# What's a well known (at least fairly well known) type of food or style of cuisine you've never, or only recently, tried? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** food-cooking\ **Created:** [January 17, 2022, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-a-well-known-at-least-fairly-well-known-type-of-food-or-style-of-cuisine-youve-never-or-only-recently-tried/957931 "2022-01-17T14:45:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2022, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-a-well-known-at-least-fairly-well-known-type-of-food-or-style-of-cuisine-youve-never-or-only-recently-tried/957931/201 "2022-01-21T06:05:05Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > I laughed out loud when one of my students (a Chinese gentleman) told the class that the food at his hotel was “fo’ shit.” He also said “Businessmen from the South of China are the most sexful.” 😆 ---
**Author:** ![SanVito](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sanvito/32/2805_2.png) [@SanVito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SanVito)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2022, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-a-well-known-at-least-fairly-well-known-type-of-food-or-style-of-cuisine-youve-never-or-only-recently-tried/957931/202 "2022-01-21T11:52:58Z")
> [@WildaBeast](#): > > Supposedly beef stroganoff is Russian in origin, but as I understand the typical American version is quite different from the original Russian version. How different could it be? There’s not much to it. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2022, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-a-well-known-at-least-fairly-well-known-type-of-food-or-style-of-cuisine-youve-never-or-only-recently-tried/957931/203 "2022-01-21T15:53:56Z")
A local (Toronto) TV chef makes it with paprika, which is more Hungarian than Russian, I think. Paprika is certainly not in the recipe I’ve always used. It can also be served over egg noodles or (traditionally, I’ve been told) rice. ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2022, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-a-well-known-at-least-fairly-well-known-type-of-food-or-style-of-cuisine-youve-never-or-only-recently-tried/957931/204 "2022-01-21T16:45:58Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > A local (Toronto) TV chef makes it with paprika, which is more Hungarian than Russian, I think. Paprika is certainly not in the recipe I’ve always used. It can also be served over egg noodles or (traditionally, I’ve been told) rice . Just from Googling and Wiki’ing … Stroganoff recipes commonly use a sour cream base, while a minority of more traditional recipes just use a healthy dollop dabbed on top of the finished sauce. Some recipes use tomato paste; most do not. Older versions of the recipe use prepared mustard. Older versions also lack onions and mushrooms; modern renditions typically have them. Regarding rice: The Wikipedia article on Beef Stroganoff shows a photo of the dish served over rice: [![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5f/Beef_Stroganoff-02_cropped.jpg) ](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5f/Beef_Stroganoff-02_cropped.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2022, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-a-well-known-at-least-fairly-well-known-type-of-food-or-style-of-cuisine-youve-never-or-only-recently-tried/957931/205 "2022-01-21T16:49:28Z")
Interesting. The recipe I use has both onions and mushrooms, but no tomato paste. The version my TV chef makes does have tomato paste. So there are indeed numerous variations. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2022, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-a-well-known-at-least-fairly-well-known-type-of-food-or-style-of-cuisine-youve-never-or-only-recently-tried/957931/206 "2022-01-21T16:49:58Z")
> [@bordelond](#): > > Regarding rice: The Wikipedia article on Beef Stroganoff shows a photo of the dish served over rice: That picture looks like neither beef nor Stroganoff. This picture farther down in the same article looks more like the Stroganoff I know (neither picture is exactly Instagram-ready, though): [![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/64/Beef_Stroganoff_on_Pasta.jpg/1280px-Beef_Stroganoff_on_Pasta.jpg) ](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/64/Beef_Stroganoff_on_Pasta.jpg/1280px-Beef_Stroganoff_on_Pasta.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2022, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-a-well-known-at-least-fairly-well-known-type-of-food-or-style-of-cuisine-youve-never-or-only-recently-tried/957931/207 "2022-01-21T16:53:16Z")
Given Russian passion for mushrooms, I’d expect a lot of Stroganoff recipes from there to contain them. I put a lot of mushrooms into my recipe, along with onions, butter, sour cream, and dill. Maybe I’ll experiment a bit with some mustard too. ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2022, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-a-well-known-at-least-fairly-well-known-type-of-food-or-style-of-cuisine-youve-never-or-only-recently-tried/957931/208 "2022-01-21T16:57:27Z")
> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#): > > Given Russian passion for mushrooms, I’d expect a lot of Stroganoff recipes from there to contain them. I put a lot of mushrooms into my recipe, along with onions, butter, sour cream, and dill. Maybe I’ll experiment a bit with some mustard too . Never used dill or mustard, but I’m intrigued to try them in Stroganoff. The sour cream can give a little bit of tang to the finished sauce … but I like the idea of “kicking up” the tang with dill or mustard. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2022, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-a-well-known-at-least-fairly-well-known-type-of-food-or-style-of-cuisine-youve-never-or-only-recently-tried/957931/209 "2022-01-21T16:59:12Z")
> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#): > > I put a lot of mushrooms into my recipe, along with onions, butter, sour cream, and dill. Hmm, dill is an interesting and unusual-seeming addiiton. I’m trying to imagine what Stroganoff would taste like with the usual ingredients plus dill, and not quite getting there in my mind. Mustard I can kind of imagine what it would taste like in the mix, but not dill. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2022, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-a-well-known-at-least-fairly-well-known-type-of-food-or-style-of-cuisine-youve-never-or-only-recently-tried/957931/210 "2022-01-21T17:07:30Z")
> [@solost](#): > > Hmm, dill is an interesting and unusual-seeming addiiton A little googling shows me a LOT of recipes for Stroganoff calling for dill, so it doesn’t seem real uncommon. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2022, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-a-well-known-at-least-fairly-well-known-type-of-food-or-style-of-cuisine-youve-never-or-only-recently-tried/957931/211 "2022-01-21T17:09:54Z")
> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#): > > A little googling shows me a LOT of recipes for Stroganoff calling for dill, so it doesn’t seem real uncommon. Ok, I believe you, stop making such a big dill out of it 😉 ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2022, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-a-well-known-at-least-fairly-well-known-type-of-food-or-style-of-cuisine-youve-never-or-only-recently-tried/957931/212 "2022-01-21T17:09:58Z")
IIRC,my TV chef also puts Worcestershire sauce into his Stroganov, which I’m pretty sure Russians wouldn’t do. I put garlic into mine, and top it with fresh chopped parsley. No other seasoning except salt and freshly ground pepper. ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2022, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-a-well-known-at-least-fairly-well-known-type-of-food-or-style-of-cuisine-youve-never-or-only-recently-tried/957931/213 "2022-01-21T17:10:13Z")
> [@solost](#): > > That picture looks like neither beef nor Stroganoff. Yeah, it’s less creamy than what you expect when someone says “Beef Stroganoff”. Was curious about that, and went thumbing through some online recipes for the over-rice and over-noodles versions. [Taste.com](https://www.taste.com.au/recipes/beef-stroganoff-rice/cd6551dd-883d-4939-a4ec-45dbe5f9d979) has got a good representative of over-rice, while the venerable [Betty Crocker cookbook](https://www.bettycrocker.com/recipes/classic-beef-stroganoff/c17a904f-a8f6-48ae-bedb-5b301a8ea317) has one for the common over-noodles style. Concentrating just on the sour cream used in both and doing the math: Each serving of the over-rice version gets 1/12 of a cup of sour cream – about a level tablespoon & change. Betty Crocker’s noodle version adds a quarter cup of sour cream per serving, yielding a much wetter – indeed, _pourable_ --final product. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2022, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-a-well-known-at-least-fairly-well-known-type-of-food-or-style-of-cuisine-youve-never-or-only-recently-tried/957931/214 "2022-01-21T17:12:16Z")
> [@terentii](#): > > my TV chef also puts Worcestershire sauce into his Stroganov I made mine for years without worcestershire, then gave it a try. It did enhance the flavor. And it just takes a tiny dash of it. I’m sold on using it now Might have to try adding paprika too. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2022, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-a-well-known-at-least-fairly-well-known-type-of-food-or-style-of-cuisine-youve-never-or-only-recently-tried/957931/215 "2022-01-21T17:12:29Z")
> [@bordelond](#): > > > [@solost](#): > > > > That picture looks like neither beef nor Stroganoff. > > Yeah, it’s less creamy than what you expect when someone says “Beef Stroganoff”. I mean, I don’t see any visible mushrooms or onions in that pic, and the meat doesn’t look like beef at all-- it looks more like browned chunks of chicken. I’m wondering if that’s an editing error-- it is Wikipedia, after all. ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2022, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-a-well-known-at-least-fairly-well-known-type-of-food-or-style-of-cuisine-youve-never-or-only-recently-tried/957931/216 "2022-01-21T17:14:30Z")
> [@solost](#): > > I mean, I don’t see any visible mushrooms or onions in that pic, and the meat doesn’t look like beef at all-- it looks more like browned chunks of chicken. I’m wondering if that’s an editing error-- it is Wikipedia, after all. More like it? [![](https://img.taste.com.au/mkdvRbCO/w720-h480-cfill-q80/taste/2016/11/beef-stroganoff-with-rice-22283-1.jpeg) ](https://img.taste.com.au/mkdvRbCO/w720-h480-cfill-q80/taste/2016/11/beef-stroganoff-with-rice-22283-1.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2022, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-a-well-known-at-least-fairly-well-known-type-of-food-or-style-of-cuisine-youve-never-or-only-recently-tried/957931/217 "2022-01-21T17:16:35Z")
> [@solost](#): > > > [@bordelond](#): > > > > > [@solost](#): > > > > > > That picture looks like neither beef nor Stroganoff. > > > > Yeah, it’s less creamy than what you expect when someone says “Beef Stroganoff”. > > I mean, I don’t see any visible mushrooms or onions in that pic, and the meat doesn’t look like beef at all-- it looks more like browned chunks of chicken. I’m wondering if that’s an editing error-- it is Wikipedia, after all. Chicken Stroganov sounds good—just like Chicken à la King, I’d imagine. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2022, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-a-well-known-at-least-fairly-well-known-type-of-food-or-style-of-cuisine-youve-never-or-only-recently-tried/957931/218 "2022-01-21T17:28:30Z")
> [@solost](#): > > > [@bordelond](#): > > > > > [@solost](#): > > > > > > That picture looks like neither beef nor Stroganoff. > > > > Yeah, it’s less creamy than what you expect when someone says “Beef Stroganoff”. > > I mean, I don’t see any visible mushrooms or onions in that pic, and the meat doesn’t look like beef at all-- it looks more like browned chunks of chicken. I’m wondering if that’s an editing error-- it is Wikipedia, after all. Well according to the same Wikipedia article: > [@](#): > > [Elena Molokhovets](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elena_Molokhovets)’s classic Russian cookbook _[A Gift to Young Housewives](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Gift_to_Young_Housewives)_ gives the first known recipe for _Govjadina po-strogonovski, s gorchitseju_ , “Beef _à la_ Stroganov, with mustard”, in its 1871 edition.[[6]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beef_Stroganoff#cite_note-Molokhovets-6)[[3]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beef_Stroganoff#cite_note-Volokh-3)[[4]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beef_Stroganoff#cite_note-Syutkin-4) The recipe involves beef _cubes_ (not strips) prepared in a dry marinade of salt and allspice, and then sautéed in butter. The sauce is a simple roux mixed with [prepared mustard](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustard_(condiment)) and [broth](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broth), and finished with a small amount of sour cream: no [onions](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onion), no [mushrooms](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mushroom) and no [alcohol](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholic_drink). Perhaps mushrooms and onions aren’t necessarily required. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2022, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-a-well-known-at-least-fairly-well-known-type-of-food-or-style-of-cuisine-youve-never-or-only-recently-tried/957931/219 "2022-01-21T17:35:25Z")
> [@bordelond](#): > > More like it? 😃 👍 > [@ISiddiqui](#): > > Well according to the same Wikipedia article: > > > [@](#): > > > > [Elena Molokhovets](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elena_Molokhovets)’s classic Russian cookbook _[A Gift to Young Housewives](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Gift_to_Young_Housewives)_ gives the first known recipe for _Govjadina po-strogonovski, s gorchitseju_ , “Beef _à la_ Stroganov, with mustard”, in its 1871 edition.[[6]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beef_Stroganoff#cite_note-Molokhovets-6)[[3]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beef_Stroganoff#cite_note-Volokh-3)[[4]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beef_Stroganoff#cite_note-Syutkin-4) The recipe involves beef _cubes_ (not strips) prepared in a dry marinade of salt and allspice, and then sautéed in butter. The sauce is a simple roux mixed with [prepared mustard](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustard_(condiment)) and [broth](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broth), and finished with a small amount of sour cream: no [onions](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onion), no [mushrooms](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mushroom) and no [alcohol](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcoholic_drink). > > Perhaps mushrooms and onions aren’t necessarily required. The meat still doesn’t look like beef in the pic, it looks more like chicken. It’s not the best picture though. Or maybe it’s veal, who knows? That recipe, with a dry rub of salt and allspice, then a roux made with mustard and broth and finished with a little sour cream, actually sounds pretty good. I might try that sometime. ---
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