# What would happen if Kim Jong Un Kidnapped Trump? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 10, 2018, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-if-kim-jong-un-kidnapped-trump/810354 "2018-03-10T19:56:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2018, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-if-kim-jong-un-kidnapped-trump/810354/21 "2018-03-11T00:25:18Z")
Could Trump go through the same montage Pierce Brosnan does at the start of _Die Another Day_? I hear scorpion bites are good for healing bone spurs. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2018, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-if-kim-jong-un-kidnapped-trump/810354/22 "2018-03-11T00:26:25Z")
> [@voltaire](#): > > An _epic_ party, followed by an epic battle. Oh, ok! We can do the battle bit first, I guess… [Kind of like this one?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxBA-cQRbDo) [except that BOTH principals would end up limbless, and in total denial…] ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2018, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-if-kim-jong-un-kidnapped-trump/810354/23 "2018-03-11T00:28:12Z")
> [@DinoR](#): > > This isn’t really the situation where private citizens, without diplomatic protections, are held under trumped up charges. I see what you did there. ---
**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2018, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-if-kim-jong-un-kidnapped-trump/810354/24 "2018-03-11T00:51:17Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > I see what you did there. [perfectlyinnocentvoice] Me?!? [/PIV] 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2018, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-if-kim-jong-un-kidnapped-trump/810354/25 "2018-03-11T01:13:33Z")
I don’t think they’ll kidnap him, though I do think that the likelihood of it is high enough that the Secret Service will make sure that the meeting happens in the DMZ or somewhere that both sides can keep a lock on. Overall, it’s going to be a rather strange event. Fundamentally, NK already has everything they could ever want (so far as the leadership is concerned). They have to come up with a wishlist of stuff to ask for despite that, figuring that Trump is stupid enough to give it to them just so that he can claim to have negotiated something. It’ll be interesting to hear what all they will ask for. I assume things that will help them to continue ramping up their criminal enterprises. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2018, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-if-kim-jong-un-kidnapped-trump/810354/26 "2018-03-11T01:14:11Z")
I’m not seeing a debate, here. To the Pit with ye! ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2018, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-if-kim-jong-un-kidnapped-trump/810354/27 "2018-03-11T01:32:45Z")
All Kim has to do is praise Trump, call him an inspiration, praise his tariff ideas and show loyalty. Sanctions? What sanctions? That’ll be enough for Trump to lift them. Without notifying anyone first, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2018, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-if-kim-jong-un-kidnapped-trump/810354/28 "2018-03-11T01:51:41Z")
I don’t think they’ll kidnap him. I think Kim will make Trump the centerpiece of one of those big NK military parades, and the photos will circulate of him and Kim standing together on a balcony watching. Maybe Kim will have a big-ass bronze statue of him and Trump standing together made to commemorate the occasion. Maybe they’ll talk about some sort of dumb-ass trade deal that will violate all sorts of treaties and international laws. Of course, no one will document the conversation and no matter what happens, Trump will tell the world that Kim acquiescenced to his every demand and asked for nothing in return. And Trump will genuinely believe it. And Kim will disagree and Trump will start tweeting. Or, maybe it will work. Maybe this is the silver lining to having a crazy person as president. Maybe Kim believes Trump will actually nuke them or at least bomb the crap out of them. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2018, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-if-kim-jong-un-kidnapped-trump/810354/29 "2018-03-11T01:58:07Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > War would be the result, and we’re all better off if every country clearly understands that. Which side would the USA be on in the war to return Trump? ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2018, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-if-kim-jong-un-kidnapped-trump/810354/30 "2018-03-11T02:01:30Z")
> [@WillReadmore](#): > > It won’t happen. > > Un wants to be a world leader. > > He now has rockets that could deliver a nuke to the US and others. > > Next step: photos with Trump and Un discussing world order. > > Trump is handing him the biggest gift he could ask for right now. And, it happened by having the SK big wigs(!) announce what the US president was going to do(!) at night(!) from the front lawn(!) without his administration even knowing it was going to happen and denying it right up until in happened!! > Why would Un screw THAT up? > > From his perspective, this is just too beautiful for words. You used to be **Okrahoma** , right? ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2018, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-if-kim-jong-un-kidnapped-trump/810354/31 "2018-03-11T02:10:46Z")
I guess that would give Un a leg up on the Nobel Peace Prize. ---
**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2018, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-if-kim-jong-un-kidnapped-trump/810354/32 "2018-03-11T02:26:46Z")
> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#): > > The Dear Leader has been known to not let his guests leave when they want to. Let’s say during this future meeting between Kimmy Boy and Trump that’s being set up, the North Koreans manage to spirit Trump away somewhere. Let’s say Kim Jong Un is crazy enough to believe this will prove his regime’s worth to the world, and demand a huge ransom, ala that whole King Richard the Lionheart fiasco almost a thousand years ago. Kim hopes the mighty US will grovel before him. Hire a couple of [Bad Dudes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bad_Dudes_Vs._DragonNinja) called Blade and Striker, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2018, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-if-kim-jong-un-kidnapped-trump/810354/33 "2018-03-11T02:29:31Z")
Ryan: the President was an American hero, and we thank him for his sacrifice N Korea: so you don’t want him back McConnell: he was a man among men N Korea: wait fine we’ll drop our demands just take him back Pence: he is in God’s hands now > ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2018, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-if-kim-jong-un-kidnapped-trump/810354/34 "2018-03-11T02:36:48Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > I don’t think they’ll kidnap him, though I do think that the likelihood of it is high enough that the Secret Service will make sure that the meeting happens in the DMZ or somewhere that both sides can keep a lock on. Has there been any word on meeting location? This can’t happen in Korea, surely? Nobody is going anywhere near N Korea, and I don’t think Kim is going south. China can’t work for a 2-way, it undermines them. The only place I can think of is Japan. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2018, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-if-kim-jong-un-kidnapped-trump/810354/35 "2018-03-11T02:53:32Z")
Kim has never left North Korea since he took power. I seriously doubt he will start now. ---
**Author:** ![Dobbs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Dobbs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dobbs)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2018, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-if-kim-jong-un-kidnapped-trump/810354/36 "2018-03-11T03:02:00Z")
Well, should Rocket Man attempt to move Orange Thinskin somewhere unscheduled, a whole lot of young men in business suits will register their objections using their .357 and 9mm disapproval devices. Things would get loud. Of course, it won’t happen. If the meeting takes place, it won’t be in North (or South) Korea. I suspect **Riemann** is correct in picking Japan. Also, all Kim cares about is that the meeting take place. A face to face meeting with the POTUS (any POTUS) is something the Kim family has wanted for 3 generations. I suspect it won’t be more than a handshake and (most importantly to Kim) a few dozen photos. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2018, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-if-kim-jong-un-kidnapped-trump/810354/37 "2018-03-11T03:16:21Z")
So, what would happen if [somebody] were to assassinate Kim? The biggest risk would be a failed attempt, but is there really any downside to killing him? ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2018, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-if-kim-jong-un-kidnapped-trump/810354/38 "2018-03-11T03:26:33Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > So, what would happen if [somebody] were to assassinate Kim? The biggest risk would be a failed attempt, but is there really any downside to killing him? It depends a bit on who does it and whether they get caught, but there’s a chance it results in at least the shelling / nuking of Seoul, so yeah, there’s a downside. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2018, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-if-kim-jong-un-kidnapped-trump/810354/39 "2018-03-11T03:43:43Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Much as I am not a fan of the current resident of the White House, he’s still our president, and I would not take too kindly to someone kidnapping our president. > > No matter how I feel about the person, that sets a terrible precedent for the office. > > I would support whatever means are necessary to retrieve him, and should harm befall him, then retaliation (of a non-nuclear form) would be very appropriate. > > Anyway, I am sure that Kim knows this, and so this is not a scenario that is likely to be entertained. Pretty much word for word what I was thinking. We can’t allow other countries to kidnap our President, even if he is a really bad President. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2018, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-if-kim-jong-un-kidnapped-trump/810354/40 "2018-03-11T04:01:04Z")
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