# What would a Cheney Presidency be like? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [January 22, 2005, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-a-cheney-presidency-be-like/286012 "2005-01-22T01:09:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2005, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-a-cheney-presidency-be-like/286012/21 "2005-01-22T17:43:31Z")
> [@Demorian](#): > > But on the other hand, I think Cheney would be a more “dangerous” man than Bush is. Why? ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2005, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-a-cheney-presidency-be-like/286012/22 "2005-01-22T23:20:03Z")
“What would a Cheney Presidency be like?” It’d be like our current one, without the thin veneer of “charm” George brings to the table. ---
**Author:** ![jshore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5e925/32.png) [@jshore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jshore)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2005, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-a-cheney-presidency-be-like/286012/23 "2005-01-23T03:42:35Z")
> [@Age Quod Agis](#): > > This also suggests that Cheney might not place as high a priority on environmental regulation as the Bush. What a scary thought! Actually, I’d put it another way: Cheney was place an even higher priority on dismantling environmental regulations than Bush has. My guess is that Cheney has largely been controlling the Bush Administration’s environmental policies, which is indeed a good part of the reason why they are so atrocious. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2005, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-a-cheney-presidency-be-like/286012/24 "2005-01-23T05:36:01Z")
I’ll make sure to bookmark this thread for when Cheney is elected President in four years, see how the prediction go. Medical science can do wonders and the Bush team’s job won’t be done by the end of GBII. Jeb for VP, he’ll deliver Florida. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2005, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-a-cheney-presidency-be-like/286012/25 "2005-01-23T05:47:25Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > I’ll make sure to bookmark this thread for when Cheney is elected President in four years, see how the prediction go. One is pleased to jest, of course? ---
**Author:** ![hlanelee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3bc359/32.png) [@hlanelee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hlanelee)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2005, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-a-cheney-presidency-be-like/286012/26 "2005-01-23T12:59:15Z")
Haliburton would certainly do real well. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2005, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-a-cheney-presidency-be-like/286012/27 "2005-01-23T13:04:20Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Brief. Yes. His heart condition would kill him in a week. He shouldn’t even be VP, IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2005, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-a-cheney-presidency-be-like/286012/28 "2005-01-23T13:14:33Z")
I suspect Cheney’s approval rating would fall (following the initial upward sympathy blip, depending on the nature of his ascension). Note that Cheney tends to stay below the radar (to the point where the press have on some occasions wondered what happened to him). He’s too acerbic for a front-line public role. This might be mitigated somewhat by appointing a suitably popular VP. Condoleeza Rice might be a bold choice; while she’s not the best at off-the-cuff speaking, merely having a black woman as VP would be sufficient to draw attention away from the President for a while. Policy-wise, I don’t see a huge difference in substance, but perhaps a more direct, hard-sell approach to putting them forward. And, on the tangent already drawn, I don’t see Cheney running for President in 2008 – he’s relatively old, and his health is already precarious. I predict he’ll go back to Halliburton and his other board jobs to reap the financial rewards of his work in the current administration, and Jeb will run for President. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2005, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-a-cheney-presidency-be-like/286012/29 "2005-01-23T15:18:30Z")
> [@Malodorous](#): > > Cheney voted against making MLK day a holiday while he was in the house. Since when can Presidents retrocatively veto legislation? I agree that a Cheney presidency would be pretty much the same as a Bush presidency. They just don’t seem to disagree on much. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2005, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-a-cheney-presidency-be-like/286012/30 "2005-01-23T16:54:26Z")
Yeah I was kidding **BrainGlutton** , didn’t include a smiley because it was more a “boo” type joke than “ha ha”. 🙂 Cheney seems to seriously not want to try for his own run which leads to the big question: who ARE the Republicans going to run. I’m sure Cheney will have a big say in it. Kind of a drag for them that they need a completely new slate. Someone who has a clue about the Republican back halls of power should start a thread. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2005, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-a-cheney-presidency-be-like/286012/31 "2005-01-23T17:54:16Z")
> [@Bosda Di'Chi of Tricor](#): > > Yes. His heart condition would kill him in a week. > > He shouldn’t even be VP, IMHO. He had the same condition in 2000, didn’t he? I often wonder why he **is** VP. What were they thinking? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2005, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-a-cheney-presidency-be-like/286012/32 "2005-01-23T18:02:12Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I predict he’ll go back to Halliburton and his other board jobs to reap the financial rewards of his work in the current administration, and Jeb will run for President. Jeb has publicly announced he won’t run in 2008. [http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=173616&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312](http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=173616&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312) Maybe Giuliani or Pataki would go for it. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2005, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-a-cheney-presidency-be-like/286012/33 "2005-01-23T18:03:26Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > He had the same condition in 2000, didn’t he? I often wonder why he **is** VP. What were they thinking? Thinking…iiiiiisn’t this Administration’s strong point. ---
**Author:** ![Fritz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c57346/32.png) [@Fritz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fritz)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2005, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-a-cheney-presidency-be-like/286012/34 "2005-01-23T18:27:39Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > ^^^ _urinates all over self_ …30 minutes later and I’m still chuckling over this post… ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2005, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-a-cheney-presidency-be-like/286012/35 "2005-01-23T20:12:56Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Jeb has publicly announced he won’t run in 2008. I’ll believe it when I don’t see it. If he doesn’t go in 2008 he needs to pray for a democratic win or wait until 2016 because if the Republican nominee takes the prize Jeb won’t get a chance to run in 2012. I figure these guys (at a minimum) will throw their hats into the ring: Guiliani McCain (age be damned) Frist Racicot might make a try. Gingrich says he might but I think he’s just trying to sell some books. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2005, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-a-cheney-presidency-be-like/286012/36 "2005-01-23T21:31:48Z")
> [@Jonathan Chance](#): > > Guiliani > McCain (age be damned) > Frist > > . Frist is iffy. He’s one of my Senators ( :smack: ) and he has personal troubles. His wife’s very ill, last I heard, & he’s making noises like he might want out of the Great Game altogether. As rumored here in Dogpatch, that is. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2005, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-a-cheney-presidency-be-like/286012/37 "2005-01-23T22:00:43Z")
> [@Bosda Di'Chi of Tricor](#): > > Frist is iffy. > > He’s one of my Senators . . . And your other would be Jack S. Phogbound? 🙂 [http://www.lil-abner.com/other.html](http://www.lil-abner.com/other.html) ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2005, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-a-cheney-presidency-be-like/286012/38 "2005-01-23T22:03:49Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > And your other would be Jack S. Phogbound? 🙂 > > [http://www.lil-abner.com/other.html](http://www.lil-abner.com/other.html) > [@](#): > > Senator Phogbound:Pot-bellied Jack S. Phogbound was satirist Al Capp’s skewed archetype of a filibustering southern politician. Senator Phogbound was a corrupt, conspiratorial blowhard, who often wore a coonskin cap and carried a ramrod rifle to show his constituents he remained a trustworthy good ol’ boy. Phogbound seemed to spend a disproportionate amount of his time campaigning or passing through Dogpatch, which made sense from a plot standpoint, but where, it can be assumed, no one ever voted. Well, the pic don’t _look like_ Frist, but it surely do _sound like_ Frist! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2005, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-a-cheney-presidency-be-like/286012/39 "2005-01-23T23:05:53Z")
**What would a Cheney Presidency be like?** I think it would be like what the man said about a bombing run: long stretches of boredom punctuated by moments of stark terror. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-a-cheney-presidency-be-like/286012.md?page=1)