What would *actually* happen if you hooked someone up to a coffee IV?

Not sure! My short and snappy barista quip for this has always been: “But then you don’t get to taste it!” Continue. : ) This thread is interesting.

An espresso would be interesting, I guess. Café de olla, too much of a good thing. Starbucks’ stuff does not count as coffee, does it?

While they very well may recommend that, in my all too frequent and long hospital stays, I haven’t heard anyone suggest that I not order three, regular not decaf, 8oz cups of it with every meal (PO, not IV of course!).

Well, yeah. But you won’t need coffee, either.

Nobody seems to have mentioned sterility. That coffee had better be sterile or there’s a good chance none of the other stuff will matter.

Though, like

something obvious enough as to really assume is given.

Most IV line sets have a 0.2 micron filter (or 1.2 micron filter for TPN) before that in them, so ether of those should handle any sludge in the coffee. No idea how long it might take to plug the filter and stop flow. French press would probably be near-instant stoppage, but drip with doubled-up paper filters might run for a good while.

Anyone got access to some IV sets and an infusion pump? We need real data! :grinning:

I volunteer! I VOLUNTEER AS TRIBUTE!

Yeah…government recommendations tend to be super-conservative.

FWIW you drank about 72 oz of coffee in a day (say 12 hour period or about 6 oz/hr on average). This student drank 256 oz in a few hours and it totally wrecked his kidneys.

Can someone here give us a second opinion on this? I always thought a “typical” cup of coffee had approx. 200mg caffeine. The standard caffeine tablets that you can get at any drugstore are 200mg, which is supposed to be roughly what one cup of coffee would have.

Yes, I’m reading the label on my bottle right now. Tablets are 200 mg. Package states:

So one could take at least 4 tablets × 200mg in one day, or at least 800mg.

I am flabbergasted Can this account really be true?

I mean, I’ve learned a lot about medication errors, and I’ve even witnessed a couple, but what the heck? How in the name of Hippocrates can this have happened? This isn’t like inadvertently putting diesel in your gas tank because you didn’t notice the difference in the nozzles. This is more like pouring windshield washer fluid into the tank.

It’s hard for me to envision even an NG being somehow hooked to an IV. And why would coffee with milk be given NG anyway?

Can anyone who’s better informed than I explain this more clearly?

I found this:

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration considers 400 milligrams (about 4 cups brewed coffee) a safe amount of caffeine for healthy adults to consume daily. SOURCE

And…

How much is too much?

Up to 400 milligrams (mg) of caffeine a day appears to be safe for most healthy adults. That’s roughly the amount of caffeine in four cups of brewed coffee, 10 cans of cola or two “energy shot” drinks. Keep in mind that the actual caffeine content in beverages varies widely, especially among energy drinks. SOURCE

And…

For healthy adults, the FDA has cited 400 milligrams a day—that’s about four or five cups of coffee—as an amount not generally associated with dangerous, negative effects. However, there is wide variation in both how sensitive people are to the effects of caffeine and how fast they metabolize it (break it down). SOURCE

And…

  • Healthy adults shouldn’t consume more than 400 milligrams (mg) of caffeine per day. That’s equal to about four 8-ounce cups of brewed coffee or 10 cans of cola. SOURCE

“That’s just what they want you to believe”

Gaaaah! What to believe? What to believe? So the instructions on my caffeine bottle is just a conspiracy to get us to buy and chug more caffeine. All the brands and no-name generics I’ve looked at, say the same thing. (It’s the same thing I remember seeing on a caffeine bottle 40-some years ago.) It’s a conspiracy! I can believe that.

I wonder if the caffeine bottle is only meant for very short term use (as in, I need to stay awake tonight to study or drive) and not meant as a daily routine.

Whereas the 400mg is considered daily intake.

I dunno…WAG on my part.

It doesn’t say anything like that, but I suspect it’s meant. I’ve seen it suggested elsewhere that caffeine tablets shoudn’t be used regularly. (As for me, I use caffeine infrequently, but always in tablet form when I do. My usual dose is 100 mg (1/2 tab) once a day, if at all. I don’t like coffee, and if I had to get my fix that way, I would prefer to take it IV. So this thread is of interest to me.)

Speaking of caffeine, what are you doing up at this hour? :slight_smile:

Oh c’mon now - it’s for science!

I made the mistake of falling asleep watching TV after dinner and got several hours in. Ah well.

I personally hate coffee too. If I need a jolt to keep me awake I get one of those little bottles of energy drink. I don’t like how they make me feel but they work. I use them very rarely though (I do not generally have cause to need that alertness jolt these days).