# Whatcha Readin' Oct 2012 Edition

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 30, 2012, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatcha-readin-oct-2012-edition/636309 "2012-09-30T12:40:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Dante](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dante/32/9673_2.png) [@Dante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dante)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2012, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatcha-readin-oct-2012-edition/636309/181 "2012-10-29T17:36:50Z")

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In anticipation of the release of the final Wheel of Time book, [A Memory of Light](http://www.amazon.com/A-Memory-Light-Wheel-Time/dp/0765325950), I’m re-reading (maybe for the last time…?), the entire series. I’m on [Winter’s Heart](http://www.amazon.com/Winters-Heart-Wheel-Time-Book/dp/B000062UIH/ref=pd_sim_b_28) right now.

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**Author:** ![DZedNConfused](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dzednconfused/32/15991_2.png) [@DZedNConfused](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DZedNConfused)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2012, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatcha-readin-oct-2012-edition/636309/182 "2012-10-29T23:34:40Z")

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Finished\*\* "The Alehouse Murders \*\* by Maureen Ash and ended up liking it more than I thought I would. It wasn’t terribly deep but the main character was enjoyable.

I’m trying to quickly finish **The Kill Artist** by Daniel Silva. I started it in July and set it down. It’s good and reads well but I was expecting a mystery for some reason not International Espionage…and the whole Arab-Israeli thing is such a mess. It’s hard to cheer for a team that is, in many ways, as dirty as the enemy.

Once that’s done I have **The Inventor and the Tycoon: A Gilded Age Murder and the Birth of Moving Pictures** by Edward Ball lined up. I won it through Goodreads and being an amateur photographer I’m interested in things pertaining to Eadward Muybridge.

> **[The Inventor and the Tycoon: A Gilded Age Murder and th…](https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/12786118-the-inventor-and-the-tycoon)**
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> From the National Book Award-winning author of Slaves i…

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2012, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatcha-readin-oct-2012-edition/636309/183 "2012-10-30T00:12:49Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> Try his Lincoln Lawyer series featuring Bosch’s defense-attorney half-brother.

I read “Lincoln Lawyer”, but didn’t realize there were more.

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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2012, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatcha-readin-oct-2012-edition/636309/184 "2012-10-30T01:15:15Z")

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Searching for something cheap in bed last night and found [Bill the Vampire](http://www.amazon.com/Bill-The-Vampire-Tome-ebook/dp/B0058I8A6K) by Rick Gualtieri. A 24-year-old nerd-type encounters a hot chick on the subway and is invited to a party in SoHo. “What time does it start?” “Oh, show up any time after dark.”

It’s way better than I thought it would be. Not quite on par with _Bloodsucking Fiends_ by Christopher Moore, but close. The author skips the whole “Vampires don’t exist, I can’t be a vampire” denial which usually begins this kind of story. It’s refreshing.

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**Author:** ![DZedNConfused](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dzednconfused/32/15991_2.png) [@DZedNConfused](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DZedNConfused)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2012, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatcha-readin-oct-2012-edition/636309/185 "2012-10-30T01:54:07Z")

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> [@AuntiePam](#):
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> Searching for something cheap in bed last night

We ARE still talking about literature here, aren’t we?

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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2012, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatcha-readin-oct-2012-edition/636309/186 "2012-10-30T02:34:41Z")

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We’re still talking literature. 🙂 (More’s the pity.)

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2012, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatcha-readin-oct-2012-edition/636309/187 "2012-10-30T02:44:08Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> I read “Lincoln Lawyer”, but didn’t realize there were more.

Yes, there are four now, with Bosch even co-appearing in the second and third ones. (Haller discovers their relation in the second one.) You can find them listed [here](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Connelly).

And apparently there’s also a Jack McEvoy series, an FBI agent whom I’ve seen pop up very briefly in some of the other books. That one I’ve not read any of though.

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**Author:** ![Invisible\_Chimp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@Invisible\_Chimp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Invisible_Chimp)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2012, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatcha-readin-oct-2012-edition/636309/188 "2012-10-30T21:36:41Z")

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Just finished Depths: Concrete Vol. 1 by Paul Chadwick. It is a graphic novel collection of early Concrete comics. Concrete was a man put into a concrete like body by aliens. He doesn’t use his new super body to fight crime however, instead he goes on adventures: climbs mountains, spelunks caves, swim oceans, etc. I have Heights: Concrete Vol. 2, but I’m not going to read that next, but I am looking forward to it.

I’m also almost done with Founding Brothers by Joseph J. Ellis. It is making me really dislike Thomas Jefferson, the subject of another of Ellis’ books, American Sphinx, which I haven’t read.

I’m also starting Larry Gonick’s Cartoon Guide to Chemistry. I’m only on page 60, but I’m already learning new stuff in addition to relearning stuff from high school. I also checked out his Cartoon Guide to Physics. My library has many of his Cartoon Guide series, but his one on statistics is one that is missing, to my dismay.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [October 30, 2012, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatcha-readin-oct-2012-edition/636309/189 "2012-10-30T21:55:23Z")

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> [@Invisible\_Chimp](#):
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> I’m also almost done with Founding Brothers by Joseph J. Ellis. It is making me really dislike Thomas Jefferson, the subject of another of Ellis’ books, American Sphinx, which I haven’t read.

That was exactly my takeaway from it, too.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatcha-readin-oct-2012-edition/636309/190 "2012-10-31T00:36:45Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> That was exactly my takeaway from it, too.

Ditto. Jefferson was a brilliant man and a talented wordsmith, but also a sneak, a liar and a hypocrite of the first order.

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**Author:** ![DZedNConfused](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dzednconfused/32/15991_2.png) [@DZedNConfused](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DZedNConfused)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatcha-readin-oct-2012-edition/636309/191 "2012-10-31T00:59:36Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Ditto. Jefferson was a brilliant man and a talented wordsmith, but also a sneak, a liar and a hypocrite of the first order.

I think I will stay away then.. _sigh_ Not all of my heroes have to have feet of clay, do they?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatcha-readin-oct-2012-edition/636309/192 "2012-10-31T13:20:14Z")

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> [@DZedNConfused](#):
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> I think I will stay away then.. _sigh_ Not all of my heroes have to have feet of clay, do they?

Certainly not. The more I read about George Washington, Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain, Nelson Mandela and Neil Armstrong, for instance, the more I find to admire.

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**Author:** ![DZedNConfused](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dzednconfused/32/15991_2.png) [@DZedNConfused](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DZedNConfused)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatcha-readin-oct-2012-edition/636309/193 "2012-10-31T15:14:00Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Certainly not. The more I read about George Washington, Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain, Nelson Mandela and Neil Armstrong, for instance, the more I find to admire.

I will bear that in mind and look for more info.

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**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatcha-readin-oct-2012-edition/636309/194 "2012-10-31T17:21:53Z")

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[November’s Thread.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=15647348#post15647348)

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**Author:** ![Invisible\_Chimp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@Invisible\_Chimp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Invisible_Chimp)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatcha-readin-oct-2012-edition/636309/195 "2012-10-31T17:28:51Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Certainly not. The more I read about George Washington, Joshua Lawrence Chamberlain, Nelson Mandela and Neil Armstrong, for instance, the more I find to admire.

George Washington is the only person who comes out of Founding Brothers completely unscathed.

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**Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatcha-readin-oct-2012-edition/636309/196 "2012-10-31T18:04:59Z")

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And speaking of admirable men, I am reading _Grant: The Man Who Won The Civil War_ by Robin Neillands and its quite good.

I just finished \*Undefeated: Inside The Miami Dolphins 1972 Season \*by Mike Freeman and I really enjoyed the insight into Don Shula the man and the coach.

I also recently heard that _Team Of Rivals_ is going to be made into a movie. Can’t wait.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatcha-readin-oct-2012-edition/636309/197 "2012-10-31T18:35:58Z")

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> [@DZedNConfused](#):
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> I will bear that in mind and look for more info.

Then may I suggest:

_Founding Father: Rediscovering George Washington_ by Richard Brookhiser - An excellent short introduction to the first President.

_In the Hands of Providence_ by Alice Rains Trulock - Very good bio of Chamberlain, a hero of Gettysburg.

_Long Walk to Freedom_ - Mandela’s autobiography. The 1996 documentary _Mandela_, produced by Jonathan Demme, is also quite good.

_First Man_ by James R. Hansen - Haven’t read this Neil Armstrong bio, but I hear it’s good.

> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> …I also recently heard that _Team Of Rivals_ is going to be made into a movie. Can’t wait.

Steven Spielberg bought the rights to _Team of Rivals_, but his upcoming movie _Lincoln_, starring Daniel Day-Lewis, has a much narrower focus on the last few months of the President’s life.

> **[Lincoln (film)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_(2012_film))**
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> Lincoln is a 2012 American biographical historical drama film directed and produced by Steven Spielberg, starring Daniel Day-Lewis as United States President Abraham Lincoln. It features Sally Field, David Strathairn, Joseph Gordon-Levitt, James Spader, Hal Holbrook, and Tommy Lee Jones in supporting roles. The screenplay by Tony Kushner was loosely based on Doris Kearns Goodwin's 2005 biography Team of Rivals: The Political Genius of Abraham Lincoln and covers the final four months of Lincol...

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**Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatcha-readin-oct-2012-edition/636309/198 "2012-10-31T19:13:46Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Steven Spielberg bought the rights to _Team of Rivals_, but his upcoming movie _Lincoln_, starring Daniel Day-Lewis, has a much narrower focus on the last few months of the President’s life.
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> [Lincoln (film) - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_(2012_film))

Ah, then that’s significantly different then. I will still go see it though.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatcha-readin-oct-2012-edition/636309/199 "2012-10-31T19:22:28Z")

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> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#):
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> Ah, then that’s significantly different then. I will still go see it though.

As will I, eagerly. Here are two trailers:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/qiSAbAuLhqs?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque  
https://www.youtube.com/embed/F_PfTl63qQQ?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2012, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatcha-readin-oct-2012-edition/636309/200 "2012-10-31T20:09:50Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> As will I, eagerly. Here are two trailers:
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> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiSAbAuLhqs&feature=endscreen&NR=1](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiSAbAuLhqs&feature=endscreen&NR=1)  
> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F\_PfTl63qQQ](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_PfTl63qQQ)

Lacks vampires. So, unhistorical.  
😉

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