# What would happen if Kim Jong Un Kidnapped Trump? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 10, 2018, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-if-kim-jong-un-kidnapped-trump/810354 "2018-03-10T19:56:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-if-kim-jong-un-kidnapped-trump/810354/81 "2018-03-12T14:45:00Z")
Okay, so Bigfoot kidnaps Trump… (…do we let Eric Prince or Eric Trump lead the reconnaissance party into the wilds of Sasquatchewan?) ---
**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-if-kim-jong-un-kidnapped-trump/810354/82 "2018-03-12T14:56:32Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > Has there been any word on meeting location? This can’t happen in Korea, surely? Nobody is going anywhere near N Korea, and I don’t think Kim is going south. China can’t work for a 2-way, it undermines them. The only place I can think of is Japan. Japan is the worst possible place. Japan is highly xenophobic to begin with, and they occupied Korea until WWII. [Abductions of Japanese citizens](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korean_abductions_of_Japanese_citizens) by North Korea is a highly sensitive political issue in Japan. North Korean missiles have literally been flying over Japan for 2 decades now. And unlike South Korea, Japan shares very little cultural heritage with North Korea. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-if-kim-jong-un-kidnapped-trump/810354/83 "2018-03-12T15:11:36Z")
> [@digs](#): > > Okay, so Bigfoot kidnaps Trump… > > (…do we let Eric Prince or Eric Trump lead the reconnaissance party into the wilds of Sasquatchewan?) First we slather Ivanka in steak sauce… ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-if-kim-jong-un-kidnapped-trump/810354/84 "2018-03-12T15:25:15Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > First we slather Ivanka in steak sauce… Have you been reading my dream journal again? ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-if-kim-jong-un-kidnapped-trump/810354/85 "2018-03-12T15:40:23Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Maybe Trump will smuggle in a handgun and just shoot Kim. Who’s going to frisk the President? After a year of Hair Hitler, it’s pretty clear he can’t hit a damn thing he aims at. If he has a gun, and he aims at Kim, he’ll miss. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-if-kim-jong-un-kidnapped-trump/810354/86 "2018-03-12T15:47:37Z")
That’s why he’d charge into the school unarmed. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-if-kim-jong-un-kidnapped-trump/810354/87 "2018-03-12T17:06:12Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > Trump may be a \ \ \ but he’s an American \ \ \. This. Same as Bowe Bergdahl, he’s one of ours, and we will be the ones to decide what to do with him under the laws of the United States. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-if-kim-jong-un-kidnapped-trump/810354/88 "2018-03-12T17:23:51Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > Trump may be a \ \ \ but he’s an American \ \ \. [Kurt Russell in “Tango & Cash”] You wanna cut my throat? Go ahead! You wanna cut my fucking head off and use it for a fucking basketball? You could bowl with the motherfucker for all I care! Just don’t let HIM do it! I don’t want to be killed by this Limey, immigrant jerkoff! I want to be killed by an American jerkoff! [/Kurt Russell in “Tango & Cash”] ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-if-kim-jong-un-kidnapped-trump/810354/89 "2018-03-12T17:37:19Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > “The U.S. announced today a total lifting of all trade embargoes on North Korea. These embargoes will be instantly reinstated should North Korea give Trump back.” I like this approach. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-if-kim-jong-un-kidnapped-trump/810354/90 "2018-03-12T17:42:09Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > We already know Kim is leagues smarter than trump. … . That there is a pretty low bar, isn’t it??? My George Foreman grill is smarter than Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-if-kim-jong-un-kidnapped-trump/810354/91 "2018-03-12T17:57:58Z")
> [@Icarus](#): > > The notion of Kim kidnapping Trump is ludicrous. He would have no interest in doing anything of the sort. > > Kim’s motivation is to be taken seriously on the world stage, to get a seat at the table, so to speak. By Trump agreeing to meet, he is getting just that. > > He’s not a cartoon Dr. Evil, in spite of what some media would like everyone to believe. (Yes, he’s a dictator, and dictators are bad news by definition. But he’s not a Marvel comic villain.) I disagree. If North Korea kidnaps ‘the most powerful man in the world’ (the US president is in title that person, but I don’t know if I agree. Putin or Xi Jinping is arguably more powerful) and the world does nothing, that shows the world how much power North Korea has. North Korea wants to be taken seriously as a global power among other things. Letting the world know that even the president of the United States isn’t safe from their clutches would help them achieve that. They have motivation. It is no different than what Russia is doing. Russia could poison people or kill them anonymously in places like the UK, but they intentionally kill people in ways that can be traced back to Russia (Polonium or nerve gas). This is Russia’s way of saying ‘yeah we did it, what are you going to do about it? Nothing’. The killing of Kims brother with nerve gas was probably done with the same motivation. Also Trump has insulted Kim and the NK regime repeatedly. They torture your family to death for that in NK. So in a way it would be an effective intimidation tactic to their domestic population and the world. Foreign media is flooding into NK, and I’m sure lots of people there know Trump has insulted Kim and the NK regime repeatedly. If they find out Kim meets with Trump and shakes his hand after Trump insulted Kim, that may make the domestic population in NK lose some fear of the regime. To reiterate, in 1968 North Korea tried to assassinate the president of South Korea. In the 1990s Saddam Hussein tried to assassinate George HW Bush. Neither act caused major retaliation. So there is already a precedent of the world looking the other way when dictators try to kill foreign leaders ---
**Author:** ![MidgardTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df788c/32.png) [@MidgardTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MidgardTree)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-if-kim-jong-un-kidnapped-trump/810354/92 "2018-03-12T19:33:42Z")
> [@FlikTheBlue](#): > > How is it a gift? I’ve never understood the idea that negotiating with someone is somehow a gift or a concession in and of itself. A gift would be lifting sanctions or giving Kim some money or something of that sort. But just sitting down at a table to talk with someone is just an acknowledgement of the fact we aren’t unilaterally capable of solving that particular situation, not some kind of reward to that person. Kim wants to be an A-List player. Other presidents haven’t bothered with or insisted on concessions to even give him the time of day. Scoring a meeting with Trump elevates the prestige of NK in the eyes of the world (or at least their own) and boosts their status…for free! ---
**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-if-kim-jong-un-kidnapped-trump/810354/93 "2018-03-12T22:04:44Z")
Nothing much to add, except to say there seems to be a great debate in this. I couldn’t resist… ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-if-kim-jong-un-kidnapped-trump/810354/94 "2018-03-12T22:22:07Z")
> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#): > > What would happen if Kim Jong Un Kidnapped Trump? (post shortened) North Korea would be nuked into the stone age, which would probably be a step up from where they are now. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2018, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-if-kim-jong-un-kidnapped-trump/810354/95 "2018-03-12T22:35:53Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > (post shortened) > > North Korea would be nuked into the stone age, which would probably be a step up from where they are now. Oh, you’re no fun ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-if-kim-jong-un-kidnapped-trump/810354/96 "2018-03-13T02:53:33Z")
If Kim Jong Un Kidnapped Trump the two of them would try to make babies together. ---
**Author:** ![constanze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@constanze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/constanze)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-if-kim-jong-un-kidnapped-trump/810354/97 "2018-03-13T18:05:13Z")
I’m wondering if - since it’s said that London bookies let you bet on everything - it’s possible to place a bet on Kim “friendly convincing” Trump to come stay, build the first Trump Hotel in NK, Play golf, get his own Parade …? And what the Odds are? ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-if-kim-jong-un-kidnapped-trump/810354/98 "2018-03-13T20:36:13Z")
So what would the ransom be? How much would we have to pay Kim to keep him instead of sending him back? ---
**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-if-kim-jong-un-kidnapped-trump/810354/99 "2018-03-13T20:53:03Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > I’d send them a strongly worded note demanding that they take Pence also. > > But it would never work. Read O’Henry’s _Ransom of Red Chief_ to find out why. _CURSE_ you!! I was totally going to bring up the _Ransom of Red Chief_! ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-if-kim-jong-un-kidnapped-trump/810354/100 "2018-03-13T21:12:34Z")
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