# Whatcha reading Dec. (08) edition

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 30, 2008, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatcha-reading-dec-08-edition/475075 "2008-11-30T18:22:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatcha-reading-dec-08-edition/475075/161 "2008-12-26T03:40:28Z")

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Finished _Angels & Demons_, by Dan Brown. I liked it. There’s a lot of animosity toward Dan Brown, which I’m sure causes him to cry all the way to the bank, but this was a fun read. Some people take him too seriously. This one has Robert Langdon of _The Da Vinci Code_ fame three years later in a plot involving a revived Illuminati bent on destroying Vatican City.

But now it’s back to Great Literature. Today, I begin _Winesburg, Ohio_, by Sherwood Anderson.

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**Author:** ![TheMerchandise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b487fb/32.png) [@TheMerchandise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheMerchandise)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatcha-reading-dec-08-edition/475075/162 "2008-12-26T13:55:15Z")

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Oh my goodness, I got so many great books for Christmas! I am speeding through my current book because I can’t wait to pick one of them up.

I think I might just get a chance to crack open \* The Story of Edgar Sawtelle\* before the start of the new year.

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**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatcha-reading-dec-08-edition/475075/163 "2008-12-26T15:13:18Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> I don’t want anyone to feel like I’m disparaging what they’re reading, so I tend to avoid commenting negatively most of the time unless it’s someone I know will take my comments in a good way or if someone asks for feedback.
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> **Does that make sense or do I need to rethink my approach? Khadaji, you start the threads. What is your intent?**

I hope I’m not the final arbiter. These are our threads, I just like to start them. Having said that: I too often hold back from making negative comments, because I don’t want other posters to feel like I’m disparaging them, or their tastes in books. But I think my intent is for us to share our opinions, so that other dopers can figure out if they want to read a book.

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**Author:** ![Student\_Driver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3da27b/32.png) [@Student\_Driver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Student_Driver)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatcha-reading-dec-08-edition/475075/164 "2008-12-26T15:42:19Z")

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Not to interrupt the discussion…

I’m in the middle of a business history of a now-defunct computer company: _On the Edge: The Spectacular Rise and Fall of Commodore_ by Brian Bagnall. Interesting stuff to anyone who was into computers in the 1980s; I’ve noticed a bit of revisionism going on over the last few years, excluding Tandy and Commodore (and to a lesser extent Atari) from US personal computing history in favor of Apple, despite Tandy and Commodore being more successful than Apple at the beginning, and the Commodore 64 being the most popular computer platform until the late 1980s (and the most popular single computer model of all time). It’s also interesting because Jack Tramiel, the force behind Commodore’s success, is the guy who ran Atari into the ground after buying it from Warner Bros, so getting a behind-the-scenes look at just how ruthless he was is fun.

I do get the sense that the author overstates the case for Commodore overall, but it’s nice to have something to balance the many books that assume Apple invented the industry.

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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatcha-reading-dec-08-edition/475075/165 "2008-12-26T15:52:25Z")

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Today I’m starting _Child 44_ by Rob Smith. It’s about a serial killer in Soviet Russia.

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**Author:** ![wonderlust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonderlust/32/7237_2.png) [@wonderlust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonderlust)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatcha-reading-dec-08-edition/475075/166 "2008-12-26T17:00:01Z")

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I’m reading my first book by Dean Koontz, _Odd Thomas_, and I’m entranced. Some people criticize his writing, but I’m loving how he sets the mood.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatcha-reading-dec-08-edition/475075/167 "2008-12-26T17:50:40Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Just finished reading for the first time the first two books in the Dresden Files, _Storm Front_ and _Fool Moon_; I’ll have to pick up the rest of the series as the local library doesn’t have them. And the first book in his Furies series, since they don’t have that either.

And guess what I got for Christmas ? Four Dresden books and the first book in his Furies series. I’m reading the Dresden ones right now.

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**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatcha-reading-dec-08-edition/475075/168 "2008-12-26T17:59:24Z")

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> [@wonderlust](#):
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> I’m reading my first book by Dean Koontz, _Odd Thomas_, and I’m entranced. Some people criticize his writing, but I’m loving how he sets the mood.

I really enjoyed the first one. The last one was only OK, but I will probably continue reading the series. I’ll look forward to hearing what you thought.

I finished _The Black Hand_, the latest in the A Barker & Llewelyn Novel series. I have mentioned the series several times so I’ll just say that I enjoyed it.

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**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatcha-reading-dec-08-edition/475075/169 "2008-12-26T18:03:31Z")

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**Traitor to his Class; the Privileged Life and Radical Presidency of FDR** by HW Brands.

I recommend it.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatcha-reading-dec-08-edition/475075/170 "2008-12-26T19:29:44Z")

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> [@Student\_Driver](#):
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> …I do get the sense that the author overstates the case for Commodore overall, but it’s nice to have something to balance the many books that assume Apple invented the industry.

How does Wang factor into all that, in your opinion?

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**Author:** ![Student\_Driver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3da27b/32.png) [@Student\_Driver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Student_Driver)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatcha-reading-dec-08-edition/475075/171 "2008-12-27T00:32:19Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> How does Wang factor into all that, in your opinion?

Wang was pretty big in the office/business minicomputer market, was a big part of the computerization of small business, and IMO was as important as WordStar in establishing word processors as a necessity. (I used to have a huge desk-sized Wang word processor/minicomputer with a crock-pot-sized hard drive; released around the same time, interestingly enough, as the TRS-80 Model I and Commodore PET 2001), but they made no splash at all in the home microcomputer market where Apple and Commodore thrived.

Overall impact about as much as Osborne, though much better run as a company.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatcha-reading-dec-08-edition/475075/172 "2008-12-27T01:57:32Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> And guess what I got for Christmas ? Four Dresden books and the first book in his Furies series. I’m reading the Dresden ones right now.

I’m envious of those who got books, especially good books.

My husband always gets me a huge stack of books for Christmas. I count on it.

This year? None. I’m so disappointed.

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**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatcha-reading-dec-08-edition/475075/173 "2008-12-27T02:05:54Z")

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Just started _Heart Shaped Box_ by Joe Hill. Joe Hill is the sun of Stephen King and this is every bit as creepy as anything I have ever read by King. I got it for Christmas a year ago, but I no longer read these kinds of books and it has sat here for quite a while. Today I decided I should give it a try, someone thought of me when they bought it.

I am only 53 pages into it, but it reminds me of King’s _Thinner_. Not in plot mind you; but in the creepy feel it has has.

I’m not sure I’m going to love it, I enjoy this genre much less than I did in my youth; but I will recommend it to fans of a good fright.

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**Author:** ![vison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/e47774/32.png) [@vison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vison)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatcha-reading-dec-08-edition/475075/174 "2008-12-27T02:19:51Z")

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I’m rereading The English Novel by Walter Allen. It’s an interesting sort of book but when we get to the Victorians and he keeps nattering on about how much of a genius Thackeray was and then goes on to say what all critics say: Thackeray was a genius but he only wrote one really good book, which was Vanity Fair, I get annoyed because if Thackeray was so bloody superior to Anthony Trollope, why is it that the only Thackeray novel anyone ever reads any more is Vanity Fair but Trollope just rolls on and on? (I’m a Trollope fan and not a Thackeray fan, in case you couldn’t guess.)

Then we get to Thomas Hardy and here Mr. Allen and I agree, Thomas Hardy was a great novelist even though he did everything wrong.

This amity between Mr. Allen and me dies very fast when we get to Henry James, though. If a stupider girl ever existed than Isobel Archer I don’t know who she could have been. Generally a character upon whom a whole novel rests is a character who learns something, but I can’t see that Isobel Archer learned anything beyond disliking the man she chose to marry - and that was the stupidest thing she did out of a list of stupid things. I have toiled through Portrait of a Lady twice, searching for the reason this is called a Great Novel - and all it does is bore and annoy me even more than War and Peace annoyed me. I do not like Henry James and I confess that I do not like the Great Russians, either. This is a failing on my part, I know, but at my age I am not about to mend my ways.

For lighter reading, The Pickwick Papers, and the last volume of Kristin Lavransdattir.

I have not read Enders Game, but I guess I should since everyone recommends it so highly. Those people are the same people who like Stephen King and Dean Koontz, though, so I’m in no hurry.

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**Author:** ![Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a88e4f/32.png) [@Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleanor_of_Aquitaine)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatcha-reading-dec-08-edition/475075/175 "2008-12-27T03:26:31Z")

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> [@AuntiePam](#):
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> We need more posts like this, unless you all think negative opinions are inappropriate for a “What are you reading?” thread.
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> Are they? _Ender’s Game_ shows up here a lot, and before reading the last few posts, I thought it was a 100% Doper favorite.

I think negative comments are just as interesting as positive ones. It fascinates me that tastes vary so widely and inexplicably, and I’m not usually offended when someone disparages a book that I enjoyed. (I like _Ender’s Game_ and _Speaker for the Dead_, which I first read when I was a kid, but I don’t care for most of Card’s books.)

> [@wonderlust](#):
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> I’m reading my first book by Dean Koontz, _Odd Thomas_, and I’m entranced. Some people criticize his writing, but I’m loving how he sets the mood.

I really liked the first _Odd Thomas_ book, and was excited to discover a new author. But then the next one was not as appealing and I didn’t like the third one very much at all.  
Such a lovely stack of books I got for Christmas! I’ve started _Dissolution_, by C.J. Sansom: historical fiction set during the reign of Henry VIII, centering around the dissolution of the monasteries. A couple of chapters in and I’m impressed with the writing.

I also got _Lonesome Dove_, _Cloud Atlas_, _The Name of the Wind_, and _The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier & Clay_. I’m off work all next week and my kids will be spending the week with their grandparents, so I expect to get a lot of reading done.

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**Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatcha-reading-dec-08-edition/475075/176 "2008-12-27T04:13:49Z")

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Since Wednesday I’ve read:

Dead until Dark  
The Accidental Sorcerer  
Snow Flower & the Secret Fan  
The 2 John Bellairs books I listed upthread

and I am now on The Name of the Wind.

For the return flight to L.A. I have:

Living Dead in Dallas

The Glass Books of the Dream Eaters

and whatever is left of The Name of the Wind (thanks for the heads up on this one, Dopers)

This is all pretty light fare as I have a hard time concentrating on planes (fear of flying).

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**Author:** ![anu-la1979](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/47e85d/32.png) [@anu-la1979](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anu-la1979)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatcha-reading-dec-08-edition/475075/177 "2008-12-27T04:20:37Z")

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> [@Declan](#):
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> Its an okay book , I think that people reacted the way they do because of its release date in 85 it was probably one of the few adult scifi novels. Sort of like how on the beach became a seminal work to read for a lot of people back in the 60’s.
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> While its set on another planet which makes it scifi, I would think that you might like speaker for the dead better.
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> Declan

I don’t get the hype for Ender’s Game, either. It wasn’t awful or anything, it was just okay-maybe a B- for me.

But I have a deep and abiding love of most of Daphne DuMaurier’s work even though I know it’s all kind of trashy. I figure it’s the same for all the people who love Ender’s Game. It’s not like it’s super serious literature but they really dig the plot.

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**Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatcha-reading-dec-08-edition/475075/178 "2008-12-27T12:06:05Z")

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I finished _The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress_ and thoroughly enjoyed it.

Probably time to start on _Collapse_, I think…

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**Author:** ![Surok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@Surok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Surok)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatcha-reading-dec-08-edition/475075/179 "2008-12-27T12:16:29Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> I’m envious of those who got books, especially good books.
> 
> My husband always gets me a huge stack of books for Christmas. I count on it.
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> This year? None. I’m so disappointed.

It must have been some weird non-book Christmas. I always get books, and like you, I count on it.

This year? I got books. An art type book called ‘Women Who Read Are Dangerous’, a graphic novel version of the Bible, and the ‘Kung Fu Panda 2009 Annual’.

Go figure.

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**Post date:** [December 28, 2008, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whatcha-reading-dec-08-edition/475075/180 "2008-12-28T18:37:45Z")

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I sat up late Christmas night reading my BIL’s copy of _Into Thin Air_. I’m currently sitting atop an Appalachian and I can say with complete honesty that this is about as high up as I want to get. I’ll look at Mt. Everest and K2 and all those really tall mountains, but I think I’ll wait for erosion to bring the top of them to me. :eek:

I have a bag full of the current outcrop of Mt. ToBeRead (which is quite K2 like in proportion in its full incarnation) in my car. I’m also working on arranging my list of books read for the whole year so I don’t have to spend three hours cutting and pasting on the first. I’ll post a link here when I get it done.

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