# What would you offer Hillary if you were Obama? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [June 3, 2008, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-offer-hillary-if-you-were-obama/451595 "2008-06-03T05:48:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2008, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-offer-hillary-if-you-were-obama/451595/61 "2008-06-03T23:36:27Z")
I think the spot I’d most want Hillary in is the Senate Majority Leader. She’d be good at that and she would be in perfect position to shepherd UHC through congress. I’d also offer her a great amount of input on that legislation, perhaps even conceding to her own vision. It’s been her pet project and her greatest legislative ambition for years. I’d do what I could to get her that legacy and that credit. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-offer-hillary-if-you-were-obama/451595/62 "2008-06-04T00:07:41Z")
[QUOTE=Mighty\_Girl] A toaster and a round of applause? [/QUOTE] I might even throw in [a lousy copy of the home game](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hicZKvkPfAA). 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/96bed5/32.png) [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Patty_O_Furniture)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-offer-hillary-if-you-were-obama/451595/63 "2008-06-04T00:48:32Z")
There are some really bitter, spiteful responses in this thread. Obama will be put on the spot with this question from The Liberal Media, so he has to have an answer ready. And that answer ought not to alienate Clinton fans lest he have even more trouble in the swing states than he already appears to have now. > [@](#): > > There are more registered democrats right now in all 50 states who are ABSOLUTLEY not going to vote for a republican administration, than there are republicans to get McCain in. “ABSOLUTLEY not going to vote for a republican” ≠ voting for a democrat. Obama _probably_ wins through a fortunate combination of charisma and McCain being a poor opponent. If McCain were a slightly stronger candidate or Obama not quite as appealing, I don’t think he’d have a chance. ---
**Author:** ![kevja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/aeb1de/32.png) [@kevja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kevja)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-offer-hillary-if-you-were-obama/451595/64 "2008-06-04T02:40:00Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] That’s a pretty weird comment. The post you’re defending was worried about red states. Democrats have won MI, MN, WI, PA, and NJ in the last four presidential elections. Those are blue states. Democrats won OH twice. [/QUOTE] None of those states are a guarantee. Kerry didn’t win Ohio in 2004. Gore didn’t win it 2000. And Obama won’t either if he treats the people of that state as if they were “leaching away.” ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-offer-hillary-if-you-were-obama/451595/65 "2008-06-04T02:43:01Z")
[QUOTE=kevja] None of those states are a guarantee. Kerry didn’t win Ohio in 2004. Gore didn’t win it 2000. And Obama won’t either if he treats the people of that state as if they were “leaching away.” [/QUOTE] Did you watch is speech tonight? He won’t. ---
**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-offer-hillary-if-you-were-obama/451595/66 "2008-06-04T02:51:11Z")
[QUOTE=Argent Towers] I’d offer her nine and a half inches of prime Kenya blacksnake. [/QUOTE] That was vulgar, inappropriate, and wrong. I’m laughing my ass off. ---
**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-offer-hillary-if-you-were-obama/451595/67 "2008-06-04T02:55:12Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] Depends on the position. VP? No way. That would be making a bargain with the devil. I would reconsider my support for Obama if he offered her the VP slot. [/QUOTE] I agree. Offer to pay off her debts, and then show her the door. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-offer-hillary-if-you-were-obama/451595/68 "2008-06-04T02:56:05Z")
Man, Hillary showed how low she really is tonight. ---
**Author:** ![Merkwurdigliebe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/74df32/32.png) [@Merkwurdigliebe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merkwurdigliebe)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-offer-hillary-if-you-were-obama/451595/69 "2008-06-04T03:31:35Z")
Hillary has nothing. She offers nothing to help him win the nomination, so her part of this process is over now. She can try to play the spoiler if she likes, but it will never work. ---
**Author:** ![Burton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Burton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Burton)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-offer-hillary-if-you-were-obama/451595/70 "2008-06-04T03:57:59Z")
Nothing whatsoever, is what he should offer her. He was way too kind in his remarks about her tonight. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-offer-hillary-if-you-were-obama/451595/71 "2008-06-04T04:42:33Z")
Its about John McCain now. If I have to eat some shit to keep him from being CnC…here’s my spoon, here’s my grin… ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-offer-hillary-if-you-were-obama/451595/72 "2008-06-04T04:53:47Z")
He may lose some Hillary die-hards by not explicitly offering her anything and in particular snubbing her request for a VP offer. But he will win the votes of many more who need to see that he has a spine. In short, if he proves that will blink against Hillary’s implied threat to bring the party down with her if she isn’t on the ticket, then he proves to many that he will blink against the other petty dictators of the world. Stand up to her petty demands and you show that you deserve respect. No pandering and that includes to the Hillary die-hards. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Rosewater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/898d66/32.png) [@Mr.Rosewater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Rosewater)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-offer-hillary-if-you-were-obama/451595/73 "2008-06-04T04:59:17Z")
As I said in the other thread, I think she has now thrown away her last chance to get anything out of this campaign. I rescind\* the suggestion I posted above that Obama might pay off her debts. She deserves nothing more than directions to the door. - and reject, and denounce, etc. ---
**Author:** ![vison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/e47774/32.png) [@vison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vison)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-offer-hillary-if-you-were-obama/451595/74 "2008-06-04T05:04:03Z")
He’s been gracious and conciliatory and she’s been rude and arrogant. What should he offer her? The same courtesy he always has, as he shows her to the door. And shuts it. And locks it. And melts the key into a blob and drops it into the Potomac. What a piece of work she is. If I was an American and if he makes her his choice for VP, I’d move to Canada. ---
**Author:** ![2nd\_Law](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/f475e1/32.png) [@2nd\_Law](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2nd_Law)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-offer-hillary-if-you-were-obama/451595/75 "2008-06-04T06:22:43Z")
In exchange for Hillary’s full and immediate concession and serious campaigning for the Democratic ticket in November, which Hillary would **not** be on, I could see Obama offering to assist in retiring her debt (not outright paying it off, but assisting her with some kind of fund raising), and an offer that he would not see to it that she had a challenger in the next New York primary for her senate seat (the implication being that, while he won’t prevent one from appearing, he would see to it as de facto head of the party that there was one next time around if she refused the deal). ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-offer-hillary-if-you-were-obama/451595/76 "2008-06-04T06:44:12Z")
I don’t have a problem with him paying off her debt _in toto_. I think it would be a worthwhile investment. I also think he should promise to make UHC a centerpiece of his administration, with her taking the legislative lead, and he should offer her a big, fat prime time speaking spot at the convention. ---
**Author:** ![Desert\_Nomad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desert_nomad/32/177_2.png) [@Desert\_Nomad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desert_Nomad)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-offer-hillary-if-you-were-obama/451595/77 "2008-06-04T07:28:03Z")
A one way ticket to Mars. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-offer-hillary-if-you-were-obama/451595/78 "2008-06-04T07:56:46Z")
Nevermind what a nightmare it would be to have her as vice president; can you imagine what a nightmare it would be to have Bill Clinton as the husband of the vice president? Every week he’d be making headlines with one ridiculous comment after another, the two of them would be unmanagable and impossible to keep on message. ---
**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 9:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-offer-hillary-if-you-were-obama/451595/79 "2008-06-04T09:34:39Z")
[QUOTE=madmonk28] Nevermind what a nightmare it would be to have her as vice president; can you imagine what a nightmare it would be to have Bill Clinton as the husband of the vice president? Every week he’d be making headlines with one ridiculous comment after another, the two of them would be unmanagable and impossible to keep on message. [/QUOTE] The Clintons in campaign mode are completely different people than the Clintons in non-campaign mode. I’m not afraid of Hillary as vice president. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 10:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-offer-hillary-if-you-were-obama/451595/80 "2008-06-04T10:21:38Z")
[QUOTE=Mosier] The Clintons in campaign mode are completely different people than the Clintons in non-campaign mode. [/QUOTE] She has apparently decided to be in campaign mode permanently. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-offer-hillary-if-you-were-obama/451595.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-would-you-offer-hillary-if-you-were-obama/451595.md?page=5)