We’re not talking about leaning on a foreign government to ferret out corruption when we are giving them billions of dollars in aid. We are talking about corruptly extorting a private university to give hundreds of thousands of dollars in benefits to an unqualified private student because his father abused the powers of his office to gain that admission.
See how special pleadings work?
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Do you believe that this is the process for appointments to boards of directors?
There’s no evidence of such a favor. I have no doubt that Hunter got his job because of his last name, but no evidence has presented that Joe Biden helped his son get this job. It’s not Joe’s fault that his son has his name. And yes, this is a corrupt practice, but barring evidence that Joe stepped in to get his son this job, the corruption lies with Hunter and Burisma (the latter of which the Obama administration wanted investigated by Ukraine due to their corruption), not with Joe Biden.
I’m all for impeaching Hunter Biden and the board of Burisma, should they be elected President. But I’m not sure how this is a defense of Trump’s obvious crimes.
This is just colossally and obviously false. The Trump administration’s own records and even own personnel speak of a quid-pro-quo, investigation-for-congressionally-approved-aid-and-visits scheme that was directed and personally benefiting Trump rather than any legitimate US interests.
It’s just sad that you’re so okay with this. It’s not okay. Trump really is worse than past presidents. He’s not doing the same things, he’s doing worse things, and he’s doing worse things out in the open. Not everything is the same, and not everyone is the same. Some people are actually worse, and have actually done worse things, and Trump is one of those people, by the words and records of his own administration.
“As I said on the phone, I think it’s crazy to withhold security assistance for help with a political campaign.” - Bill Taylor text to Gordon Sondland (September 9, 2019)
Where’s the Joe Biden version of anything like that?
When “people in the administration” like Bill Taylor say things, that is not evidence; that is simply their opinion. And many of these people are Never Trumpers.
But put that aside. We don’t allow opinion evidence in criminal or civil trials because it is unreliable and ultimately meaningless. The only people’s opinions who count are the jurors, in this case the senators.
If my neighbor is charged with murder, I can testify that I saw him come home at 2:30 a.m., dump a bag of trash in the bin, and sneak around the back of his house. What I cannot testify to is that “I think he must have just murdered someone.” And why is that? Because I cannot substitute myself for the jury. I can tell them the who, what, where, and when, but my opinion does not mean anything.
So it really doesn’t matter if you can pick out a few people who think they believe that they know what Trump was reaaaally doing. What matters is hard evidence which 100 senators will determine the meaning of.
And there is no hard evidence. Just inferences.
Here on earth, there’s a difference between a powerful person calling up someone and arm twisting them to do somethiing nice for their son, and people lining up to do favors for those connected to powerful people. That’s the difference between privilege and corruption.
This sentence is a powerful example of Trump derangement syndrome. Baseless accusations against unnamed people who don’t like the corrupt President, a total disconnection from reality, conspiracy theories and threats, and probably some wild gesticulating too (but I can’t prove that).\
More of the same. I guess the definition of “Never Trumper” includes a non-partisan person with personal and professional integrity. Trump can’t stand that shit.
Mulvaney is not a “Never Trumper”. Neither was the official White House transcript of the call.
Exactly – that’s why it’s important they call witnesses who were involved (Bolton, Pompeo, Barr, Mulvaney, and others), but also heed the White House’s own record of the call, which clearly lays out Trump’s intentions to bribe/extort Ukraine for his own personal political gain.
There’s a mountain of hard evidence, including the words and records of the administration. You just appear to be unable, or uninterested, in seeing it.
I believe that’s called, ‘changing the subject’. Which is a whole other thing.
So testimony that implicates Trump is only acceptable from pro-Trumpers, but we know Bill Taylor is a never Trumper because his testimony implicates Trump.
That’s some catch that catch 22.
Never Trumpers who donated a million dollars to the Trump inaugural committee (which then made its way into Trump’s personal wallet)?
You must have a pretty loose definition of Never Trumper. :rolleyes:
Dead issue. Lindsay Graham will not support a Hunter Biden subpoena:
Duplicate.
Called it.
I thought W got in on a rowing scholarship.
George W. Bush went to Yale, not Harvard, for his undergraduate degree (as did George H.W. Bush and Prescott Bush, and certainly that family history almost guaranteed him a place at Yale). As far as I know, there was no rowing scholarship involved, and I don’t think Yale gives athetic scholarships anyway.
He completed an MBA degree at Harvard. Certainly the Bush name helped him with admissions, but a Yale degree would have helped, too (even one with a lackluster GPA). In any event, Harvard likes to admit the children of world leaders – keeps Harvard in the middle of world affairs.
Joe Biden is very paternalistic and will get wound up seeing his son get besmirched in someone else’s trial.
In criminal or civil trials; we don’t allow the defendant to coordinate with the jurors, we don’t tell the judge how the proceedings will occur, we don’t let the jurors vote on evidence or witnesses, we don’t allow the jurors to discuss the case with the media or other jurors. Why should we assume their rules of evidence?
Yale and the rest of the Ivy League schools give no athletic scholarships. However, they do let at least certain coaches give athletic endorsements which do not give automatic admission. It was revealed in the recent nationwide admission scandal that the women’s soccer coach (who left Yale before the scandal broke) probably gave two fraudulent endorsements, and one of the two students was admitted before having the admission rescinded after the scandal broke.
I do not know if they gave athletic scholarships in the past when any Bush attended.