# What would Hitler think of modern-day Israel?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [October 2, 2014, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-hitler-think-of-modern-day-israel/700154 "2014-10-02T02:25:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mr.Kobayashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@Mr.Kobayashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Kobayashi)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-hitler-think-of-modern-day-israel/700154/21 "2014-10-02T23:12:26Z")

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My favourite alternate Jewish resettlement proposed was [Alaska](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slattery_Report), of all places.

He’d probably be disappointed that his Arab allies hadn’t yet destroyed them, or that the world (no doubt now dominated by Judeo-Bolshevist…what do you mean the USSR has collapsed?!) failed to respond to its creation. No need to guess though, in his [talks with the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9d/Bundesarchiv_Bild_146-1987-004-09A%2C_Amin_al_Husseini_und_Adolf_Hitler.jpg) [told him](https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/mufti2.html);

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> the Fuhrer would on his own give the Arab world the assurance that its hour of liberation had arrived. Germany’s objective would then be solely the destruction of the Jewish element residing in the Arab sphere under the protection of British power. In that hour the Mufti would be the most authoritative spokesman for the Arab world. It would then be his task to set off the Arab operations which he had secretly prepared. When that time had come. Germany could also he indifferent to French reaction to such a declaration.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Kobayashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@Mr.Kobayashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Kobayashi)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-hitler-think-of-modern-day-israel/700154/22 "2014-10-02T23:22:36Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> No, like I said, the idea predates Hitler, and seems to have been popular during the early 20th century. It was advocated by both pro and anti-semetic Zionists, so I don’t think there was any idea of Madagascar being particularly isolating (plus I imagine an African Jewish state would be capable of building boats). Just curious why Madagascar in particular seems to have come up so often in early Zionist plans.

According to Kershaw the anti-Semites proposed it as they saw Madagascar as essentially barren and far away enough that the Jews shipped there would be cut off from their racial brethren planning world conspiracy and find survival hard enough that a good number would die;

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> Already in 1937 there had been suggestions in the SD of deporting Jews to barren, unwelcoming parts of the world, scarcely capable of sustaining human life and certainly, in the SD’s view, incompatible with a renewed flourishing of Jewry and revitalized potential of ‘world conspiracy’. In addition to Palestine, Ecuador, Columbia, and Venezuela had been mentioned as possibilities … the suggestions were little different in essence from the old notion, later to be revamped, of Madagascar as an inhospitable territory fit to accommodate Jews until, it was implied, they eventually died out.The notion of Jewish resettlement, already aired in the SD, was itself latently genocidal.

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-hitler-think-of-modern-day-israel/700154/23 "2014-10-02T23:54:43Z")

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> [@panache45](#):
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> Could it be arranged to show Israel to Hitler on Gay Pride Day?

With some of the marchers in wheelchairs.

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**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2014, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-hitler-think-of-modern-day-israel/700154/24 "2014-10-03T00:01:07Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> With some of the marchers in wheelchairs.

How about several giant floats of Auschwitz survivors, tattoos prominently displayed, all giving a picture of Hitler the finger.

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**Author:** ![OurLordPeace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e8c25b/32.png) [@OurLordPeace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OurLordPeace)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2014, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-hitler-think-of-modern-day-israel/700154/25 "2014-10-05T19:00:49Z")

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> [@Mr.Kobayashi](#):
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> My favourite alternate Jewish resettlement proposed was [Alaska](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slattery_Report), of all places.
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> He’d probably be disappointed that his Arab allies hadn’t yet destroyed them, or that the world (no doubt now dominated by Judeo-Bolshevist…what do you mean the USSR has collapsed?!) failed to respond to its creation. No need to guess though, in his [talks with the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9d/Bundesarchiv_Bild_146-1987-004-09A%2C_Amin_al_Husseini_und_Adolf_Hitler.jpg) [told him](https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/mufti2.html);

Disappointed, but hardly surprised, inasmuch as he believed Arabs were racially inferior, and besides, he only had the support of portions of the Arab body politic anyway. The Marxists and other leftist Arab sectors saw Nazism as just as imperialist as the French and British.

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**Author:** ![protoboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/fbc32d/32.png) [@protoboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/protoboard)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2014, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-hitler-think-of-modern-day-israel/700154/26 "2014-10-05T19:49:21Z")

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I never got the idea Hitler personally cared much about anti-Semitism or Germany for that matter. I think anti-Semitism was popular at the time and he told people what they wanted to hear. Ultimately he was an egomaniac and a misanthrope above all else.

I think he might actually have admired Israel ironically if he was alive today. He’d probably hate how pacifist and tolerant Germany has become.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Kobayashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@Mr.Kobayashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Kobayashi)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2014, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-hitler-think-of-modern-day-israel/700154/27 "2014-10-06T13:05:19Z")

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> [@protoboard](#):
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> I never got the idea Hitler personally cared much about anti-Semitism or Germany for that matter. I think anti-Semitism was popular at the time and he told people what they wanted to hear. Ultimately he was an egomaniac and a misanthrope above all else.
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> I think he might actually have admired Israel ironically if he was alive today. He’d probably hate how pacifist and tolerant Germany has become.

While there were certainly more vulgar and violent anti-Semites in the NSDAP than Hitler, he certainly wasn’t just faking it for political gains, he believed it 100% and stuck with it from the beginning of his political career to his honeymoon when he put a bullet in his brain pan;

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> The offices were filled with Jews. Nearly every clerk was a Jew and nearly every Jew was a clerk. I was amazed at this plethora of warriors of the chosen people and could not help but compare them with their rare representatives at the front.  
> As regards economic life, things were even worse. Here the Jewish people had become really ‘indispensable.’ The spider was slowly beginning to suck the blood out of the people’s pores. Through the war corporations, they had found an instrument with which, little by little, to finish off the national free economy.

Mein Kampf, 1925.

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> Above all I charge the leaders of the nation and those under them to scrupulous observance of the laws of race and to merciless opposition to the universal poisoner of all peoples, international Jewry.
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> Given in Berlin, this 29th day of April 1945. 4:00 A.M.

Last political testament.

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**Author:** ![Flywheel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Flywheel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flywheel)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2014, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-hitler-think-of-modern-day-israel/700154/28 "2014-10-06T14:16:33Z")

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“Say, where could a fella catch a Wagner opera around here?..awww nuts!”

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