# What would you call it?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-call-it/318389>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 24, 2005, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-call-it/318389 "2005-08-24T04:12:29Z")\
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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-call-it/318389/1 "2005-08-24T04:12:29Z")

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[This article](http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8853004/site/newsweek/) talks about a new organization, Stop Her Now, whose openly avowed purpose is to thwart Hillary Clinton’s Presidental run. Whether or not that’s a good idea is left up to the individual.

But I was amused by the statement from the organization’s executive director Will Black who ridiculed Clinton by saying “She always has to have a bogeyman, whether it’s Stop Her Now or ‘the vast right wing conspiracy’.”

So if I’m getting this straight, Mr Black, who is the head of a conservative group whose only purpose is to oppose Hillary Clinton, is making fun of Hillary Clinton for claiming that there are conservative groups whose only purpose is to oppose her.

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**Author:** ![Exploding\_Kitchen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Exploding\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exploding_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-call-it/318389/2 "2005-08-24T04:38:40Z")

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That’s gotta be some tasty kool-aid.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-call-it/318389/3 "2005-08-24T04:44:50Z")

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I guess he’s admitting the group isn’t vast?

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-call-it/318389/4 "2005-08-24T05:34:57Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> I guess he’s admitting the group isn’t vast?

It’s probably at least half-vast.

_C’mon! you knew somebody was going to say it!_

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-call-it/318389/5 "2005-08-24T05:41:16Z")

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What Presidential run? When did HRC announce that she was running for for President?

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**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-call-it/318389/6 "2005-08-24T05:49:34Z")

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The guy sounds like a total boob. Let Hillary do whatever she desires. The best way to defeat her is to have a better candidate, which shouldn’t prove to be a daunting task.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-call-it/318389/7 "2005-08-24T05:54:35Z")

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Interestingly, the letters in “Stop Her Now” can be re-arranged to spell “Stern Whoop”. Just, ya know, FYI. 😃

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-call-it/318389/8 "2005-08-24T07:00:13Z")

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> What Presidential run? When did HRC announce that she was running for for President?

She hasn’t. But a vast right wing conspiracy isn’t something you can just throw together at the last minute.

On the other hand, if she doesn’t run, Stop Her Now can presumedly do nothing, claim they were successful, and pocket all the money they’ve collected.

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**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-call-it/318389/9 "2005-08-24T12:41:06Z")

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> [@Little Nemo](#):
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> On the other hand, if she doesn’t run, Stop Her Now can presumedly do nothing, claim they were successful, and pocket all the money they’ve collected.

Sounds like Bialystock and Bloom have gotten into politics.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-call-it/318389/10 "2005-08-24T12:43:46Z")

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> [@Little Nemo](#):
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> On the other hand, if she doesn’t run, Stop Her Now can presumedly do nothing, claim they were successful, and pocket all the money they’ve collected.

Don’t see any tigers around here, do you?

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**Author:** ![Anaamika](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Anaamika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anaamika)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-call-it/318389/11 "2005-08-24T12:51:28Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> What Presidential run? When did HRC announce that she was running for for President?

There’s a website entitled “Christopher Walken” for Prez, and he’s certainly not running, so I guess these people took a hint and decided to be _ultra-prepared_.

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-call-it/318389/12 "2005-08-24T13:11:34Z")

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> [@danceswithcats](#):
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> The guy sounds like a total boob. Let Hillary do whatever she desires. The best way to defeat her is to have a better candidate, which shouldn’t prove to be a daunting task.

Yeah, but finding a better candidate is hard. It’s far easier to make your candidate look better than their opponent. That’s why you sling mud. Don’t you pay attention to politics?

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-call-it/318389/13 "2005-08-24T13:17:40Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> It’s probably at least half-vast.

Very nice!

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-call-it/318389/14 "2005-08-24T13:33:28Z")

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Morons in politics have a long and proud history, and those that loathe Hillary tend to have an extra double plus helping of absurdity.

A few years back, my girlfriend got a mailing from a gun support group. She was supposed to send a contribution back with a slip with the following multiple choice question:

-Yes, I believe in freedom and liberty, and believe in America. Here is my contribution of \_\_\_\_\_\_\_.

-No, I side with Hillary Clinton and want to take away all of our freedoms. I hate America.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-call-it/318389/15 "2005-08-24T17:22:30Z")

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> [@tdn](#):
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> A few years back, my girlfriend got a mailing from a gun support group. She was supposed to send a contribution back with a slip with the following multiple choice question:
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> -Yes, I believe in freedom and liberty, and believe in America. Here is my contribution of \_\_\_\_\_\_\_.
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> -No, I side with Hillary Clinton and want to take away all of our freedoms. I hate America.

This was serious? Not a [Landover Baptist Church](http://www.landoverbaptist.org/) parody type mailing?

Holy catfish. :eek:

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-call-it/318389/16 "2005-08-24T17:34:43Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> This was serious?

Yes, I believe it was. But it was such a parody of itself I had to wonder for a bit. I had a strong urge to write them a strongly worded letter, but then I figured that these were loony extremists who also owned guns, so why tempt fate. Also, I didn’t have a stamp.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-call-it/318389/17 "2005-08-24T17:45:23Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> What Presidential run? When did HRC announce that she was running for for President?

It’s been, like, so TOTALLY clear that she’s running for president for, like, YEARS, man. Like, the whole Bill Clinton presidency was just there to, like, set her up for the seat.

Seriously though, I still wouldn’t put it past her to run, but it is kind of silly to try and thwart her before she’s even officially annouced her intention.

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-call-it/318389/18 "2005-08-24T18:51:50Z")

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There is no publicity like free publicity.

What a fucking idiot.

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-call-it/318389/19 "2005-08-24T18:56:36Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> What Presidential run? When did HRC announce that she was running for for President?

1. 😛

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2005, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-call-it/318389/20 "2005-08-24T19:02:08Z")

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At times like this, I wonder if Hillary keeps dangling the “I might run for Prez” meme just to distract the right-wing nutgroups (an oxymoron, I know 😉 ) and induce them to burn through their cash all that quicker.

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