# What would you do?  (Teenage sex question)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-do-teenage-sex-question/568028>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [January 18, 2011, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-do-teenage-sex-question/568028 "2011-01-18T01:21:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-do-teenage-sex-question/568028/161 "2011-01-18T06:01:32Z")

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> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#):
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> Can you people even read? Or more likely you simply perfer to ignore reality and invent your own paradigm of what is happening based on your prejudices. Neither me or my attorney has said anything about accusing the girl of forcibly raping my nephew. Forcible Rape has never been an issue.

Then I’m certainly glad I never mentioned forcible rape anywhere in my post.

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**Author:** ![6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/6/e19adc/32.png) [@6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-do-teenage-sex-question/568028/162 "2011-01-18T06:15:42Z")

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I don’t know about the underaged sex, but this sure is one big head fuck…

Even if **ZPG** _did_ report this “sex crime” - wouldn’t it be heresay?

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**Author:** ![Nadir](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nadir/32/7302_2.png) [@Nadir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nadir)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-do-teenage-sex-question/568028/163 "2011-01-18T06:17:49Z")

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> [@Chris\_Luongo](#):
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> Well anyway, my point is that what you’re doing to your nephew is GOING TO SCREW HIM UP! I can assure you, when he comes out the other end of this, that is, if you manage to force your ideas and thought patterns onto him, he’ll be a mess. He’ll end up with a very twisted idea of what sex is supposed to be, and what a normal, healthy relationship is.

Absolutely. You are one messed up beotch, lady. The only problem I see here is a nosy auntie that can’t mind her own business with access to the wonderful world of digital media.

Hope you’re happy about destroying the phone, because on the off chance your wildly paranoid expectation came to fruition you would be guilty of destroying evidence. The records of what was sent/received from it and who it belongs to are available to investigators regardless of what you might have done with it. Your answer to the question posed in court: “So ms. dumbass, why did you destroy your nephew’s phone?” would only seal the deal.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-do-teenage-sex-question/568028/164 "2011-01-18T06:39:46Z")

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Even scarier: how bad were his parents that she ended up with custody? Think of how fucked up THEY must have been!

And **ZPG** – what is your definition of a “WASP”? I believe you said your family is from Yugoslavia originally? WASP =! White

(Take me – I’m Catholic and on my dad’s side I’m Irish-German, and Polish-Slovak-Hungarian on my mom’s side. Ain’t no way I’m a WASP!)

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-do-teenage-sex-question/568028/165 "2011-01-18T06:44:05Z")

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> [@Nadir](#):
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> Absolutely. You are one messed up beotch, lady. The only problem I see here is a nosy auntie that can’t mind her own business with access to the wonderful world of digital media.
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> Hope you’re happy about destroying the phone, because on the off chance your wildly paranoid expectation came to fruition you would be guilty of destroying evidence. The records of what was sent/received from it and who it belongs to are available to investigators regardless of what you might have done with it. Your answer to the question posed in court: “So ms. dumbass, why did you destroy your nephew’s phone?” would only seal the deal.

[Moderator Warning]Infraction for not following Moderator instructions to stop with insults and name calling.[/Moderator Warning]

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-do-teenage-sex-question/568028/166 "2011-01-18T06:45:19Z")

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It’ll turn out the girl’s name is Maria Conchita Ramirez.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-do-teenage-sex-question/568028/167 "2011-01-18T06:48:08Z")

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> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#):
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> Can you people even read? Or more likely you simply perfer to ignore reality and invent your own paradigm of what is happening based on your prejudices. **Neither me or my attorney has said anything about accusing the girl of forcibly raping my nephew. Forcible Rape has never been an issue.**

> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#):
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> One idea that has been floated by my attorney no less that since Nephew X is below the age of consent and I have a good relationship with the police\*\* is to file a compliant that Nephew X has been raped\*\*, but I don’t see the situation working out where Nephew X would actually be considered the victim. Any ideas?

(Bolding mine)You’re contradicting yourself (shocking, I know).

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-do-teenage-sex-question/568028/168 "2011-01-18T07:40:51Z")

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> [@Kolga](#):
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> Women who shake hands are whores

Hmm…So when Hilary Clinton was campaigning for President, she may have scored more times than Bill did in his whole life. Allowing for all possible definitions of sex, of course. And I never would have thought she’d get anywhere near his record! 🆒

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 8:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-do-teenage-sex-question/568028/169 "2011-01-18T08:19:05Z")

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The OP destroyed evidence of a crime. Doesn’t that make him an accessory after the fact?

What country is this where 16 year olds don’t screw?

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-do-teenage-sex-question/568028/170 "2011-01-18T08:22:08Z")

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> [@Rilchiam](#):
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> Hmm…So when Hilary Clinton was campaigning for President, she may have scored more times than Bill did in his whole life. Allowing for all possible definitions of sex, of course. And I never would have thought she’d get anywhere near his record! 🆒

I think you seriously underestimate what a horn dog Bill Clinton is. He’s screwed more women than Hillary has shaken hands with men. That includes her Senate campaign, her Presidential campaign and all the hands she shook when Bubba was running for Governor and President. He is one seriously horny dude. Wilt Chamberlain  
died when he realized that he would never be able to match Bubba’s prowess.

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-do-teenage-sex-question/568028/171 "2011-01-18T10:15:01Z")

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Thanks for ruining my joke. 😛

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-do-teenage-sex-question/568028/172 "2011-01-18T11:04:50Z")

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> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#):
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> Yeah, my attorney said Rome and Juliet could be a saving grace unless a prosecutor really wants an underaged teen sex case or a case against Roma or someoen tries to claim forcible rape (which is were establishing a paper trail that it was consentual though illegal becomes so important). And then there’s whatever photos, email, texts are in cyberspace.

I find this account difficult to believe.

“Could be” a saving grace?

If in fact Texas law is applicable here, it’s hard to imagine how the Romeo and Juliet provision would not CERTAINLY be a saving grace. If the two actors are the same age, then as a matter of law both of them avoid criminal liability. There’s nothing the girl could say that could negate this, except to allege that the act was forcible, which you have already agreed is not a concern.

In other words, this is not the kind of thing that a slightly bent prosecutor might skate over… it has nothing to do with anything except the birth certificates of the kids in question.

> [@Kolga](#):
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> Actually I do. In this country. In this century. And in a world in which rapists do not lurk around every corner plotting to handrape me and in which I am not considered a whore because I shook a man’s hand in public. I know, it’s a frightening country for you to consider, but it’s real, and most of us live there.

A great deal of your hostility to the OP seems to be coming from events outside this thread.

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> [@6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast](#):
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> Even if **ZPG** _did_ report this “sex crime” - wouldn’t it be heresay?

Yes. But so is every report of a crime. “Hearsay” does not bar the report of a crime.

And even at trial, the rules of evidence would likely permit **ZPG Zealot** to testify that her nephew told her of his action. That is hearsay – an out of court statement offered in evidence to prove the truth of the matter asserted in the statement. But it falls under an exception to the hearsay rule known as an admission against interest.

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**Author:** ![cedman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@cedman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cedman)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-do-teenage-sex-question/568028/173 "2011-01-18T11:16:36Z")

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> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#):
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> _snip_ In his eyes we need to immediately get ready to fight a statutory rape charge.

THEN the lawyer can start billing you for legal services. In his eyes, he wants to get paid.

At least someone can get something positive out of the craziness!

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**Author:** ![6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/6/e19adc/32.png) [@6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-do-teenage-sex-question/568028/174 "2011-01-18T11:17:13Z")

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Thanks for the clarification, **Bricker**. It’s a nice feeling to make sense of at least _something_ that’s going on here…

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-do-teenage-sex-question/568028/175 "2011-01-18T11:42:02Z")

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Bricker this is not a court and we are not a jury. Nothing wrong with bringing something from out of the thread toform an opinion. Just take a look at the current pit thread.

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**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-do-teenage-sex-question/568028/176 "2011-01-18T14:35:18Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> A great deal of your hostility to the OP seems to be coming from events outside this thread.

Yes, **Bricker** , because things don’t happen in a fucking vacuum. Given the OP’s history of insanity, it actually is perfectly reasonable for me to have an opinion about her and her story based not only on this thread but also every other thread she’s posted with her…unique…beliefs about sex and the world.

She posted about alleged sexual behavior on the part of her nephew. She’s also posted her opinions about the sexual behavior of others in other situations. If you can’t see that my knowledge of those other posts will inform my opinion of this post, I suggest that you take a break from seeing the entire world as a possible court case.

This isn’t a courtroom, I’m not on a jury, and the fact that I have an opinion about the OP based not only on this post but on all other posts on this public message board is actually normal human behavior.

Which, of course, you know. You just like pretending that life is one big long legal thought experiment.

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**Author:** ![NinetyWt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/cc9497/32.png) [@NinetyWt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinetyWt)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-do-teenage-sex-question/568028/177 "2011-01-18T14:44:29Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> [Moderator Note]This is _not_ The BBQ Pit. The name calling and insults will stop right now.[/Moderator Note]

Thank you!

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**Author:** ![6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/6/e19adc/32.png) [@6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/6ImpossibleThingsB4Breakfast)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-do-teenage-sex-question/568028/178 "2011-01-18T15:13:21Z")

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> [@cedman](#):
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> THEN the lawyer can start billing you for legal services. In his eyes, he wants to get paid.

Oh! Okay. Teenagers want to get laid, and a lawyer wants to get paid.

_THIS_ is what I come to the Dope for…?

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**Author:** ![Waxwinged](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c2a13f/32.png) [@Waxwinged](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waxwinged)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-do-teenage-sex-question/568028/179 "2011-01-18T15:32:08Z")

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Maybe I’m coming from an idealistic perspective here, but wouldn’t it be decent of **ZPG** as a human being to have a sit-down with the girl’s parents?

Heck, I’d want to know if my daughter’s been sexually active with someone, and that she’s doing so safely.

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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-do-teenage-sex-question/568028/180 "2011-01-18T15:34:22Z")

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I’m having a hard time connecting this strong believer in her Ancient Roma Traditions with the divorcing, aborting advocate of zero population growth we’ve previously met…

If there is any germ of truth in this story, why hasn’t the OP contacted the father of her unfortunate nephew? Offshore workers can be contacted by phone & email. They also stay offshore for weeks at a time–for which they are well paid–& then return home for a couple of weeks. He’s not on a rocket bound for the moons of Jupiter.

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