What would an American "civil war" look like?

Do you think that urbanites are incapable of setting food outside the urban centers? The dirt is not politically “on your side,” nor are the resources under it. It’s not enough for the land to be bigger; your men have to be enough better to defend the land.

Again, cities are not homogeneous. I doubt the left could even deal with factional urban warfare much less push into and hold the countryside long enough to extract wealth. Plus the reds would have Russian help and much of the military is from the South.

Congratulations on getting Octopus to admit to Russian meddling on the side of the Right. Well played, foolsguinea!

Like my acknowledgement of the $50k or so of hacking the Russians did means anything. What’s sad is the $1 billion that Clinton raised and all the free press she received couldn’t overcome that major obstacle.

I didn’t make the case that cities are better, just that contrary to the conservative imagination, the hinterlands are just as screwed for food and supplies as anyone else.

But cities at least have seaports and airports and human labor. The countryside will ravage all the game animals for about a month and then collapse while they’re trying to remember how actual non-factory farms work. For every one actual country-boy survivor, there are 50 Wal-Mart greeters.

What does the dollar cost of Russian election meddling have to do with anything? The 9/11 attacks only cost Bin Laden & Co. maybe half-a-million bucks; I guess that means they weren’t that big of a deal, huh?

Oh God, you think they love you and that’s just so freaking adorable. No I’m sorry, the “reds” are just Russian tools. Useful idiots, I think someone said. After the US collapses they’ll be left to twist in the wind like every other instrumental third-world shithole.

Lol, that’s some pretty weak sauce, guy. In a thread about a hypothetical civil war you still have little more to say than “B-b-b-but, Obummer! B-b-Hillary! Th-th-th-thpeecheth!”

(Obviously, in the real world, Russia would sell arms to both sides.)

Lol. Well when the shooting starts I guess we’ll see.

Well, unlike 9/11 a few hacked emails aren’t a big deal. It does illustrate that IT security is somewhat important.

Nice snipping. You conveniently ignore the part where the majority of US military are not leftists.

… same could be said about the FBI, but God knows your side argues differently.

Defining what “won” means is problematic but …

Khmer Rouge?

Chinese Communist Revolution?

How does that relate to your hope that Russia is going to help out the red (I assume you mean Republican) states? Do you seriously believe that’s true? What’s the inconvenient pertinent bit that I left out?

I mean, wow. Russia is going to help the red states. That’s where things are now.

Well, as he admitted, Russian interference in American politics has benefited his side greatly, so why wouldn’t they want continued Russian support of the modern American connedservative movement?

The majority aren’t terribly partisan either. Nearly half are minorities. And the military is a machine that depends heavily on specialized skills. What happens when you remove half the parts of your car at random? Do you get a car that goes half as fast?

There is a big gulf between “not leftists” and “people who would be willing to fight for some dictatorial regime in an American Civil War.” I think the vast majority of the military would fight to preserve the Constitution and the established political order that has been cumulatively built up over the past 200-odd years.

Of course, even just a few well-trained military officers and NCOs in various specialties, on the other side, could cause a tremendous amount of trouble.

And, remember, the Commander-in-Chief of the “red-hats” would be Donald J Trump. And they would be fighting for the right to be ruled by Donald J Trump. When you’re lying awake the night before the big battle, with random thoughts of what might lie ahead coursing through your brain, that’s gotta put a damper on things.

Who is the other side going to be fighting for - Bernie Sanders?

Regards,
Shodan

No, they’d be fighting for Hillary. It’s her turn.

Probably the Constitution, civil rights, and science.