# What would an American "civil war" look like?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-an-american-civil-war-look-like/817213>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [July 3, 2018, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-an-american-civil-war-look-like/817213 "2018-07-03T03:28:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-an-american-civil-war-look-like/817213/181 "2018-07-11T16:58:51Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Who is the other side going to be fighting for - Bernie Sanders?

They’ll be fighting for everyone else. For the principle of democracy. Might be hard for a conservative to imagine, but not everybody wants a dictatorial strongman in charge of the government. And here’s where you try to paint Obama as a dictator and we all laugh.

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-an-american-civil-war-look-like/817213/182 "2018-07-11T19:53:33Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> Probably the Constitution, civil rights, and science.

ha ha ha…oh, my…ha ha ha

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-an-american-civil-war-look-like/817213/183 "2018-07-11T19:54:56Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> ha ha ha…oh, my…ha ha ha

Not things you would fight for, I take it?

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-an-american-civil-war-look-like/817213/184 "2018-07-11T20:15:03Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Who is the other side going to be fighting for - Bernie Sanders?
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

They’d be fighting for the ideals of Chairman Mao and Stalin.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-an-american-civil-war-look-like/817213/185 "2018-07-11T20:22:07Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> They’d be fighting for the ideals of Chairman Mao and Stalin.

When you presume to give the other side’s arguments for them unasked, do you use a different voice-maybe make it high pitched and nasally, or perhaps Mortimer Snerd-like?  
Also, when you do this, do you ever find anyone on the other side actually agreeing with what you said?

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-an-american-civil-war-look-like/817213/186 "2018-07-11T20:27:52Z")

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I thought we were going to fight because we are raged-fueled hateholes or something. And if we’re not, man, am **I** on the wrong team! 😛

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-an-american-civil-war-look-like/817213/187 "2018-07-11T20:39:45Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> When you presume to give the other side’s arguments for them unasked, do you use a different voice-maybe make it high pitched and nasally, or perhaps Mortimer Snerd-like?  
> Also, when you do this, do you ever find anyone on the other side actually agreeing with what you said?

That’s rich coming from one of the hive who constantly are telling people what they think and what they mean when they type. Let’s try for a _ **little** _ less irony.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-an-american-civil-war-look-like/817213/188 "2018-07-11T20:46:38Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> That’s rich coming from one of the hive who constantly are telling people what they think and what they mean when they type. Let’s try for a _ **little** _ less irony.

And a lot less handwaving and "Look! Over there!"ing.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2018, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-an-american-civil-war-look-like/817213/189 "2018-07-11T20:58:20Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> And a lot less handwaving and "Look! Over there!"ing.

It’s perfectly legit to point out the double standard. The sheer weight of the hive makes it somewhat pointless but it’s helpful to point out hypocrisy.

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2018, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-an-american-civil-war-look-like/817213/190 "2018-07-13T15:41:52Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> They’d be fighting for the ideals of Chairman Mao and Stalin.

Sorry, you’ve already foreclosed the red-scare schtick by aligning the… um… Red States with Russia.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2018, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-an-american-civil-war-look-like/817213/191 "2018-07-13T16:41:19Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Who is the other side going to be fighting for - Bernie Sanders?
> 
> Regards,  
> Shodan

The kids in the camps, the Muslims antagonized by Nazis, the women who want to terminate their pregnancies even though it’ll make the right sad, the black people who haven’t been shot by cops yet, the gay people your kind want to prevent from having families, the hispanics your kind insults while depending on them to do the jobs you won’t do, the DACA program participants and the naturalized citizens your government has most recently targeted.

So far.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2018, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-an-american-civil-war-look-like/817213/192 "2018-07-13T17:41:29Z")

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> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#):
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> Sorry, you’ve already foreclosed the red-scare schtick by aligning the… um… Red States with Russia.

Modern Russia is not a stereotypical communist nation.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2018, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-an-american-civil-war-look-like/817213/193 "2018-07-13T17:42:42Z")

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So it’s an atypical communist nation?

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2018, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-an-american-civil-war-look-like/817213/194 "2018-07-13T18:07:35Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Modern Russia is not a stereotypical communist nation.

OK, my bad, your Red states are not going to be stereotypical communist states, they’ll be some form of communism that’s preferable to Maoism or Stalinism.

I mean, what now?

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2018, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-an-american-civil-war-look-like/817213/195 "2018-07-13T18:35:32Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> So it’s an atypical communist nation?

“Godless atypical commie bastards” does not run trippingly on the tongue.

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