# What would Jesus think about all the adulation? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [December 27, 2011, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-jesus-think-about-all-the-adulation/607508 "2011-12-27T10:35:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![commoncents](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@commoncents](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commoncents)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-jesus-think-about-all-the-adulation/607508/81 "2011-12-28T16:33:08Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > That’s not the topic. > Nobody has said that. > See above. So with that: start a new thread. That goes for you and for people who want to respond to what you’ve said. I see, don’t question the validity of science. Got it. Sorry I’m new. I forgot that questioning such thing is not allowed on SD. Ok then I won’t post on this thread anymore ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-jesus-think-about-all-the-adulation/607508/82 "2011-12-28T16:36:33Z")
> [@commoncents](#): > > I see, don’t question the validity of science. Got it. Sorry I’m new. I forgot that questioning such thing is not allowed on SD. Ok then I won’t post on this thread anymore For the benefit for this particular debate (which has NOTHING to do with the debate in this thread), I’ve started a new [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=636466). Post there to your heart’s content. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-jesus-think-about-all-the-adulation/607508/83 "2011-12-28T16:37:02Z")
> [@commoncents](#): > > I see, don’t question the validity of science. Got it. Sorry I’m new. I forgot that questioning such thing is not allowed on SD. Ok then I won’t post on this thread anymore You’re allowed to question “the validity of science,” whatever you think that means. I said you can’t do it _in this thread_, because this thread is supposed to be about Jesus (don’t even get me started on the irony). You can keep posting in this thread- you just have to stick to the original topic. If you continue complaining, I’m happy to get serious and give you an official warning. ---
**Author:** ![Theophane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/77aa72/32.png) [@Theophane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Theophane)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-jesus-think-about-all-the-adulation/607508/84 "2011-12-28T18:09:08Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I for one am smart enough not to position a drainage valve directly above and within inches of the intake valve, I wouldn’t place a loaded gun in the same room as innocent children with instructions for them not to touch it, then leave the room, and I wouldn’t murder most of the world’s population just because I was disappointed in them. If you were God, you might. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-jesus-think-about-all-the-adulation/607508/85 "2011-12-28T18:14:03Z")
> [@Theophane](#): > > If you were God, you might. No, I wouldn’t, and I believe I know my mind better than you do. And again, have you got a cite for your statement in post #60, or did you make that one up too? ---
**Author:** ![Theophane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/77aa72/32.png) [@Theophane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Theophane)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-jesus-think-about-all-the-adulation/607508/86 "2011-12-28T18:39:42Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > No, I wouldn’t, and I believe I know my mind better than you do. > And again, have you got a cite for your statement in post #60, or did you make that one up too? I don’t need a cite if I’m just speaking my mind. I stand by my #60. And this one. Enough with the bickering! ---
**Author:** ![DaveBfd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c6cbf5/32.png) [@DaveBfd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DaveBfd)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-jesus-think-about-all-the-adulation/607508/87 "2011-12-28T20:16:12Z")
Theo, he’s asking for a cite because it is stupid to “debate” opinions. You made statements as facts, and he wants you to prove them. If you cant prove them you cant use them to defend your position in the debate. Personally I find the whole issue of Gaga pointless… but I see the point in his asking. ---
**Author:** ![Theophane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/77aa72/32.png) [@Theophane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Theophane)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-jesus-think-about-all-the-adulation/607508/88 "2011-12-28T20:26:49Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Cite? That was a bit of pop-cultural anaylsis, by me. Here is a link for the cite : [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/fr/a/a5/Logo\_La\_Cit%C3%A9\_coll%C3%A9giale\_couleur\_avec\_slogan.jpg](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/fr/a/a5/Logo_La_Cit%C3%A9_coll%C3%A9giale_couleur_avec_slogan.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-jesus-think-about-all-the-adulation/607508/89 "2011-12-28T20:30:07Z")
> [@Theophane](#): > > That was a bit of pop-cultural anaylsis, by me. > > Here is a link for the cite : [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/fr/a/a5/Logo\_La\_Cit%C3%A9\_coll%C3%A9giale\_couleur\_avec\_slogan.jpg](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/fr/a/a5/Logo_La_Cit%C3%A9_coll%C3%A9giale_couleur_avec_slogan.jpg) _sigh_ Try again. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-jesus-think-about-all-the-adulation/607508/90 "2011-12-28T20:31:20Z")
> [@Theophane](#): > > God works in mysterious ways. Such a convenient explanation for giving God credit while avoiding giving God blame. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-jesus-think-about-all-the-adulation/607508/91 "2011-12-28T20:32:13Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > _sigh_ > Try again. He’s cleverly used a pun to defeat your request that he post some facts to support his argument. Brilliant strategy. Now everybody has to agree with **Theophane** : Lady Gaga’s fans hate Jesus. (I thought they hated music, but I don’t have a pun.) ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-jesus-think-about-all-the-adulation/607508/92 "2011-12-28T20:36:31Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > He’s cleverly used a pun to defeat your request that he post some facts to support his argument. Brilliant strategy. Now everybody has to agree with **Theophane** : Lady Gaga’s fans hate Jesus. (I thought they hated music, but I don’t have a pun.) If you keep this up we might have to trade names. ---
**Author:** ![Theophane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/77aa72/32.png) [@Theophane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Theophane)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-jesus-think-about-all-the-adulation/607508/93 "2011-12-28T21:43:48Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Such a convenient explanation for giving God credit while avoiding giving God blame. “Mysterious ways” isn’t necessarily praise. It just means you don’t understand how or why God moves in the world. ---
**Author:** ![PigArcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bcef8e/32.png) [@PigArcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PigArcher)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-jesus-think-about-all-the-adulation/607508/94 "2011-12-28T22:01:03Z")
> [@Theophane](#): > > “Mysterious ways” isn’t necessarily praise. It just means you don’t understand how or why God moves in the world. Which is exactly what makes it such a convenient explanation for giving God credit while avoiding giving God blame. ---
**Author:** ![Theophane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/77aa72/32.png) [@Theophane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Theophane)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-jesus-think-about-all-the-adulation/607508/95 "2011-12-28T22:01:48Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > He’s cleverly used a pun to defeat your request that he post some facts to support his argument. Brilliant strategy. Now everybody has to agree with **Theophane** : Lady Gaga’s fans hate Jesus. (I thought they hated music, but I don’t have a pun.) I should rephrase that. Gaga’s fans hate Christianity, and why shouldn’t they? The Little Monsters have every reason to hate and reject Christianity as it is. I sympathize with them. But let’s not get too off-point. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-jesus-think-about-all-the-adulation/607508/96 "2011-12-28T22:01:59Z")
> [@Theophane](#): > > [QUOTE=Czarcasm] > > I for one am smart enough not to position a drainage valve directly above and within inches of the intake valve, I wouldn’t place a loaded gun in the same room as innocent children with instructions for them not to touch it, then leave the room, and I wouldn’t murder most of the world’s population just because I was disappointed in them. If you were God, you might. [/QUOTE] He has a point **Czarcasm** ; judging from the stories about them, being a god _does_ seem to involve a certain amount of brain damage and a big helping of psychopathy. ---
**Author:** ![florez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b9e5f3/32.png) [@florez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/florez)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-jesus-think-about-all-the-adulation/607508/97 "2011-12-28T22:04:15Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > If there’s a single figure receiving a comparable amount of worship/reverence as Jesus, I’d guess it was Muhammad. It is true that Muhammed is not worshipped as a God, it goes against the basic belief in Islam, that “there is no God but God.” Also, I wonder if Jesus really wanted to be worshipped as a God. Would’nt the prayer- “Our father, who art in heaven, hallowed be Thy name…” go instead:" Me, Me, Me, who art on earth, hallowed be My name…" ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-jesus-think-about-all-the-adulation/607508/98 "2011-12-28T22:07:17Z")
> [@Theophane](#): > > I should rephrase that. Gaga’s fan’s hate Christianity, and why shouldn’t they? Can we get a citation for _that_, at least? It seems like this kind of accusation gets thrown at every major pop star - and I’m just talking about the pop stars, nevermind the kind of nonsense that gets trotted out about rock or heavy metal musicians. ---
**Author:** ![PigArcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bcef8e/32.png) [@PigArcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PigArcher)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-jesus-think-about-all-the-adulation/607508/99 "2011-12-28T22:29:16Z")
> [@Theophane](#): > > Gaga’s fans hate Christianity, and why shouldn’t they? Why should they? What is it about Lady Gaga fandom that implies hate of Christianity? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2011, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-jesus-think-about-all-the-adulation/607508/100 "2011-12-28T23:37:54Z")
> [@Theophane](#): > > “Mysterious ways” isn’t necessarily praise. It just means you don’t understand how or why God moves in the world. I don’t see how it could be praise at _any_ time. It’s like saying “the dice fall at random,” merely an observation of behaviour without an attempt to explain its mechanics. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-jesus-think-about-all-the-adulation/607508.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-jesus-think-about-all-the-adulation/607508.md?page=6)