# What's going to happen to Trump and his family if Dems win next year? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [August 29, 2019, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-going-to-happen-to-trump-and-his-family-if-dems-win-next-year/839418 "2019-08-29T15:26:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2019, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-going-to-happen-to-trump-and-his-family-if-dems-win-next-year/839418/41 "2019-08-29T21:52:44Z")
Hey people, you have to remember that Trump is a paragon angel without flaw, as well as a hero of the people and the best one at being best at everything. He’s literally saving the country and the economy as we speak. Given that, being mad at him for beating our girl is the only plausible reason we might oppose him. ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2019, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-going-to-happen-to-trump-and-his-family-if-dems-win-next-year/839418/42 "2019-08-29T22:36:25Z")
He is going to start a charity and build houses for poor people while teaching Sunday school into his 90s. ---
**Author:** ![Urbanredneck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ea5d25/32.png) [@Urbanredneck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Urbanredneck)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2019, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-going-to-happen-to-trump-and-his-family-if-dems-win-next-year/839418/43 "2019-08-29T22:44:02Z")
Well personally, even though I’m republican, I havent really “liked” a candidate since Reagan. It’s just that I’ve disliked the democratic choices even more. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2019, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-going-to-happen-to-trump-and-his-family-if-dems-win-next-year/839418/44 "2019-08-29T22:44:11Z")
> [@Icarus](#): > > Not to derail the original discussion too much, but with former D presidents ISTM they are still motivated to “make the world a better place”. Whereas with former R’s (and I can hear the screeching ramping up already) I wouldn’t say that is part of their core value system. That’s not fair. I think we can expect Trump to make the world a better place in 2021 just like Bush made it a better place in 2009. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2019, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-going-to-happen-to-trump-and-his-family-if-dems-win-next-year/839418/45 "2019-08-29T22:46:59Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > Well personally, even though I’m republican, I havent really “liked” a candidate since Reagan. It’s just that I’ve disliked the democratic choices even more. People need to stop think of a Presidential election as an opportunity to make a new friend. We should treat it like a job interview and ask “Which of these people will do a better job?” ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2019, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-going-to-happen-to-trump-and-his-family-if-dems-win-next-year/839418/46 "2019-08-29T22:49:50Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > Well personally, even though I’m republican, I havent really “liked” a candidate since Reagan. It’s just that I’ve disliked the democratic choices even more. I find it amazing that anyone could have looked at the two major-party candidates in 2016 and decided that Trump was better qualified for the position. Or, using the “job interview” metaphor, how does Trump look better for the job? ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2019, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-going-to-happen-to-trump-and-his-family-if-dems-win-next-year/839418/47 "2019-08-29T23:10:51Z")
> [@amarinth](#): > > You don’t want to move on, but you do realize that “lock up the family of the outgoing leader” is a very bad look for a democracy Nonsense. Quite a few Latin American countries have been locking up former leaders for corruption, which demonstrates a functioning democracy and makes them look better. If it’s decided that Trump is not subject to the law because of his former position it will make us look worse than a banana republic. ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2019, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-going-to-happen-to-trump-and-his-family-if-dems-win-next-year/839418/48 "2019-08-29T23:41:44Z")
I stand by what I said. March in and lock up the family of the outgoing leader is the first thing that autocratic despots do. (Unless they just flat out kill the outgoing leaders and their families). If we were hearing about any other country where that happened, it wouldn’t be seen as a bright new stage, but the beginning of their slide into tyranny. ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-going-to-happen-to-trump-and-his-family-if-dems-win-next-year/839418/49 "2019-08-30T00:03:00Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Quite a few Latin American countries have been locking up former leaders for corruption, which demonstrates a functioning democracy and makes them look better. > [@amarinth](#): > > I stand by what I said. > > March in and lock up the family of the outgoing leader is the first thing that autocratic despots do. (Unless they just flat out kill the outgoing leaders and their families). If we were hearing about any other country where that happened, it wouldn’t be seen as a bright new stage, but the beginning of their slide into tyranny. Ummm… Maybe it should be mentioned that we’d only incarcerate the family members that could be shown to also have committed crimes? ---
**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-going-to-happen-to-trump-and-his-family-if-dems-win-next-year/839418/50 "2019-08-30T00:48:22Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Really? Do you seriously think that the big reason that Democrats don’t support Trump is because he won and Hillary Clinton didn’t? You don’t think the collusion, racism, sexual harassment, rudeness to others (including members of his own party, such as John McCain), narcissism, lack of attention, etc are the reason not to support him? In short the man is massively unfit for any elected office and that’s been obvious to some of us since he started his campaign. And yet you think the big problem is that he beat Hillary in the election? Republicans didn’t think there would be another Democrat in the White House. Then in 1992 a non-veteran defeated a war hero who’d had a 90% approval rating. Because Democrats didn’t beat Republicans over the head about it, there was 24 years of seething. Then something even more improbable happened. Republicans are just projecting. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-going-to-happen-to-trump-and-his-family-if-dems-win-next-year/839418/51 "2019-08-30T01:05:55Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > Nope. None of that with the Bush admin. Just a pile of war crimes. There was plenty for the Dems to go after, they just chose not to. I’m not in favor of prosecuting Trump for stuff he did as president, I’m in favor of prosecuting stuff he did before he was president, and stuff that had nothing to do with him being president. Like lying on his loan forms. And of course covering up crimes he did before while he was president. It’s not like there isn’t enough stuff to lock him up for a long time without setting a bad precedent. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-going-to-happen-to-trump-and-his-family-if-dems-win-next-year/839418/52 "2019-08-30T01:17:23Z")
Tumbrels, baby. Tumbrels. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-going-to-happen-to-trump-and-his-family-if-dems-win-next-year/839418/53 "2019-08-30T02:19:14Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > Putin will send a guy with a Bulgarian umbrella after him. Either that or polonium laced ketchup on a well done steak. Sent from my SM-G950U1 using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![nelliebly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nelliebly/32/5422_2.png) [@nelliebly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nelliebly)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-going-to-happen-to-trump-and-his-family-if-dems-win-next-year/839418/54 "2019-08-30T02:43:30Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > I wish more ex-presidents were like Bush Sr. and just quietly go back to their former lives. Carter was ok doing his charities. > > The Clintons have always acted like they were still on top and I bet they have more influence in the DNC than most people think. > > The Obama’s have done well. I think you mean _is_. Carter _is_ doing OK with his charities. He’s in his nineties, but he’s still actively involved with Habitat for Humanity. Wouldn’t it be great if that was the expected role of all former presidents? ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-going-to-happen-to-trump-and-his-family-if-dems-win-next-year/839418/55 "2019-08-30T02:46:26Z")
I, for one, don’t like Trump because he uses an unsecured phone. Lock him up! I would also gladly support criminal prosecution of Trump (as just one example, he is a co-conspirator in election fraud crimes for which Michael Cohen is currently doing prison time). I’m not confident that will happen, but I do have hope that he will be tied up in lawsuits for the remainder of his miserable life. I also predict that trump branded products will get a big display at WalMart, but will be considered tacky and cheap junk by discerning shoppers. And that Donald ends up putting his presidential library at Mar A Lago, for lack of any benefactors who want to be associated with it. The place sort of becomes like Graceland in terms of odd and garish tourist attractions. It’s also the only Presidential library who’s papers consist entirely of tweets. The family? I have a real hard time imagining Ivanka or Don Jr holding office, but I’m certain that both have thought of it. So, who knows, maybe some senate or house races? I doubt we’ll see much of the others - Melania will go back to feasting on diamonds in her tower in New York. Barron will randomly appear in some news story in 15 years (maybe a wedding or something) and we’ll be surprised to see how he turned out. Eric will audition to play Sloth in a reboot of the Goonies. Tiffany will still look weird. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-going-to-happen-to-trump-and-his-family-if-dems-win-next-year/839418/56 "2019-08-30T03:33:03Z")
> [@amarinth](#): > > I stand by what I said. > > March in and lock up the family of the outgoing leader is the first thing that autocratic despots do. (Unless they just flat out kill the outgoing leaders and their families). If we were hearing about any other country where that happened, it wouldn’t be seen as a bright new stage, but the beginning of their slide into tyranny. You’re making the wrong analogy. When democratic regimes replace autocratic despots, they rightfully prosecute the leaders of the former government for their crimes. Impunity for crimes just because of someone’s position is an abdication of the rule of law. As I said, many Latin American governments have legitimately prosecuted and sometimes convicted former leaders for corruption. Here in Panama, the former president Ricardo Martinelli was recently tried for corruption during his presidency. People are extremely pissed off that he wasn’t convicted, since they are increasingly fed up with corrupt governments. ---
**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-going-to-happen-to-trump-and-his-family-if-dems-win-next-year/839418/57 "2019-08-30T07:38:47Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Really? Do you seriously think that the big reason that Democrats don’t support Trump is because he won and Hillary Clinton didn’t? You don’t think the collusion, racism, sexual harassment, rudeness to others (including members of his own party, such as John McCain), narcissism, lack of attention, etc are the reason not to support him? In short the man is massively unfit for any elected office and that’s been obvious to some of us since he started his campaign. And yet you think the big problem is that he beat Hillary in the election? Another way to consider how absurd this claim is: imagine if Trump hadn’t won the election. Despite the unprecedented racism and xenophobia, mocking of the disabled, incitements of violence, etc. – \*people who opposed Trump would now be remembering him fondly, because he didn’t win the election. \* As I said upthread, they’re projecting how they felt when Bill Clinton won. ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-going-to-happen-to-trump-and-his-family-if-dems-win-next-year/839418/58 "2019-08-30T08:33:34Z")
Finish the saying: Old Trumps never die, they just…(fade away?) ---
**Author:** ![Dereknocue67](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/6de8d8/32.png) [@Dereknocue67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dereknocue67)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-going-to-happen-to-trump-and-his-family-if-dems-win-next-year/839418/59 "2019-08-30T08:46:52Z")
If Trump is defeated, in order to avoid lengthy and costly legal battles that may last the rest of his life, his best move would be to cut a deal with Pence to pardon him after he resigns before the next President is sworn in. That would be a comprehensive get out of jail free card. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-going-to-happen-to-trump-and-his-family-if-dems-win-next-year/839418/60 "2019-08-30T09:07:38Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Nonsense. Quite a few Latin American countries have been locking up former leaders for corruption, which demonstrates a functioning democracy and makes them look better. If it’s decided that Trump is not subject to the law because of his former position it will make us look worse than a banana republic. Several European ones as well, for corruption and for other things. That certain people aren’t subject to prosecution while they hold whatever jobs protect them from it, does not mean they aren’t subject to prosecution once they leave the jobs. The Spanish books have specific crimes for “abusing an elected position” and “accepting bribes while a public officer”: that the abused power and the bribes took place while one was in an unprosecutable job actually makes the crimes worse. And in the case of the Trumps, the items that Miller investigated took place before the election: does being elected make someone unprosecutable for anything they ever did? Maybe Polanski should run for POTUS! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-going-to-happen-to-trump-and-his-family-if-dems-win-next-year/839418.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-going-to-happen-to-trump-and-his-family-if-dems-win-next-year/839418.md?page=4)