# What's Next For a Guy Like Tim Ryan?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-next-for-a-guy-like-tim-ryan/773474>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 30, 2016, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-next-for-a-guy-like-tim-ryan/773474 "2016-11-30T17:53:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\
**Post date:** [November 30, 2016, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-next-for-a-guy-like-tim-ryan/773474/1 "2016-11-30T17:53:40Z")

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Having [failed to topple Nancy Pelosi](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/11/30/nancy-pelosis-biggest-leadership-challenge-might-be-beating-expectations/?utm_term=.3872db67d368). If you strike at a King you must kill him. So does he gain stature by having garnered 63 votes, or is he punished for having challenged the leader?

I would guess the latter. Because it’s not like he was one of the leading lights in Congress with an independent base of support. His support was just “it’s time for a change” support. So I would guess that to the extent that Pelosi wants to placate that sentiment, they can do so by promoting junior leadership that’s more to their liking.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-next-for-a-guy-like-tim-ryan/773474/2 "2016-12-01T11:23:56Z")

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> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#):
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> Because it’s not like he was one of the leading lights in Congress with an independent base of support.

That’s why I wonder if maybe this whole thing was a publicity stunt, the first step of a campaign for governor. Now he’s an independent voice who took on the establishment or somesuch.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-next-for-a-guy-like-tim-ryan/773474/3 "2016-12-02T10:53:11Z")

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He obviously plans to be the next governor of Ohio and is very likely to succeed.