# What's Bernie's remaining realistic path to the nomination?

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 5, 2020, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949 "2020-03-05T05:16:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/301 "2020-03-22T04:53:28Z")

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> [@Manwich](#):
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> Another possible attack for Sanders would be to investigate Biden under 18 U.S. Code § 599 for Biden’s offer of a cabinet position for Yang in exchange for Yang’s endorsement.

This is surely some bizarre form of performance art, right?

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/302 "2020-03-22T04:58:31Z")

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> [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#):
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> Reported.

For…? 😕

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/303 "2020-03-22T06:17:00Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> You’re always good for a laugh, Manwich. Or a chuckle at least.

> [@Manwich](#):
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> Another possible attack for Sanders would be to investigate Biden under 18 U.S. Code § 599 for Biden’s offer of a cabinet position for Yang in exchange for Yang’s endorsement.

LOL. Two smears in one sentence. For that to have been true (which I’m sure it isn’t), Yang would have had to accept a cabinet position in exchange for his endorsement.

Yang’s campaign manager has said [that’s not true](https://twitter.com/Zach_Graumann/status/1237555203525595140). Zach Graumann:

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> BREAKING: @AndrewYang makes his endorsement of @JoeBiden.
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> For the #YangGang who don’t love this, please know. There was no horse-trading, back-room dealings, or political calculations.
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> I just texted Yang the logic and he made the decision on air. We must unite the country.

Will you be saying the same thing about Tulsi? She just dropped out and endorsed Biden for the same reason. . . Biden is the presumptive nominee.

Your creativity is amusing though.

I’m seeing Bernie supporters hating on both Yang and Tulsi for their endorsements. I’m wondering what happens when Bernie drops out and endorses Biden. Will the supporters turn on each other. . .or Bernie? Both? Neither? I’ve seen a few early signs of both.

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/304 "2020-03-22T06:42:59Z")

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Aww, so disappointing. Right after I posted my last reply, I coincidentally ran across this post on Reddit in the Presidential Race Memes sub. from a DM.

[Andrew Yang is on the Breakfast Club saying Biden said he’d have a cabinet position if he endorsed Biden. Under Title 18, Section 599 of the United States Code, this is illegal and Biden can be punished by up to 2 years in prison. Please spread this message to hold Biden accountable for his actions.](https://old.reddit.com/r/PresidentialRaceMemes/comments/fmm60i/andrew_yang_is_on_the_breakfast_club_saying_biden/)

So maybe it’s not so original after all.

The video is an interview with Yang on The Breakfast Club. Yang talks about how Biden had discussed the possibility of Yang being in his administration. The part that’s lacking is that Yang didn’t agree to endorse Biden in exchange.

I’ve also seen Yang say this same thing many months before Yang dropped out of the race, about Biden talking about a place for Yang in the Biden administration. It went something like Biden telling Yang that he had just as much chance of winning as he did. If Yang won, Biden would step aside. If Biden won, he’s be talking to Yang about a position in his administration.

Also, to clarify my question about the Bernie supporters, I was talking about _some_ Bernie supporters, not necessarily all of them.

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**Author:** ![Manwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e480ec/32.png) [@Manwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manwich)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/305 "2020-03-22T07:46:34Z")

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Not sure that helps with “What’s Bernie’s remaining realistic path to the nomination?”

Biden being AFK and having poor answers to a pandemic is Bernie’s key.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/306 "2020-03-22T11:53:31Z")

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> [@SlackerInc](#):
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> For…? 😕

Are you serious?

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/307 "2020-03-22T14:49:24Z")

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> [@Tamerlane](#):
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> or a live boy/dead girl scenario.

That cliché has had its run and needs to be retired now. Pete Buttigieg campaigned with his live boy by his side and didn’t do any worse than most.

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**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/308 "2020-03-22T15:27:06Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> Are you serious?

Thank you.

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/309 "2020-03-22T15:37:10Z")

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Bernie’s chances have been over since Super Tuesday. I’d like to see Biden more active though, it’d be a stark contrast to Trump’s behaviour; its a wasted opportunity that Bernie is using (with no/little effect).

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/310 "2020-03-22T15:59:14Z")

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> [@Manwich](#):
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> Biden being AFK and having poor answers to a pandemic is Bernie’s key.

[Feels like it’s just the opposite](https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/20/biden-coronavirus-plannings-139629):

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> Joe Biden is planning a regular shadow briefing on coronavirus to start as early as Monday to show how he would handle the crisis and address what he calls the lies and failures of President Trump.
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> Biden gave a preview of what’s to come in a conference call with reporters Friday, where he listed a litany of false and misleading statements from Trump, who has been holding regular White House press conferences concerning coronavirus preparedness and response that have been broadcast live on all major networks.

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/311 "2020-03-22T21:24:55Z")

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Yeah, #whereisjoe one of the Twitter hashtags that the Bros have been using.  
Too bad that Sanders supporters are much better at snarky tweets than actual votes.

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**Post date:** [March 22, 2020, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/312 "2020-03-22T22:26:23Z")

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> [@Manwich](#):
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> Not sure that helps with “What’s Bernie’s remaining realistic path to the nomination?”
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> Biden being AFK and having poor answers to a pandemic is Bernie’s key.

Bernie has lost.

It’s over.

No, Neither are going to make mass public appearances, as such have been banned.

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**Author:** ![Manwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e480ec/32.png) [@Manwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manwich)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/313 "2020-03-24T19:05:39Z")

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Bernie with another win, this time of overseas voters.

[Things are still looking close.](https://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/elections/results/primaries/democratic/)

With Biden’s very shaky and rambling recent video appearances and his lack of a coherent policy of ending capital domination of workers, Bernie can really drive this one home.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/314 "2020-03-24T19:21:08Z")

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Lol, “lack of a coherent policy of ending capital domination of workers”. Yeah, you’ve really got your finger on the American pulse. If you think your contributions are making anyone think twice, you are super duper wrong.

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**Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/315 "2020-03-24T19:21:27Z")

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> [@Manwich](#):
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> Bernie with another win, this time of overseas voters.
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> [Things are still looking close.](https://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/elections/results/primaries/democratic/)
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> With Biden’s very shaky and rambling recent video appearances and his lack of a coherent policy of ending capital domination of workers, Bernie can really drive this one home.

If Bernie gets big, big wins in all the remaining states, maybe he can.

But this is exceedingly unlikely to happen. If it does, I’ll cheer very loudly, but I have very little expectation that it will.

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**Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/316 "2020-03-24T19:25:07Z")

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Bernie won California with 35%. He won his home state with 50%. For him to win at this point, he needs to win 60%+ of all remaining delegates. Nuff said.

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**Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/317 "2020-03-24T23:56:22Z")

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> [@Manwich](#):
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> [Things are still looking close.](https://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/elections/results/primaries/democratic/)

[No, they’re not.](https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1240424562279485440)

For those who don’t like clicking Twitter links, the link I shared is Nate Silver tweeting, "Sanders would need 63% the remaining delegates to claim a majority, which is roughly equivalent to winning the remaining contests by ~25 points.

Biden would need 45% of remaining delegates for a majority, equivalent to _losing_ remaining contests by ~10 points."

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**Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/318 "2020-03-25T00:05:22Z")

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> [@Manwich](#):
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> Bernie with another win, this time of overseas voters.
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> [Things are still looking close.](https://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/elections/results/primaries/democratic/)
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> With Biden’s very shaky and rambling recent video appearances and his lack of a coherent policy of ending capital domination of workers, Bernie can really drive this one home.

When Bernie loses (we’re past “if” at this point), how are you going to handle it? You seem to be pretty invested in a Sanders victory, to the point where you’re willing to avoid reality to keep yourself optimistic. I think anyone who is holding out hope right now for the nomination needs to consider that.

I don’t blame people for supporting Sanders, and early in the race a win was even probable, but at this point only delusion lets a person think that the likelihood of a win is somehow increasing.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/319 "2020-03-25T00:48:16Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> Are you serious?

Yes, I’m serious. I tend to strongly disagree with **Manwich** , but I don’t see what was report-worthy in what \*\*Stamos \*\*quoted. Seriously, explain it to me: I have reread it like ten times and I don’t get it. The entire text he quoted from \*\*Manwich \*\*read as follows:

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> With Biden out of the picture, this has been a great chance for Bernie to show his leadership and the advantage of healthcare for all USA people.
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> Imagine losing your job now or being a gig worker with no health care under your unique first world yet cruel system.
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> Hopefully Biden drops out of the race now his policies have been laid bare as feeble.

Did it use to say something else? Is there some idiom there (“bare as feeble”?) I’m unfamiliar with, that is beyond the pale? I seriously don’t get it.

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**Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/320 "2020-03-25T00:52:39Z")

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Are you kidding? “With Biden out of the picture” and “Hopefully Biden drops out of the race now his policies have been laid bare as feeble” sound like reality based jump offs for discussion?

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