# WhatarejegonnaDO? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 21, 2017, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatarejegonnado/777700 "2017-01-21T09:37:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatarejegonnado/777700/21 "2017-01-21T21:41:22Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I think it’s important that when the history of the next four years is written, people will look back and say the country quickly recognized its mistake . . . It’s probably going to take some time before all the suckers who voted for Trump will realize they’ve been had. His continual emission of bullshit will keep them complacent. [See above.] By the time they do realize, Trump and his elite cronies from Goldman-Sachs, et al, will have laughed their way to the bank and back. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatarejegonnado/777700/22 "2017-01-22T01:38:34Z")
> [@Fiveyearlurker](#): > > (…) > [@Ulfreida](#): > > (…) So far: 2 (two) replies of people who care & are taking action. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatarejegonnado/777700/23 "2017-01-22T01:45:26Z")
> [@UberArchetype](#): > > A little late to the “intiative” party, methinks. :rolleyes: ??? I’m too late to prevent this president from taking office, I know. What’s you point? ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatarejegonnado/777700/24 "2017-01-22T01:49:23Z")
There have been several reports from items in this thread. On the one hand, my first inclination was to treat it as a rant and send it to the Pit but I do think there can be discussion about the merits and demerits of actions taken or desired. Please keep the discussion to specific substantive things rather than sniping about Obama is the best/worst or Trump is the best/worst or even Clinton is the best/worst. [/moderating] ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatarejegonnado/777700/25 "2017-01-22T02:50:32Z")
So, I ain’t gonna run. Just ain’t. But I’m gonna donate more to folks who run, and to the ACLU, and to Planned Parenthood. I’m gonna solo-parent the kids a few times a month so my wife can volunteer with League of Women Voters. I’m gonna march. I’m not gonna teach my students that Trump is an orange fascist, but I am gonna (for example) teach them who John Lewis is, so that when they hear about Trump’s Twitter fits, they’ll have the knowledge they need to contextualize them. I’ll do more as I figure it out. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatarejegonnado/777700/26 "2017-01-22T03:21:29Z")
> [@Ulfreida](#): > > and gay rights, since my daughter and sister are both gay and will suffer directly. How, exactly, do you think they will suffer? ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 9:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatarejegonnado/777700/27 "2017-01-22T09:34:53Z")
> [@The\_Librarian](#): > > … in 2 years Trump is facing a solidly democrat congress and senate.) There’s virtually no chance of the Senate flipping to the Dems in 2018. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatarejegonnado/777700/28 "2017-01-22T15:17:57Z")
And the Titanic was unsinkable. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatarejegonnado/777700/29 "2017-01-22T15:36:23Z")
I’ve donated to Planned Parenthood and joined the ACLU, and am looking for volunteer opportunities with the ACLU and other organizations. I’ve also subscribed to the digital editions of the Washington Post and New York Times and need to subscribe to the Houston Cubicle, I’m hoping a motivated press will keep people informed. I’m also going to do more with the Interfaith Ministries organization here, I think it’s important for individual people to come together. And it’s a bit too early now, but closer to mid terms I’m going to be encouraging people to register and vote, maybe hosting parties with registrations, maybe setting up a table somewhere, I’m not sure. > [@D\_Anconia](#): > > How, exactly, do you think they will suffer? I don’t know how specifically LGBT people will suffer, and I don’t think Trump is personally anti gay rights, but Pence very much is and too many members of Congress are, so it’s definitely possible that gay rights could be chipped away at. And at the very least there’s zero hope of progress in the next four years. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatarejegonnado/777700/30 "2017-01-22T15:49:53Z")
I subscribed to the online wdition of the Washington Post, and will seethe with anger (for the first time) when I pay my taxes. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatarejegonnado/777700/31 "2017-01-22T15:52:11Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > There’s virtually no chance of the Senate flipping to the Dems in 2018. There was virtually no chance of Trump being elected. We’re in uncharted waters. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatarejegonnado/777700/32 "2017-01-22T16:12:26Z")
I didn’t vote for team Orange this time and if, God forbid, Trump still around in 2020, I won’t vote for him then. Other than that, we’ll see, once the administration has had a chance to really get going. For example, it seems increasingly likely that the new administration is setting itself up to carry out some sort of suppressive action against the press, and I expect I’ll be out protesting such action if or when that occurs. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatarejegonnado/777700/33 "2017-01-22T16:27:53Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > I didn’t vote for team Orange this time and if, God forbid, Trump still around in 2020, I won’t vote for him then. > > Other than that, we’ll see, once the administration has had a chance to really get going. For example, it seems increasingly likely that the new administration is setting itself up to carry out some sort of suppressive action against the press, and I expect I’ll be out protesting such action if or when that occurs. I’d encourage anyone worried about the freedom of the press to financially support good journalism outlets and the ACLU, doesn’t have to be a huge amount of money. The ACLU has been gearing up for a fight and can always use more support. And any newspaper (offline or on) will better be able to fight suppression if they have money to do so. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatarejegonnado/777700/34 "2017-01-22T16:58:35Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > We’re going to enjoy a Presidency led by someone who is not a raving Marxist, for one thing. We’re going to enjoy a Presidency led by someone who is pro-America, not anti-America. > In short…We’re going to enjoy a Presidency led by a real President, not an incompetent puppet who had George Soros’ hand up his ass. 1. Obama wasn’t a Marxist, raving or otherwise. 2. Obama was certainly pro-America. 3. Obama wasn’t a puppet of Soros, while Trump is very possibly a puppet of Putin. In other words, nearly everything you said about this issue is the result of false information. This isn’t a good thing, IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatarejegonnado/777700/35 "2017-01-22T17:28:38Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > And the Titanic was unsinkable. > [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > There was virtually no chance of Trump being elected. We’re in uncharted waters. I suppose it’s mathematically possible. It’s going to require Democrats to go above and beyond in supporting people like Joe Manchin and Heidi Heitkamp, who are going to spend the next two years infuriating their base by running far to the right of the rest of the party. Do you think they’re in the mood for that? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatarejegonnado/777700/36 "2017-01-22T17:37:17Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > I suppose it’s mathematically possible. It’s going to require Democrats to go above and beyond in supporting people like Joe Manchin and Heidi Heitkamp, who are going to spend the next two years infuriating their base by running far to the right of the rest of the party. Do you think they’re in the mood for that? A “move to the right” will just alienate the left – it would hurt the Democrats’ chances to win. The left is not inconsiderable, and if they’re pissed off enough they’ll start a third party or something. The Democrats just need decent candidates and campaigns. That’s how Obama won, easily, in 08 and 12. And they need much more and better focus on House and state and local elections. Things can change fast, as we’ve just seen. ---
**Author:** ![Sam\_Lowry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@Sam\_Lowry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Lowry)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatarejegonnado/777700/37 "2017-01-22T19:16:36Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > The Democrats just need decent candidates and campaigns. That’s how Obama won, easily, in 08 and 12. And they need much more and better focus on House and state and local elections. Things can change fast, as we’ve just seen. Regarding the House, one of my friends on Facebook posted [this link for Swing Left](https://swingleft.org/), which is targeting swing districts, and lets you find your closest one, and sign up for ways to help swing the district. I’m sure not every district will be swung but it could help with some of them. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatarejegonnado/777700/38 "2017-01-22T22:43:44Z")
> [@The\_Librarian](#): > > So, dear Amercan (sic) dopers, you elected by disinterest and incompetence the president from hell. sic added by me. Uh, speak for yourself. I’ve been barking out loud, here and in public, my opposition. I can’t help that there is a large number of rubes in a certain subset of states that swung the election to the self-involved, constantly mendacious boor who is now at the wheel. My state denied the small-handed one by the largest margin in the nation, and is already mobilizing to fight changes he’s going to try to perpetrate upon us. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2017, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatarejegonnado/777700/39 "2017-01-22T23:52:14Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > I suppose it’s mathematically possible. It’s going to require Democrats to go above and beyond in supporting people like Joe Manchin and Heidi Heitkamp, who are going to spend the next two years infuriating their base by running far to the right of the rest of the party. Do you think they’re in the mood for that? Isn’t it sweet for conservatives to offer Democrats the advice to run far to the right in order to win votes? I mean, granted, that’s sort of what the Tea Party did: rather than engage in muddling politics-as-usual, they encouraged folks with no experience or conventional credentials to run for office. They encouraged folks who thought their views too extreme for Washington to run. When they got their base energized, they took over. Democrats can’t compete on the far-right front, of course, but it’s super-kind of you to offer us that advice anyway. If only we look more like the Republicans who lost to Trump, surely we’ll win next time! ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2017, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatarejegonnado/777700/40 "2017-01-23T07:48:41Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > A “move to the right” will just alienate the left – it would hurt the Democrats’ chances to win. The left is not inconsiderable, and if they’re pissed off enough they’ll start a third party or something. > > The Democrats just need decent candidates and campaigns. That’s how Obama won, easily, in 08 and 12. And they need much more and better focus on House and state and local elections. Things can change fast, as we’ve just seen. > [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Isn’t it sweet for conservatives to offer Democrats the advice to run far to the right in order to win votes? I mean, granted, that’s sort of what the Tea Party did: rather than engage in muddling politics-as-usual, they encouraged folks with no experience or conventional credentials to run for office. They encouraged folks who thought their views too extreme for Washington to run. When they got their base energized, they took over. > > Democrats can’t compete on the far-right front, of course, but it’s super-kind of you to offer us that advice anyway. If only we look more like the Republicans who lost to Trump, surely we’ll win next time! My point went completely over both your heads. I didn’t say the party as a whole should move to the right, I said some Dem elected officials in deep-red states (I offered the examples of Joe Manchin and Heidi Heitkamp) are going to run far to the right “of the rest of the party”. They won’t turn into conservatives, but they’ll be more moderate Dems, at a time when the Dem party is pissed and doesn’t seem to want moderation. I wasn’t even suggesting / recommending that they do, just acknowledging the reality that they will, and it won’t sit well with progressives in the Dem party. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatarejegonnado/777700.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatarejegonnado/777700.md?page=3)