# What's in the vault, who is company "sealed"? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [December 20, 2018, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-in-the-vault-who-is-company-sealed/826405 "2018-12-20T05:04:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-in-the-vault-who-is-company-sealed/826405/1 "2018-12-20T05:04:14Z")
So two the current mysteries of the Mueller investigation in Russian interference (and the related investigations) are: A - Who is the [mystery company](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/dec/18/sealed-v-sealed-robert-mueller-mysterious-case-subpoena) that is fighting a subpoena from (possibly) Mueller in the “Sealed vs Sealed” case ? B - What is the in the [sealed documents](https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/19/-filing-in-case-of-former-trump-lawyer-michael-cohen.html) related to the Cohen case that are a vault in Manhattan? What is the SD take on these mysteries? My take is A: Deutshe Bank and B: The Pee Pee tape\* - - Joking, but in the legal parlance could a “document” be something other than a piece of paper? ---
**Author:** ![UDS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecae2f/32.png) [@UDS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UDS)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2018, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-in-the-vault-who-is-company-sealed/826405/2 "2018-12-20T05:33:48Z")
Media reports (including the one you link to) suggest that the mystery company is not just a foreign company, but a company owned by a foreign state. If correct, that rules out Deutsche Bank. And, no, a document doesn’t have to be paper. Any record of evidence or information, anything which serves to document a fact or an event, can be a document. ---
**Author:** ![griffin1977](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@griffin1977](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/griffin1977)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2018, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-in-the-vault-who-is-company-sealed/826405/3 "2018-12-29T19:09:54Z")
Small bump as another theory appeared on my feed. The theory is the sealed company is Alfa Bank, and the subpoena concerns the u[nexplained DNS activity between the bank and a server run by the Trump campaign](http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/10/was_a_server_registered_to_the_trump_organization_communicating_with_russia.html). But I don’t see anything saying Alfa Bank is state owned. Its a privately run Russian bank as far as I can work out (i know there is far less distinction between private and public run institutions in Putin’s Russian, but that doesn’t make a private company a state owned one AFAIK) ---
**Author:** ![TSBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/77aa72/32.png) [@TSBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TSBG)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2018, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-in-the-vault-who-is-company-sealed/826405/4 "2018-12-29T23:22:49Z")
> [@griffin1977](#): > > Small bump as another theory appeared on my feed. > > The theory is the sealed company is Alfa Bank, and the subpoena concerns the u[nexplained DNS activity between the bank and a server run by the Trump campaign](http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/10/was_a_server_registered_to_the_trump_organization_communicating_with_russia.html). Slight correction, the server was owned by the Trump Organization and was set up in 2009. ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2018, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-in-the-vault-who-is-company-sealed/826405/5 "2018-12-29T23:56:19Z")
If I were a betting man, I would put money on a [company](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/03/mueller-investigation-spreads-to-qatar-israel-uae-china-turkey.html) in the MidEast. Qatar would be my favorite. > [@](#): > > NBC reported in March that Qatari officials had considered giving Mueller documents showing “what they believe is evidence of efforts by their country’s Persian Gulf neighbors in coordination with Kushner to hurt their country” but decided not to for fear of further straining their relations with the White House.