# What would have to be on Weiners laptop to make you vote for Trump?

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [October 30, 2016, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-have-to-be-on-weiners-laptop-to-make-you-vote-for-trump/770074 "2016-10-30T00:20:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
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If there was unequivocal proof that Clinton was a robot sent here to start a nuclear war and eliminate the human race for her alien overlords.

I figure the chances of Trump eliminating the human race are probably only around ten percent, so the odds would be better.

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> [@furt](#):
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> “They both suck” =/= “There’s no difference.”
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> I pretty much always vote third-party. Doesn’t mean I think the major party types are interchangebale.

No, but if they aren’t the same, voting third party means you’ve given up your chance to ensure the worst one doesn’t get in.

And, really, that’s what democracy is. We don’t make sure the best candidate makes it. We vote to make sure the worst don’t.

It’s the worst system–except for all the other systems.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
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Some sort of proof that she’s actively trying to destroy the US. No idea what that could actually be.

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> Some sort of proof that she’s actively trying to destroy the US. No idea what that could actually be.

Yeah, I’m not really voting for personalities here, I’m voting for expected outcomes. Trump in office would be a horrifying disaster (based on his personality, true, but it’s the outcome that matters). Show me something indicating that Clinton’s presidency would be worse, and Trump gets my vote.

But it’s hard to imagine what that’d be. Anything I saw would be seen by the public, and she’d be impeached by Congress on day 1. If she were planning a military coup, Obama would have plenty of time to stop her. And if Obama can’t stop her, neither can my vote.

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**Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-have-to-be-on-weiners-laptop-to-make-you-vote-for-trump/770074/25 "2016-10-31T04:37:37Z")

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I might consider voting for bad-hair-guy, if I was on the jury.

(_depending on what is meant by “for”_)

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**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-have-to-be-on-weiners-laptop-to-make-you-vote-for-trump/770074/26 "2016-10-31T05:58:08Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> No, but if they aren’t the same, voting third party means you’ve given up your chance to ensure the worst one doesn’t get in.

Nonsense; the odds of my vote or yours determining a national election are one in a billion. You never had any such chance.

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**Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-have-to-be-on-weiners-laptop-to-make-you-vote-for-trump/770074/27 "2016-10-31T06:03:39Z")

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Just to be clear, we are talking about Weiner’s lap_top_, right? Not just his lap?

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**Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 8:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-have-to-be-on-weiners-laptop-to-make-you-vote-for-trump/770074/28 "2016-10-31T08:44:31Z")

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Not that I can vote anyway, but … a mind control virus

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Messages going back and forth that make it clear that Trump is actually fairly liberal, and is working with Clinton to shatter the GOP and purge it of its worst elements. Especially if it’s clear that Trump is willing to appear to be an ignorant, racist, monster for the rest of his life, for the greater good.

Other than that, I don’t see it.

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**Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-have-to-be-on-weiners-laptop-to-make-you-vote-for-trump/770074/30 "2016-10-31T12:06:21Z")

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There’s nothing that could realistically make me support Trump. I could be talked out of voting for Clinton but not into supporting Trump.

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A message from the aliens (somehow authenticated to be real) ordering humans to elect Trump or they will destroy the earth.

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That is a tough one…

OK if we found out that Hillary’s great great grandfather had a hand in deliberately sinking the Titanic, while her great grandfather was a Nazi sympathizer and her grandfather was on the grassy knoll in 63 **AND** footage of her dad was found sabotaging the Challenger O-Ring in 86… THEN… I would abstain.😃

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**Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-have-to-be-on-weiners-laptop-to-make-you-vote-for-trump/770074/33 "2016-10-31T13:17:13Z")

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> [@](#):
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> OK if we found out that Hillary’s great great grandfather had a hand in deliberately sinking the Titanic, while her great grandfather was a Nazi sympathizer and her grandfather was on the grassy knoll in 63 AND footage of her dad was found sabotaging the Challenger O-Ring in 86… THEN… I would abstain

Because it’s publicly embarrassing the US to other countries? I mean, why would I judge someone based on the actions of her ancestors?

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This thread seems to be a wonderful illustration of Sam Wang’s “polls don’t matter” theory. For lots of HRC supporters, there’s no wrong she could do that would make them vote for Trump. For many Trump supporters, it’s the reverse.

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Which however does not mean there’s no Republican I’d vote for instead – I could pull the lever for Jeb or Mitt no prob.

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Probably nothing. The only scenarios of wrong doing that would cause me to vote for Trump are so outlandish, that I would be more likely to believe that they were faked by the Russians and planted on Weiner’s laptop.

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**Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-have-to-be-on-weiners-laptop-to-make-you-vote-for-trump/770074/37 "2016-10-31T14:55:45Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> This thread seems to be a wonderful illustration of Sam Wang’s “polls don’t matter” theory. For lots of HRC supporters, there’s no wrong she could do that would make them vote for Trump. For many Trump supporters, it’s the reverse.

That suggests it’s mere partisanship. But it isn’t. I can imagine lots of things that would cause me to vote for Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio.

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> This thread seems to be a wonderful illustration of Sam Wang’s “polls don’t matter” theory. For lots of HRC supporters, there’s no wrong she could do that would make them vote for Trump. For many Trump supporters, it’s the reverse.

There’s no equivalency.

Clinton supporters are saying there’s nothing Clinton could imaginably do that would be as bad as the things Trump has already done.

Trump supporters are saying the things that Trump has done are not as bad as the things they imagine Clinton has done or will do.

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> There’s no equivalency.
> 
> Clinton supporters are saying there’s nothing Clinton could imaginably do that would be as bad as the things Trump has already done.
> 
> Trump supporters are saying the things that Trump has done are not as bad as the things they imagine Clinton has done or will do.

I don’t think it’s fair or accurate to call all of Clinton’s offenses imaginary. She mishandled classified information, and lied about it. For most government employees, that would lead to very serious trouble.

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What would it take for me? One million dollars in cold, hard, untraceable cash and Canadian citizenship papers. For me, my immediate family, and a few friends. Say, couple thousand or so, tops!

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