# WhatarejegonnaDO? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 21, 2017, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatarejegonnado/777700 "2017-01-21T09:37:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2017, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatarejegonnado/777700/61 "2017-01-23T20:40:50Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > Do it man! Orrin Hatch’s opponent will be delighted with the campaign contributions. Hurricane, out of curiosity, what are YOU gonna do? I mean, unless you genuinely expect Trump to govern in a reasonable, competent manner (I can’t believe I typed that with a straight face); unless you believe this is a healthy outcome for our nation; unless you believe that the next four years are likely to be the best we can do. Unless that’s your situation, what are YOU gonna do to make things better? ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2017, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatarejegonnado/777700/62 "2017-01-23T20:47:39Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Hurricane, out of curiosity, what are YOU gonna do? I mean, unless you genuinely expect Trump to govern in a reasonable, competent manner (I can’t believe I typed that with a straight face); unless you believe this is a healthy outcome for our nation; unless you believe that the next four years are likely to be the best we can do. Unless that’s your situation, what are YOU gonna do to make things better? I stated this in another thread, but I intend to spend the next four or eight years lobbying for issues that are important to me. In some cases, that’ll be letters / emails / phone calls to my representatives, in other cases it’ll be contributions to organizations that focus on those areas. On some of these areas, I expect to make a great deal of progress (RKBA, for one prominent example). I’m certainly not going to love every decision Trump makes, but I see some areas where his stated policy position, or the positions of his appointees, probably lines up fairly well with what I’d like to happen, so I’ll probably focus my resources in those areas. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2017, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatarejegonnado/777700/63 "2017-01-23T20:57:34Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > I stated this in another thread, but I intend to spend the next four or eight years lobbying for issues that are important to me. In some cases, that’ll be letters / emails / phone calls to my representatives, in other cases it’ll be contributions to organizations that focus on those areas. On some of these areas, I expect to make a great deal of progress (RKBA, for one prominent example). > > I’m certainly not going to love every decision Trump makes, but I see some areas where his stated policy position, or the positions of his appointees, probably lines up fairly well with what I’d like to happen, so I’ll probably focus my resources in those areas. Fair enough. And there are areas where I have some agreement with him, possibly, e.g., infrastructure that doesn’t involve massive walls. I’ll support him if he handles those issues responsibly. But folks who disagree with him on so much aren’t going to go home quietly. Sure, things look grim right now, really fucking grim, but the alternative to not engaging in a hopeless fight is to admit defeat, and there’s no percentage in that either. ---
**Author:** ![Baal\_Houtham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baal_houtham/32/13604_2.png) [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2017, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatarejegonnado/777700/64 "2017-01-23T21:15:21Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > I can’t think of a single politician, party, or activist group that I feel strongly enough about donating to that i’d be willing to suspend my retirement savings or debt payments. The Visa bill will get less than I was planning each month, so there will be some additional interest, but no other penalty fees. The retirement savings? Trump is a wild card who could fuck up my – and maybe everyone’s – retirement. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2017, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatarejegonnado/777700/65 "2017-01-23T21:27:14Z")
Regardless, even if we should fall shy of the short-term goal, the fight **does not end**. Ever. Sorry to those who think we should just meekly welcome our new Republican overlords, headed by the caricature of their every shortcoming. ---
**Author:** ![UberArchetype](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/2bfe46/32.png) [@UberArchetype](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UberArchetype)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatarejegonnado/777700/66 "2017-01-24T18:50:24Z")
> [@Baal\_Houtham](#): > > My credit card bill and my retirement fund will get put on hold for awhile, because I don’t want to live in a world of “alternative facts.” Great example of the overall Democratic attitude towards budget and fiscal responsibility. :rolleyes: Income disparity will eventually become a non-issue If enough low-income people contribute enough of their money to causes that do them no good. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatarejegonnado/777700/67 "2017-01-24T19:23:56Z")
> [@UberArchetype](#): > > Income disparity will eventually become a non-issue If enough low-income people contribute enough of their money to causes that do them no good. What, specifically, are you thinking about here? Buying “Make America Great Again” hats that were made in China? Donating to a candidate who’s going to make health care even more expensive? Joining a prosperity Christianity church? Please give us some examples. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2017, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatarejegonnado/777700/68 "2017-01-24T20:39:11Z")
> [@UberArchetype](#): > > Great example of the overall Democratic attitude towards budget and fiscal responsibility. :rolleyes: > > Income disparity will eventually become a non-issue If enough low-income people contribute enough of their money to causes that do them no good. Great example of the overall Republican attitude of sticking one’s nose into business which is not theirs in the first place. Of course, you haven’t tried to legislate against it yet, which is a leg up on the GOP. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatarejegonnado/777700/69 "2017-01-25T00:38:21Z")
Surprised he hasn’t posted here yet, so I hope **Happy Lendervedder** doesn’t mind me posting his contribution from GE: > [@So what is the womens' march supposed to accomplish?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/so-what-is-the-womens-march-supposed-to-accomplish/777822/14): > > Well speaking personally, I saw a lot of groups doing outreach at the local event yesterday. Myself, I work for a local labor federation, and was gathering emails and flyering for an upcoming organizing roundtable (“Trump is our president; now what do we do?”). Our goal is to really expand our tent beyond union members over the next six months-- get people who don’t belong to, or have never even considered working with, a union to walk through our doors. We’ll be training potential candidates for local office. Partnering with churches and faith groups to put pressure on politicians around issues as they come up. And directing our people to commit to serving at food pantries, women’s organizations, migrant service organizations, youth mentoring programs, etc. > > What we’re hoping to accomplish around the excitement from yesterday: Keep people engaged around serving in areas that matter to them; partner with other groups to lobby; prepare progressive candidates for local and state-wide office. Hopefully things similar to this are happening elsewhere. Myself, this Canuck will at least try to keep up with everything. I’m starting to chide compatriots now whenever I hear their tiring “well at least we live in Canada” line that’s increasingly wearing thin on me. I tell them we shouldn’t really be so ducky complacent about this - there could be at least economic ramifications in these murky, unpredictable times. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatarejegonnado/777700/70 "2017-01-25T03:44:26Z")
> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > > [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > > > There’s virtually no chance of the Senate flipping to the Dems in 2018. > > There was virtually no chance of the House flipping to the Republicans in 1994, either. And two years ago there was virtually no chance Donald Trump would be POTUS. ---
**Author:** ![Gukumatz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/74df32/32.png) [@Gukumatz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gukumatz)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatarejegonnado/777700/71 "2017-01-25T08:00:53Z")
I’m not an American and can’t directly affect what’s going on over there. But Trump’s election has been a timely kick in the ass for me, so I’m dedicating the next two years to union work. Unionization is the most efficient way to fight wage inequality, it’s usually the _only_ tangible way for non-politicians to do so and membership doesn’t require the kind of commitment that party politics and judicial activism does. We’ve seen where the US went after Reagan and where the UK went after Thatcher, in terms of income inequality, and it’s not somewhere I want my country to go. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 8:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatarejegonnado/777700/72 "2017-01-25T08:02:47Z")
I convinced all the other trainees in my department (all two of them) to join the local union. Union dues aren’t free, but they aren’t much to help ensure that the most powerful organization that indisputably has our side stays strong. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2017, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatarejegonnado/777700/73 "2017-01-25T12:07:08Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > You know Clothy, **you’re just so elated that the liberals you hate so much are going to have to eat crap for the next four years** that you’re totally forgetting you’re going to be eating it, too. From where I sit, that’s what’s on the minds of Trump voters post-election. Trump and the GOP’s early actions seem to reinforce the idea that many of the policies over the next few years will be an attempt to remove all traces of Obama’s legacy, regardless of whether voters in their own states and districts are tangibly benefiting from it. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatarejegonnado/777700/74 "2017-02-03T07:46:34Z")
Euhm… I hate to tell you guys this but it seems that to prevent the American presidency becoming hereritary you might have to be more active in the coming months. Say what you will, he’s not sitting on his hands. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatarejegonnado/777700/75 "2017-02-03T08:06:24Z")
> [@The\_Librarian](#): > > Euhm… > > I hate to tell you guys this but it seems that to prevent the American presidency becoming hereritary you might have to be more active in the coming months. Say what you will, he’s not sitting on his hands. Hereritary? Like an inheritance? Like passed from father to son (or daughter)? That’s really your top concern of the day? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatarejegonnado/777700/76 "2017-02-03T10:42:48Z")
I was using it as a shorthand for a Russia style “democracy” where the leadership changes so seldom it might as well a kingdom. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatarejegonnado/777700/77 "2017-02-03T19:03:10Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > We’re going to enjoy a Presidency led by someone who is not a raving Marxist, for one thing. We’re going to enjoy a Presidency led by someone who is pro-America, not anti-America. > In short…We’re going to enjoy a Presidency led by a real President, not an incompetent puppet who had George Soros’ hand up his ass. I agree it’s nice not to have a President who’s a raving Marxist or anti-American. But I feel we’ve achieved that all along. And while George Soros might not be involved, I feel Trump falls into the bottom ten percent of Presidents on the competence scale. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2017, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatarejegonnado/777700/78 "2017-02-04T02:27:29Z")
Let’s see…45 presidents…yep, Trump is safely in the bottom two percent. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatarejegonnado/777700.md?page=3)