# What's Bernie's remaining realistic path to the nomination? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 5, 2020, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949 "2020-03-05T05:16:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2020, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/121 "2020-03-08T04:51:16Z")
Bernie Sanders likes to attack Joe Biden for voting for the “Wall Street bailouts”, meaning TARP, which he voted against. We’re all damn lucky Bernie’s vote didn’t carry the day! These were loans, which the banks paid back with interest, and Bernie’s terribly irresponsible opposition risked completely nuking the world economy. > [@LH75](#): > > I was there last time. I am a little old for this kind of thing now. I just watched _Medium Cool_ on Blu-ray last night. Absolutely incredible stuff! I can’t believe they put actors into the middle of that. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2020, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/122 "2020-03-08T05:51:46Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > “Your American dollars”. Sounds contemptuous, like a line out of a movie from a Bond villain or something. What currency are you more familiar with, rubles? According to his profile, Manwich is posting from Japan. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2020, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/123 "2020-03-08T06:09:43Z")
> [@Manwich](#): > > “Bernie bros” remember? What about them? ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2020, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/124 "2020-03-08T06:16:37Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Why would Bernie and his Bros start working for a party they don’t belong to and don’t support? Why would [del]Bernie and his Bros[/del] **a party** start [del]working[/del] **allowing** for [del]a party[/del] **Bernie and his Bros** , they don’t belong to and don’t support the party? ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2020, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/125 "2020-03-08T07:50:11Z")
Sooo…Bernie’s new advisor is a conspiracy nutter who has repeatedly made disparaging remarks about Michelle Obama’s appearance. Nice. [https://twitter.com/dantoujours/status/1236500649103286272?s=20](https://twitter.com/dantoujours/status/1236500649103286272?s=20) [https://twitter.com/dantoujours/status/1236501203263119360?s=20](https://twitter.com/dantoujours/status/1236501203263119360?s=20) ---
**Author:** ![erysichthon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d07c76/32.png) [@erysichthon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erysichthon)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2020, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/126 "2020-03-08T07:51:53Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > According to his profile, Manwich is posting from Japan. Japan? Maybe he’s posting from his [secret volcano base](http://www.filmbuffonline.com/FBOLNewsreel/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/you-only-live-twive-volcano-lair.jpg) there. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2020, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/127 "2020-03-08T21:41:36Z")
> [@Manwich](#): > > Of course I want the Democratic party destroyed, they have been ineffective for years. **Manwich** , this seems to be your real bottom-line position, so let’s go ahead and discuss it for a little bit. Democratic governments work best when they run in a basically centrist position. Half the country may be center-left and the other half center-right, but the general consensus is somewhere approaching the middle. Over the last 50 years, both the Democrats and the Republicans have been dragged away from the center by the outer wings of the parties. They only thing it’s accomplished is a desperate attempt by each party to undo what the other one does. Hyperbolic statements like “I want the Democratic party destroyed” are fun to type, but in the real world, they’re a straight path to four more years of Donald Trump. Sure, you can hope that the Democrats go the way of the Whigs, but you’d better have something more than a frustrated solcialist from Vermont to replace it. There are plenty of choices for voters. In 2016 there were a total of 25 political parties who ran candidates for President. 23 of them combined for a total of 7.8 million votes - one million fewer votes than Hillary Clinton received in just the state of California. Centrism works. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/128 "2020-03-09T00:08:03Z")
not sure if Biden got sick or even died that Sanders would be picked. I could see them going with Warren instead. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/129 "2020-03-09T00:13:43Z")
According to the [538 primary forecast](https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-primary-forecast/), things have gotten even worse for Sanders polling-wise in the last few days. For example, he had been up in Michigan until recently, but now Biden is the favorite there. If Bernie can’t take Michigan and get some momentum swinging his way, he is in serious trouble, because right now everything is snowballing toward Biden. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/130 "2020-03-09T16:08:59Z")
Never mind ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/131 "2020-03-09T16:12:38Z")
DP ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/132 "2020-03-09T16:10:26Z")
Latinos in Texas don’t give a shit about Castro, so you’re thinking wrong. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/133 "2020-03-09T16:30:27Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Sooo…Bernie’s new advisor is a conspiracy nutter who has repeatedly made disparaging remarks about Michelle Obama’s appearance. Nice. > > [https://twitter.com/dantoujours/status/1236500649103286272?s=20](https://twitter.com/dantoujours/status/1236500649103286272?s=20) > > [https://twitter.com/dantoujours/status/1236501203263119360?s=20](https://twitter.com/dantoujours/status/1236501203263119360?s=20) Which is why I do blame Bernie for the actions of his Bros. I have said repeatedly that a candidate isn’t responsible for some random raving nut job on Twitter, but when the campaign is staffed with trolls, that is a reason to blame them ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/134 "2020-03-09T16:59:02Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > Sooo…Bernie’s new advisor is a conspiracy nutter who has repeatedly made disparaging remarks about Michelle Obama’s appearance. Nice. > > [https://twitter.com/dantoujours/status/1236500649103286272?s=20](https://twitter.com/dantoujours/status/1236500649103286272?s=20) > > [https://twitter.com/dantoujours/status/1236501203263119360?s=20](https://twitter.com/dantoujours/status/1236501203263119360?s=20) Anybody on Sander’s staff could have googled this guy to find this. Either they didn’t, which is incompetent, or they did and rolled with him anyway, which is stupid. I smell the flop sweat of desperation, Bernie. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/135 "2020-03-09T17:59:14Z")
Sanders reminds me of a line from Robert the Bruce in Braveheart - “Now it’s just rage” Sanders is getting close to that point where he has no chance to win but keeps on raging. If he did not quit early last time I doubt he quits early this time. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/136 "2020-03-09T18:08:42Z")
> [@Chisquirrel](#): > > Get his supporters off of Facebook, Reddit, and Twitter and into the voting booths. > > He has significant leads in every demographic under 45, which combine to over 55% of the electorate. Unfortunately for Sanders, those same demographics are showing up at less than half the rate of Biden’s supporters. If they actually SHOW UP, he has an uphill, but viable, path. If they continue to sit at home and rage at the unfairness of other people voicing their opinion, then he losing yet again to a “milquetoast Republican-lite”. Yes, this is it. Needs the young voters actually…\*voting. \* What I love is that after raging at the unfairness of the DNC, they now want the DNC to “step in” and pick Bernie. Telling them over and over again that the DNC has little power in this, that it’s the **voters** doesnt seem to sink in. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/137 "2020-03-09T18:12:49Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Indeed. I’ve been following the [NPR Delegate Tracker](https://www.npr.org/2020/02/10/799979293/how-many-delegates-do-the-2020-presidential-democratic-candidates-have) pretty closely. At the moment they have Biden up 595-528 with 144 California delegates unallocated. Biden’s lead could certainly shrink to nearly nothing, but the map becomes a lot unfriendlier to Bernie in the weeks ahead. MI and WA may be his best chances among sizeable states, but I don’t see a blowout for him anywhere with huge delegate hauls. On the other hand, I can totally see Biden running up the score in PA, GA, FL, MD, NJ, and a few others. Total is now 664- 573, pretty close. Except you forget Bloomberg’s and Petes nearly 100 delegates to Biden. Now if Warren throws her’s to Bernie… ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/138 "2020-03-09T18:14:02Z")
> [@ShadowFacts](#): > > According to the [538 primary forecast](https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-primary-forecast/), things have gotten even worse for Sanders polling-wise in the last few days. For example, he had been up in Michigan until recently, but now Biden is the favorite there. If Bernie can’t take Michigan and get some momentum swinging his way, he is in serious trouble, because right now everything is snowballing toward Biden. A second poll (Monmouth) has just come out giving Biden a 51-36 lead in Michigan. Good chance the coffin nail will be driven in tomorrow. Exceptional youth turnout hasn’t materialized so, without the claim to extra Upper Midwest support, what’s left? ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/139 "2020-03-09T18:16:07Z")
after next Tues there are only a few big states left to vote. NY, NJ , Penn are the main 3. the rest are smaller states or territories. Unless Sanders does well this week and next that is about it for his chances. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2020, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949/140 "2020-03-09T18:17:21Z")
> [@Manwich](#): > > … > > Sanders should talk facts about Biden’s record on Social Security, …s. You mean constantly and totally supporting SocSec and wanting a increase? Biden has always supported Socsec, anything else is a total fabrication. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-bernies-remaining-realistic-path-to-the-nomination/848949.md?page=8)