# What's Bernie's remaining realistic path to the nomination? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 5, 2020, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949 "2020-03-05T05:16:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/201 "2020-03-11T22:07:49Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I’ll note (once again) that young people of all races overwhelmingly support Bernie – and this, hopefully, will be the future of the Democratic party. If these folks think the Democratic party doesn’t want them to be a part of it, we put the future of the party in peril. But if the great majority of young people become long-time Democrats, we’re in phenomenal shape for the next few decades. > > I want all these folks to be reliably Democratic voters, so I think it’s very important for the party (including Biden) to reach out to them. \*\*But they didnt vote for Bernie. \*\* ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/202 "2020-03-11T22:20:28Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > Bernie is going to be ripping into Biden harder this Saturday debate than how Warren tore into Bloomberg. It’s his last shot. I don’t think he will. Bernie has been pretty upfront about how whoever wins the most delegates should win and how democrats should stand together against trump. However he will probably attack some of bidens positions as too right wing. Which according to democratic voters, they are ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/203 "2020-03-11T22:29:46Z")
> [@Ulfreida](#): > > Obama was a really good candidate. > > And what was wrong with Warren, again? Vagina. Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/204 "2020-03-11T22:37:35Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > \*\*But they didnt vote for Bernie. \*\* Millions of them did. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/205 "2020-03-11T22:44:06Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Millions of them did. Not hardly enuf: > **[Bernie Sanders' Call For Young Voters Isn't Working Out The Way He Planned](https://www.npr.org/2020/03/06/812486517/bernie-sanders-call-for-young-voters-isn-t-working-out-the-way-he-planned)** > > Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders acknowledged this week that the young voters he's been counting on to boost his candidacy have not shown up at the polls in the strong numbers he had been hoping for. > **[Many young voters sat out Super Tuesday, contributing to Bernie Sanders' losses](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/03/04/super-tuesday-bernie-sanders-youth-votes-fell-short-compared-2016/4947795002/)** > > Exit polls for Alabama, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee and Virginia found young voters aren't showing up at the polls as much as 2016. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/206 "2020-03-11T22:45:35Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Not hardly enuf: > > [Bernie Sanders' Call For Young Voters Isn't Working Out The Way He Planned : NPR](https://www.npr.org/2020/03/06/812486517/bernie-sanders-call-for-young-voters-isn-t-working-out-the-way-he-planned) > > [Super Tuesday: Bernie Sanders' youth votes fell short compared to 2016](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/03/04/super-tuesday-bernie-sanders-youth-votes-fell-short-compared-2016/4947795002/) Not enough to win the primary (most likely). But enough to sink the party in the future if those voters decide the Democrats don’t represent their interests. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/207 "2020-03-11T23:28:05Z")
And there are still those who argue that the DNC took active measures to suppress voters likely to vote for Sanders. Probably not true, but they believe it. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/208 "2020-03-11T23:42:19Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Not enough to win the primary (most likely). But enough to sink the party in the future if those voters decide the Democrats don’t represent their interests. All your suggestions for going forward seem to be “do what Bernie would want”. Since he’s losing the nomination, maybe placating his voters isn’t the immediate issue. Winning the election is and to do that you need to motivate voters who go vote, not this unicorn Sanders supporter who’ll vote if you pick his special VP choice. Despite what fans say, Sanders didn’t start the fight for better health care coverage. Nor getting money out of politics. The party can still push in that direction whether he’s around or not. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/209 "2020-03-11T23:58:15Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > All your suggestions for going forward seem to be “do what Bernie would want”. Since he’s losing the nomination, maybe placating his voters isn’t the immediate issue. Winning the election is and to do that you need to motivate voters who go vote, not this unicorn Sanders supporter who’ll vote if you pick his special VP choice. > > Despite what fans say, Sanders didn’t start the fight for better health care coverage. Nor getting money out of politics. The party can still push in that direction whether he’s around or not. Quite clearly. I’m suggesting a path forward that represents, IMO, the best chance to beat Trump. If you have a better plan, I’m all ears. I like this plan because ISTM that it pisses off nobody. Choosing someone like Abrams doesn’t make any Democrats angry, AFAICT, and would make lots of us happy. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/210 "2020-03-12T00:00:23Z")
Biden won all 279 counties in Michigan, Mississippi and Missouri. I wonder the last time that happened for any candidate in a primary ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/211 "2020-03-12T00:08:23Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Quite clearly. I’m suggesting a path forward that represents, IMO, the best chance to beat Trump. If you have a better plan, I’m all ears. > > I like this plan because ISTM that it pisses off nobody. Choosing someone like Abrams doesn’t make any Democrats angry, AFAICT, and would make lots of us happy. Picking a completely silly VP to please Bernie fans will piss people off. Biden is likely a one termer. You are basicly trying to have Abrams be the Dem nominee in 2024. That is fucking nuts. And, I doubt it would bring in an appreciable number of Bernie grumblers. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/212 "2020-03-12T00:12:06Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Picking a completely silly VP to please Bernie fans will piss people off. Biden is likely a one termer. You are basicly trying to have Abrams be the Dem nominee in 2024. That is fucking nuts. And, I doubt it would bring in an appreciable number of Bernie grumblers. I disagree, but thanks for sharing your opinion. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/213 "2020-03-12T00:16:31Z")
So you disagree that someone who’s highest elected office is a Georgia state rep, is not an outrageous choice for the Dem nominee? You disagree that is what’s implicated by giving her the veep slot? Any reasoned arguments rattling around up there? Or is it all random guesses that just happen to line up with your hopes? ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/214 "2020-03-12T00:17:45Z")
Abrams never got a higher office than Georgia state house. That’s way too little experience for a VP candidate. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/215 "2020-03-12T00:22:40Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > So you disagree that someone who’s highest elected office is a Georgia state rep, is not an outrageous choice for the Dem nominee? You disagree that is what’s implicated by giving her the veep slot? Any reasoned arguments rattling around up there? Or is it all random guesses that just happen to line up with your hopes? “Outrageous” is a judgment call that I disagree with, but that’s opinion either way. And I’m not saying it has to be Abrams, just that she comes to mind as meeting the requirements I suggest. My argument is that this would give something for fence sitting Bernie supporters to vote for - that next in line for the president, and if Biden wins, almost certainly the next Democratic nominee, would be a very strong progressive. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/216 "2020-03-12T00:37:31Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > Abrams never got a higher office than Georgia state house. That’s way too little experience for a VP candidate. This is exactly right. I have no other objection to her whatsoever, and I hope she stays very involved in the political arena to gain experience as she goes. I really don’t get this notion so many people seem to have that the presidency is a job that any schmoe can step into. It just isn’t. Hasn’t Trump shown us that? The more experience the better, in as many different positions as possible. It’s why Hillary was uniquely qualified, and it’s why Biden is, too. I would have loved for a different “elder statesman” to have stepped in and run instead of Biden, and that’s as much for Biden’s sake as ours. The man has endured enough pain for one lifetime. John Kerry, Al Gore, Sherrod Brown, Mark Warner. Even my guy, Ron Wyden. But they didn’t. I would have loved for one of our younger more experienced candidates to have caught fire – Booker, Harris, Inslee… but they didn’t. Especially in this election, the choice of a vice president is crucial. Don’t give it to a puppy. I believe Biden will pick Klobuchar because he is very comfortable with her and they row in the same direction. Alternatively, I think he will pick Kamala Harris. Harris is the more “glam” pick and I love her, but I’d rather see her as our next Attorney General. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/217 "2020-03-12T00:41:02Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > “Outrageous” is a judgment call that I disagree with, but that’s opinion either way. And I’m not saying it has to be Abrams, just that she comes to mind as meeting the requirements I suggest. My argument is that this would give something for fence sitting Bernie supporters to vote for - that next in line for the president, and if Biden wins, almost certainly the next Democratic nominee, would be a very strong progressive. In your opinion, picking a former Georgia state representative as the next presidential nominee in order to win over probably a single percentage point at most, isn’t outrageous. Noted. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/218 "2020-03-12T03:16:58Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Picking a completely silly VP to please Bernie fans will piss people off. Biden is likely a one termer. You are basicly trying to have Abrams be the Dem nominee in 2024. That is fucking nuts. And, I doubt it would bring in an appreciable number of Bernie grumblers. Stacey Adams is by no means a “completely silly VP”. She’s a excellent choice. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/219 "2020-03-12T04:02:25Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > Biden won all 279 counties in Michigan, Mississippi and Missouri. I wonder the last time that happened for any candidate in a primary It’s probably unusual for a challenger. But incumbents generally run virtually unopposed and tend to sweep their party’s primaries. I believe Trump won all of the counties in those three states. (I can’t find a breakdown by counties for them but Weld got 0.9% or less at a state level so I think it’s safe to assume he didn’t win any counties.) ---
**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/220 "2020-03-12T05:06:00Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Stacey Adams is by no means a “completely silly VP”. She’s a excellent choice. I believe it’s a silly choice. To me it would scream “I know I need to have a minority, and/or a woman…well, here’s one!” I think it WOULD help him to have a minority or a woman, but there are many of both who are more qualified than Abrams. Biden should be picking his VP from the A-list, not the minor leagues. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949.md?page=12)