# What would you do?  (Teenage sex question)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-do-teenage-sex-question/568028>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [January 18, 2011, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-do-teenage-sex-question/568028 "2011-01-18T01:21:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-do-teenage-sex-question/568028/221 "2011-01-18T21:20:53Z")

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> [@Duke](#):
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> Oh, and then there’s this:
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> Yeah, what did your attorney say about your evidence-destroying spree right before pondering whether it was a good idea to file rape charges against Nephew X’s girlfriend?

He asked if I could come over and destroy his kid’s cell phones. And then said this would be a good time to call in any police contacts I had and get the point across that I didn’t know this was happening, but at the first knowledge sought the appropriate legal remedies.

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**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-do-teenage-sex-question/568028/222 "2011-01-18T21:22:45Z")

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> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#):
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> Somebody has to be on hand to sign legal documents, keep an eye on the kid.

So do you or do you not have a legal right to sign legal documents as the kid’s guardian? I’m guessing no.

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**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-do-teenage-sex-question/568028/223 "2011-01-18T21:23:47Z")

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> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#):
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> He asked if I could come over and destroy his kid’s cell phones.

During this thread you’ve referred to the cell phone as belonging to first “the kid”, then you, now apparently the kid again. OK.

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**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-do-teenage-sex-question/568028/224 "2011-01-18T21:36:50Z")

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[turns around like Columbo] Oh, just one more thing…

> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#):
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> He asked if I could come over and destroy his kid’s cell phones.

Let’s get this straight. Your attorney told you it was a good idea to destroy evidence.

Let’s repeat this: your attorney told you it was a good idea to destroy evidence.

Yeah, I’m out.

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**Author:** ![Waxwinged](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c2a13f/32.png) [@Waxwinged](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waxwinged)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-do-teenage-sex-question/568028/225 "2011-01-18T21:57:55Z")

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Talking with the parents with legal presence would just seem like you’re threatening them, which might make them do the very thing that you’re trying to prevent. And all talk of different culture aside, I think a girl would be more likely to be believed if she cries rape.

Whatever the case may be, **ZPG** , I hope that you do not do anything too rash. Live and let live.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-do-teenage-sex-question/568028/226 "2011-01-18T22:10:02Z")

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No, her attorney wants to stop paying his own kids’ cell phone bills, and made a joke about having **ZPGZealot** get him out from under the problem.

OP, what did your attorney say about the destruction of the evidence that occurred when you smashed your nephew’s cell phone? If he didn’t have anything pertinent to say about something that significant I’d suggest you get another lawyer, toot sweet, because he doesn’t sound like he’s particularly well-equipped to be of much use to you in a case such as you describe.

Also, I have some photos on my cell phone that have never been transmitted ('cos my daughter took them when the phone was hers and I’ve always been too cheap to let her get texting on her prepaid cell phone). Destroying that phone _would_ cause those pics to not exist. Were the pics in question sent to his (excuse me: _your_ :rolleyes:) phone, or taken on the phone and just stored there?

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-do-teenage-sex-question/568028/227 "2011-01-18T22:58:29Z")

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Where does one start?

I feel sorry for Nephew, because his “guardian” is not a responsible adult, nor is his father, and apparently his mother also his a horror of a human being. IMO, the OP is lucky that Nephew has only had sex with a kid his own age. Given his “rearing” or lack thereof, he’s more likely to have turned into a juvenile delinquent.

I feel sorry for Nephew’s girlfriend who surely never signed on for a trip into CrazyTown with Nephew’s guardian.

I actually feel sorry for the OP because to see the world in this way takes a massive amount of energy and time.

And to the OP: you don’t know from WASP. I am a WASP. **Guin** is correct: white does not equal WASP.

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**Author:** ![Shark\_Sandwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Shark\_Sandwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shark_Sandwich)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-do-teenage-sex-question/568028/228 "2011-01-18T23:14:40Z")

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> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#):
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> For anyone who is not familiar with the OP’s particular brand of crazy, you should definitely take a read through [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=593049)current thread. It’s full of some really hilarious nutbaggery!

Oh my.

BTW - lol’ed at “nutbaggery.” Consider it stolen.

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**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-do-teenage-sex-question/568028/229 "2011-01-18T23:17:03Z")

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> [@Walmarticus](#):
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> Do you have any reason to suspect this girl was intending to accuse him of raping her? I’d really hate to think you’d ruin an innocent girl’s life due to paranoia.

Teenage stupidity, I have seen girls in this neighborhood do it because they were afraid of their parents or parents in denial that their kids will consent to sex (Nope, they had to have been seduced, drugged, or over powered.). I’d really hate to think that my innocent nephew’s life was ruined because I didn’t act.

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**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-do-teenage-sex-question/568028/230 "2011-01-18T23:19:16Z")

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> [@Duke](#):
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> So do you or do you not have a legal right to sign legal documents as the kid’s guardian? I’m guessing no.

Yes, I have the legal right to sign all legal documents pertaining to this kid. Wish I didn’t, but that can’t be altered right now.

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**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-do-teenage-sex-question/568028/231 "2011-01-18T23:21:31Z")

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> [@bucketybuck](#):
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> What would you do if, as a result of an ongoing investigation alleging the girl raped your nephew, the police also arrested and charged your nephew with the same crime. You say the sex was consensual, so one must follow the other.

Any opinion on this **ZPG**?

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**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-do-teenage-sex-question/568028/232 "2011-01-18T23:21:52Z")

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I love how \*\*ZPGZealot \*\*has posted all this information about her nephew committing statutory rape to a \*public \*message board.

You’ve destroyed the phone, but what happens when the police read\* this thread\*?

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**Author:** ![Hakuna\_Matata](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@Hakuna\_Matata](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hakuna_Matata)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-do-teenage-sex-question/568028/233 "2011-01-18T23:24:34Z")

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Can I ask you a question? How old are you? And are you yourself in a serious relationship? If so–what does your partner think about this situation? Do you have living parents? If so–what do they say about this situation?

I am a minority and the situation you described seems so alien to me that I am just curious as to what others close to you have to say about this situation. Your view on life as a minority is very different then my view as a minority. Frankly your views on life in general and life between boys and girls is so different then mine-and this coming from the father of a 15 year old daughter.

I wish you well but in my opinion if you escalate this to a criminal matter you (or I should say your nephew) will come out on the losing end. I would think twice and even three times before you involve the law.

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**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-do-teenage-sex-question/568028/234 "2011-01-18T23:28:22Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> No, her attorney wants to stop paying his own kids’ cell phone bills, and made a joke about having **ZPGZealot** get him out from under the problem.
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> OP, what did your attorney say about the destruction of the evidence that occurred when you smashed your nephew’s cell phone? If he didn’t have anything pertinent to say about something that significant I’d suggest you get another lawyer, toot sweet, because he doesn’t sound like he’s particularly well-equipped to be of much use to you in a case such as you describe.
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> Also, I have some photos on my cell phone that have never been transmitted ('cos my daughter took them when the phone was hers and I’ve always been too cheap to let her get texting on her prepaid cell phone). Destroying that phone _would_ cause those pics to not exist. Were the pics in question sent to his (excuse me: _your_ :rolleyes:) phone, or taken on the phone and just stored there?

That if we need it, we can probably get enough restored from the battered carcass and that while he understands the impulse, I should save any more sexually explicit communication from the girl. As far as I could tell the pics in question where sent to the phone Nephew X was allowed to use.

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**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-do-teenage-sex-question/568028/235 "2011-01-18T23:32:12Z")

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> [@bucketybuck](#):
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> Any opinion on this **ZPG**?

I think that’s what lawyers are for. Better to have legal representation from the beginning than plan catch-as-can after someone else like a teacher, healthcare worker, a friend’s parent, etc, reports that underage kids are having sex and that there are nude photos of the girl.

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**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-do-teenage-sex-question/568028/236 "2011-01-18T23:50:02Z")

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> [@Hakuna\_Matata](#):
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> Can I ask you a question? How old are you? And are you yourself in a serious relationship? If so–what does your partner think about this situation? Do you have living parents? If so–what do they say about this situation?
> 
> I am a minority and the situation you described seems so alien to me that I am just curious as to what others close to you have to say about this situation. Your view on life as a minority is very different then my view as a minority. Frankly your views on life in general and life between boys and girls is so different then mine-and this coming from the father of a 15 year old daughter.
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> I wish you well but in my opinion if you escalate this to a criminal matter you (or I should say your nephew) will come out on the losing end. I would think twice and even three times before you involve the law.

Closer to 50 than 40, I have been married to current husband over two decades. He has less regard for the rule of law than me and his people in Montenegro and Serbia handle things like this with violence. My parents are not living, but I fairly certain their solution would be, “Sixteen year old boys like sex, so arrange his marriage with one of friends’ daughters, so we don’t have problems with strangers or police”. Most of our family and friends say about this situation, “If the girl gets pregnant or her family causes problems, send your nephew away finishing high school, going on to college, etc. aren’t that important.”

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**Author:** ![lindsaybluth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/90db22/32.png) [@lindsaybluth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lindsaybluth)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-do-teenage-sex-question/568028/237 "2011-01-18T23:59:43Z")

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Has it taken this long for someone to mention the OP is **Roma**? That explains like, at least 95% of the opinions and viewpoints expressed.

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**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-do-teenage-sex-question/568028/238 "2011-01-19T00:10:56Z")

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> [@lorene](#):
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> I’ve been trying my damndest to stay out of this hotbed of insanity here, but I had to quote this in the hopes that\*\* ZPG\*\* would read and respond to it. Please, **ZPG** , if your internet speeds up to the point where you can reply…please respond to this.

There is no false accusation involved. Nephew X is below the age of consent in the state we live in. He cannot legally consent to sex. I inform the appropriate legal authorities that underage sex has occurred and that I, the adult who is suppose to be looking out for him, intend to take appropriate measures (stricter curfews, no cell phone, no unsupervised guests, no car priviledges. etc.) to keep the kid within the bounds of the law. I am not letting him run wild. I am not turning a blind eye. If the girl’s parents want to claim later that their “innocent baby” was ruined by that juvenile delinquent, we have a paper trail that contradicts them.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-do-teenage-sex-question/568028/239 "2011-01-19T00:20:50Z")

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> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#):
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> I am not turning a blind eye. If the girl’s parents want to claim later that their “innocent baby” was ruined by that juvenile delinquent, we have a paper trail that contradicts them.

Do you have ANY evidence that they might do so? Because you better be damned sure before you start spewing out accusations.  
And again – what is your definition of a “WASP”?  
(Oh, and since this girl sent him the photos – they still exist)

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-do-teenage-sex-question/568028/240 "2011-01-19T00:25:19Z")

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> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#):
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> I think that’s what lawyers are for. Better to have legal representation from the beginning than plan catch-as-can after someone else like a teacher, healthcare worker, a friend’s parent, etc, reports that underage kids are having sex and that there are nude photos of the girl.

Have you told your lawyer that you admitted to destroying evidence and possibly accusing that poor girl of rape just so you could get first licks in _on a public message board?_

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