# What would Mozart have thought of the Super Mario Theme? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 29, 2010, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-mozart-have-thought-of-the-super-mario-theme/537725 "2010-04-29T06:22:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-mozart-have-thought-of-the-super-mario-theme/537725/1 "2010-04-29T06:22:59Z")
Dum-dum-dum, da dum-dum-dum. The Mario theme is an immortal jingle in the collective musical consciousness of the world. Either through it’s musical merit or it’s associated gameplay glee, it brings a smile to the face. I listened to it a few times tonight, and for the life of me I can’t place its musical mode, or even what kind of music it is. There is no orchestration, so it’s not harmonically complex, but yet the melody seems to have this awesome happy power to it. So, what would Mozart have thought of this tune? Any ideas? ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-mozart-have-thought-of-the-super-mario-theme/537725/2 "2010-04-29T06:26:04Z")
Upon a trip to the water closet, I got to thinking that due to its heavy syncopation and other small things I can’t put into words, maybe it most resembles a certain kind of jazz. This would put it more into Beethoven territory (right?), as I thought the Romantic period was the precursor of Jazz. I might be totally off-base. ---
**Author:** ![Winston\_Bongo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a9adbd/32.png) [@Winston\_Bongo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Winston_Bongo)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-mozart-have-thought-of-the-super-mario-theme/537725/3 "2010-04-29T06:45:48Z")
A few years ago, I had borrowed a friend’s iPod, and he had a version of the Super Mario theme played by a full orchestra. It was just about the coolest thing I’d ever heard in my life. And it _worked!_ I mean, it didn’t sound like a corny muzak version – it sounded like something that had actually been composed for an orchestra. And yet it was, undeniably, the Super Mario theme. I have no idea who was responsible for it, but I’d like to find out and hear it again. ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-mozart-have-thought-of-the-super-mario-theme/537725/4 "2010-04-29T06:49:33Z")
Although, I have to admit that “Twelve Variations on an Overworld” would be kickass! ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-mozart-have-thought-of-the-super-mario-theme/537725/5 "2010-04-29T06:51:20Z")
> [@Winston\_Bongo](#): > > A few years ago, I had borrowed a friend’s iPod, and he had a version of the Super Mario theme played by a full orchestra. It was just about the coolest thing I’d ever heard in my life. And it _worked!_ I mean, it didn’t sound like a corny muzak version – it sounded like something that had actually been composed for an orchestra. And yet it was, undeniably, the Super Mario theme. > > I have no idea who was responsible for it, but I’d like to find out and hear it again. Probably not what you’re thinking of, but the Smash Bros Great Medley, recorded by New Japan Philharmonic, is possibly one of the finest orchestral recordings of video game music ever (as well as the rest of the Smashing… Live CD). Unfortunately it’s 14.5 minutes so it has to be broken into two parts: P1: ![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/GEwBaXdPxZk/maxresdefault.jpg)https://www.youtube.com/embed/GEwBaXdPxZk?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque P2: ![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/AJeJpV0TvMA/maxresdefault.jpg)https://www.youtube.com/embed/AJeJpV0TvMA?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-mozart-have-thought-of-the-super-mario-theme/537725/6 "2010-04-29T07:00:56Z")
> [@Autolycus](#): > > I listened to it a few times tonight, and for the life of me I can’t place its musical mode, or even what kind of music it is. Well, it’s basically in major scale with a lot of chromatic passing notes in it (particularly the “blue” notes of the dominant seventh and flatted third. It also has a lot of the augmented fifth.) I would still basically call it a major scale. The chromaticism and melody lines actually remind me a lot of ragtime melodies, as well as the syncopation, but the rhythm is somewhat different than ragtime. The rhythm itself feels Carribean to me, and I think it is supposed to The harmonies are fairly sparse and simple, but also pretty contemporary (with the bVI and bVII chords.) I don’t recall bVI-bVII-I and bVI-I progressions used much before the 20th century (but I may very well be wrong.) ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-mozart-have-thought-of-the-super-mario-theme/537725/7 "2010-04-29T07:16:13Z")
Wow, thanks everyone for all your responses so far. I’m now listening to some of the links and will report back after. In the meantime, I found this Wiki link which seems to support a lot of what **pulykamell** is saying: [Super Mario Bros. theme - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Mario_Bros._theme) Thinking about this song raises evens deeper question of what makes a song catchy in the first place versus what makes it ‘good,’ and how these intersect. That’s a PhD+ topic there, you betcha. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-mozart-have-thought-of-the-super-mario-theme/537725/8 "2010-04-29T07:32:47Z")
Ragtime would be my closest guess. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/CF-mBeT_ZaQ/hqdefault.jpg "Scott Joplin - Elite Syncopations") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF-mBeT_ZaQ) ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-mozart-have-thought-of-the-super-mario-theme/537725/9 "2010-04-29T08:16:31Z")
> [@Winston\_Bongo](#): > > I have no idea who was responsible for it, but I’d like to find out and hear it again. The Smash Medley was also great, but perhaps this is what you heard? From Play! A Videogame Symphony: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2QWwXFOsoI&feature=related](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2QWwXFOsoI&feature=related) ---
**Author:** ![Yumblie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/76d3ee/32.png) [@Yumblie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yumblie)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-mozart-have-thought-of-the-super-mario-theme/537725/10 "2010-04-29T16:45:30Z")
[Here](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqVWpRYQbmw) is the original orchestrated version of the theme from a series of orchestral game music CDs that came out in the 90s in Japan. [Here](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDlDV_vn8qU&feature=related)’s one for the Zelda theme, which was composed by the same guy. I like the one comment in that Wiki article from Nobuo Uematsu (composer for Final Fantasy series) that stated it’s so popular it should become Japan’s national anthem, an idea simultaneously ridiculous and awesome…possibly ridiculously awesome. ---
**Author:** ![Jas09](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d07c76/32.png) [@Jas09](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jas09)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2010, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-mozart-have-thought-of-the-super-mario-theme/537725/11 "2010-04-29T18:01:08Z")
> [@Yumblie](#): > > I like the one comment in that Wiki article from Nobuo Uematsu (composer for Final Fantasy series) that stated it’s so popular it should become Japan’s national anthem, an idea simultaneously ridiculous and awesome…possibly ridiculously awesome. Nah, just awesome! Imagine at the Olympics, jumping up to the top of the platform with the Overworld Theme playing? What could be cooler? 🆒