# What would happen next if Trump ran, and lost in ‘24? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 10, 2022, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-next-if-trump-ran-and-lost-in-24/957519 "2022-01-10T14:54:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2022, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-next-if-trump-ran-and-lost-in-24/957519/1 "2022-01-10T14:54:33Z")
This is a question a lot of people are asking. Probably He would act _presidential_? ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2022, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-next-if-trump-ran-and-lost-in-24/957519/2 "2022-01-10T14:59:13Z")
What is the context for the question? Are you asking if the Pubs are going to riot in all of the states Trump “lost” and carry Secretaries of State’s head on pikes? Or are you asking what what will happen in the Republican Party like will the Trumpinista’s fade away? ---
**Author:** ![HeyHomie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heyhomie/32/207_2.png) [@HeyHomie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HeyHomie)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2022, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-next-if-trump-ran-and-lost-in-24/957519/3 "2022-01-10T17:01:47Z")
More of what we’re experiencing now, which is to say: tRump himself continuing to act like a rabid and caged dog, insisting to anyone who will listen that he actually won. A subset of his supporters, and his enablers of Fox News, OANN, etc., continuing to push the lie. Probably more violence like there was on January 6, although I seriously doubt the Capitol Police are ever going to be caught with their pants down like that again. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2022, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-next-if-trump-ran-and-lost-in-24/957519/4 "2022-01-10T17:18:24Z")
This thread is a better fit in P&E. I’m moving it there. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2022, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-next-if-trump-ran-and-lost-in-24/957519/5 "2022-01-10T17:27:32Z")
Hard to say, given how much things can and likely will change in the next two to three years. If the right continues its gallop off into increasingly irrational extremism, then all sorts of unpleasant things are possible. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2022, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-next-if-trump-ran-and-lost-in-24/957519/6 "2022-01-10T17:40:08Z")
> [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > This is a question a lot of people are asking. This sounds exactly like a Trump quote. I hope that’s deliberate. ---
**Author:** ![Hampshire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hampshire/32/4887_2.png) [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2022, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-next-if-trump-ran-and-lost-in-24/957519/7 "2022-01-10T17:46:19Z")
He’d rally them all together and preach “You’re not going to let them get away with this again, are you?” Idiots would do something idiotic. He’d claim no responsibility again. ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2022, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-next-if-trump-ran-and-lost-in-24/957519/8 "2022-01-10T18:21:33Z")
One thing for sure. Biden will not hesitate to send in the national guard for three hours. What will happen? Trump will continue to lie and insist he won. The Trumpublicans will back this 100% and try not to count the vote, but of course, Kamala will just go ahead with or without the Republican members. I don’t think you will see a repeat of the insurrection. More likely, riots in various state capitals over the vote certifications. Great fun all around, no? ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2022, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-next-if-trump-ran-and-lost-in-24/957519/9 "2022-01-10T19:00:25Z")
If Trump lost the election and our democracy survived any legal or extra-legal methods to overturn it, then I think he would be pretty much done as a force in the GOP. He would be griping about it to high heaven and will still have some followers possibly willing to take the law into there own hands, but I think that the rank and file GOP would start getting tired of his schtick. The reason the big lie is working so far is that he can convince people either that the election will be over turned and he will be reinstated by Liddel’s court cases, or by the Biden impeachment of 2023, or that at the very least in 2024 the GOP will be ready for the steal and take active steps to prevent it. If this fails again in 2024 then its going to be clear that Trump isn’t working and they need to try someone new. ---
**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2022, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-next-if-trump-ran-and-lost-in-24/957519/10 "2022-01-10T23:47:47Z")
We would celebrate? ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-next-if-trump-ran-and-lost-in-24/957519/11 "2022-01-11T00:37:09Z")
> [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > Probably He would act _presidential_ ? Well, there’s the one thing we know he _won’t_ do. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-next-if-trump-ran-and-lost-in-24/957519/12 "2022-01-11T02:35:40Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Hard to say, given how much things can and likely will change in the next two to three years. Hope you are correct that things will change, because, at present, Trump would win not only the electoral vote, but even the popular vote: > **[2024 General Election: Trump vs. Biden Polls | RealClearPolling](https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-biden)** > > Explore poll data on the 2024 General Election between Trump and Biden with RealClearPolling. Uncover trends and gain insight into electoral dynamics for key races and decisive outcomes. Biden and Trump are known quantities, and Biden is more unpopular than Trump. To change minds, Biden has to do stuff that will get him enormous amounts of not wholly positive attention, thereby breaking into the consciousness of low information voters. This is a high risk strategy that Trump, and Trump alone, seems to have mastered. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-next-if-trump-ran-and-lost-in-24/957519/13 "2022-01-11T02:37:15Z")
Biden has been around a long time. I think he is okay. But I hope the Dems find a more charismatic candidate for 2024 and focus pragmatically on electability. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-next-if-trump-ran-and-lost-in-24/957519/14 "2022-01-11T04:30:06Z")
> [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > But I hope the Dems find a more charismatic candidate for 2024 Do they have one of those? (Serious question) ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-next-if-trump-ran-and-lost-in-24/957519/15 "2022-01-11T08:14:14Z")
> [@digs](#): > > > [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > > > But I hope the Dems find a more charismatic candidate for 2024 > > Do they have one of those? Buttigieg? ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-next-if-trump-ran-and-lost-in-24/957519/16 "2022-01-11T13:10:07Z")
What would Donald do? Whine and cry and throw a tantrum like the entitled little bitch that he is. The MAGAbots would threaten violence but this time the National Guard would be called out in advance and nothing would really happen. Mitch McConnell will obstruct as always. ---
**Author:** ![Temporary\_Name](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@Temporary\_Name](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Temporary_Name)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-next-if-trump-ran-and-lost-in-24/957519/17 "2022-01-11T13:12:41Z")
> [@digs](#): > > > [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > > > But I hope the Dems find a more charismatic candidate for 2024 > > Do they have one of those? > > (Serious question) Good question. In my previous inquiry the board was not able to muster as many as ten candidates in total between all of us: > [@2024 Speculation (the utterly pointlessness and futility of making the effort to see beyond the horizon and view that which is beyond the curvature of the earth \[time wise\])](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/2024-speculation-the-utterly-pointlessness-and-futility-of-making-the-effort-to-see-beyond-the-horizon-and-view-that-which-is-beyond-the-curvature-of-the-earth-time-wise/955931): > > It is obviously far too early for meaningful predictions, but . . . The Republicans are going to do whatever they are going to do, does not matter! Who the GOP will run is not a consideration and neither is what GOP elected officials and operatives might be convicted of crimes by then. Nothing that happens on the right is the point nor does it have any place in this thread. The point of this thread is that by 2024 Joe is tired and wants to pass the torch. He wants to retire after supporting… ---
**Author:** ![dolphinboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dolphinboy/32/330_2.png) [@dolphinboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dolphinboy)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-next-if-trump-ran-and-lost-in-24/957519/18 "2022-01-11T19:39:14Z")
If Trump runs and loses, which I think is an unlikely scenario, that means the dems have won. Given Joe’s age and low ratings, the dems will be looking for someone to run against Joe in the primaries. Is the country ready to elect a bi-racial female president? Not for another 50 years IMO. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-next-if-trump-ran-and-lost-in-24/957519/19 "2022-01-11T19:57:35Z")
I think the bigger question would be: If Trump runs for office, going through the traditional primary process, the electoral college, etc. when he is telling us that he believes that the Democrats plus a mysterious group of Deep Staters masquerading as Republicans are in position, have the capability and the will to cheat him out of the vote - then he’s publicly admitting that he doesn’t believe that there was any cheating. He can’t run **and** continue to maintain the idea that he lost fairly. It’s like if someone asked you, “Do you want to play this game called ‘Heads I win / Tails you lose’? If you lose, I get to punch you in the balls!” Short of being a masochist, no man is going to play that game. By Trump’s argument on how he lost, that’s the only game being offered to him in the country, right now. Given that Trump’s principal argument that he wasn’t breaking the law by pressuring the election overseers to change the vote for him, is that he believed there was cheating; the only way he can seek office again without creating legal peril for himself is some form of violent coup. So if he does run for office again, a) every liberal in the land should pound on the question of why someone would run when they expect to get punched in the nards, and b) the man better hope that he can slow down the courts during the election period all the way until he attains office, because he’ll be shredding his legal defense for criminal malfeasance for the better part of a year. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-next-if-trump-ran-and-lost-in-24/957519/20 "2022-01-11T20:01:11Z")
> [@Sage\_Rat](#): > > then he’s publicly admitting that he doesn’t believe that there was any cheating. He can’t run **and** continue to maintain the idea that he lost fairly. That’s far too subtle an argument to work on anyone who might even conceivably vote for Trump, though. Pound on it all you want, but literally contradicting himself from one day to the next has simply become an accepted practice by the Republicans. Most of his supporters don’t even notice the contradiction, even when you point it out to them. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-happen-next-if-trump-ran-and-lost-in-24/957519.md?page=2)