# What's so bad about Jack T. Chick? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [April 8, 2003, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-bad-about-jack-t-chick/167218 "2003-04-08T02:20:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-bad-about-jack-t-chick/167218/41 "2003-04-08T21:09:28Z")
> [@](#): > > Do you mean Duane Gish the intelligent design proponent? Has Gish recently changed his tune to support IF instead of YEC? A few years ago he was very much the equal of Hovind in lying about the evidence about YEC, being forced to recant it publicly, then repaeting the same lies in his next book/lecture/radio interview, etc. I don’t follow him closely enough to know if he has recently cleaned up his act, but in his earlier phase, he went far beyond “questionable debating tactics”: he lied. ---
**Author:** ![Dogface](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9d8465/32.png) [@Dogface](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dogface)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-bad-about-jack-t-chick/167218/42 "2003-04-08T21:10:54Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Dewey Cheatem Undhow \* > \*\*[Dark Dungeons](http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0046/0046_01.asp) is still my favorite, though I can’t quite wrap my mind around a D&D game where actual women are interested in playing. 😃 \*\* Ms. Frost can be my Master, dungeon or otherwise, any day. ---
**Author:** ![ElJeffe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/958977/32.png) [@ElJeffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElJeffe)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-bad-about-jack-t-chick/167218/43 "2003-04-08T21:11:03Z")
> [@](#): > > Oh, and you cannot have a Chick tract thread without mentioning > this classic. Holy mother of Moses, that was hilarious. You’ve gotta question Chick’s logic with some of these, though. He has a metric butt-load of tracts where someone is an awful person all their life, then repents on their death bed, and gets saved. Does he really want to send out a message that says, in a nutshell, “Be a prick all your life, it’s okay. Just mutter a quick “My bad!” before you wink out, and everything’ll be copacetic!”? Oh, wait, I’m ascribing logical capacity to Jack Chick, aren’t I? Jeff ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-bad-about-jack-t-chick/167218/44 "2003-04-08T21:11:26Z")
to support I **D** instead of YEC? ---
**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-bad-about-jack-t-chick/167218/45 "2003-04-08T21:21:07Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by adam yax \* > \*\*Buy them? I’ve only ever seen the actual tracts, in the wild that is, littering the ground around a very small area. Who buys them? \*\* File for future reference: just about every Christian bookstore in America has them in stock. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-bad-about-jack-t-chick/167218/46 "2003-04-08T21:24:06Z")
I think someone posted that one in the Pit once. They also pointed out the guy’s name is Leroy Brown. Channeling the late Jim Croce? For shame, Mr. Chick, for shame! ---
**Author:** ![The\_Green\_Feather](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8e7dd6/32.png) [@The\_Green\_Feather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Green_Feather)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-bad-about-jack-t-chick/167218/47 "2003-04-08T21:36:44Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ElJeffe \* > \*\*Holy mother of Moses, that was hilarious. You’ve gotta question Chick’s logic with some of these, though. He has a metric butt-load of tracts where someone is an awful person all their life, then repents on their death bed, and gets saved. Does he really want to send out a message that says, in a nutshell, “Be a prick all your life, it’s okay. Just mutter a quick “My bad!” before you wink out, and everything’ll be copacetic!”? > > Oh, wait, I’m ascribing logical capacity to Jack Chick, aren’t I? > Jeff \*\* metric butt-load… BWA HA HA!!! When someome starts going at it Chick style, I always tell them I’m ‘Frisbitarian.\*’ We believe that when you die your soul just goes up on the roof. I’ve gotten some really scary stares after saying that. But it breaks their concentration just long enough to allow me to escape! \*Actually, if anyone is interested, I’m Lutheran. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-bad-about-jack-t-chick/167218/48 "2003-04-08T22:29:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \* > **-The KKK is notoriously anti-Catholic. For the Church to have [clansmen standing] behind them makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.** Ah, but according to Chick, the Catholic Church is the _Illuminati!_ Which means that although the KKK **publically** dislikes the Catholic Church, they’re is secretly in cahoots with them. It’s all part of the Catholics’ master plot for world domination. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-bad-about-jack-t-chick/167218/49 "2003-04-08T22:41:29Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by The Man With The Golden Gun \* > \*\*Oh, and you cannot have a Chick tract thread without mentioning > [this classic](http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0069/0069_01.asp). \*\* Notice how the hit men’s machine guns (around the middle of the tract) are going “BUDDA BUDDA BUDDA”? Chick’s taking a slam at the Buddhists, too! \ ---
**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-bad-about-jack-t-chick/167218/50 "2003-04-08T22:43:00Z")
Dialogue from the Anti-Catholic Death Cookie Comic: \*\*How could I gain control of all these people without an army? It’s simple. Make them believe their immortal souls are in your hands. If you can make a man believe you have the power to put him in hell, he’ll do anything you ask to save his skin.\*\* Hahahahahah [gasps for breath] hahahahahaha! The irony… it’s killing me. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-bad-about-jack-t-chick/167218/51 "2003-04-08T22:46:59Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Duck Duck Goose \* > \*\*File for future reference: just about every Christian bookstore in America has them in stock. \*\* And then people buy them from the store? Man, Barnum was right. ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix\_Dragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/65b543/32.png) [@Phoenix\_Dragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phoenix_Dragon)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2003, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-bad-about-jack-t-chick/167218/52 "2003-04-08T23:00:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by The Man With The Golden Gun \* > \*\*Oh, and you cannot have a Chick tract thread without mentioning > [this classic](http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0069/0069_01.asp). \*\* Iiiiinteresting… “Are you religious?” “No, I’m christian.” Wha-huh?? Chick’s making as much sense as ever! ---
**Author:** ![Gaijin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/838e76/32.png) [@Gaijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gaijin)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2003, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-bad-about-jack-t-chick/167218/53 "2003-04-09T00:09:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by The Man With The Golden Gun \* > \*\*On a first date a couple years ago, I went to the girl’s house, and saw a bunch of Chick tracts lying on the floor. > > Talk about a bad sign. > \*\* I used to date a girl from a Chick-esque denomination (didn’t know it at first). Loved her in fact. One day, we began to seriously discuss our religious beliefs. I’m Catholic. I mentioned Jack Chick, and, laughingly, said “There are people that actually believe the Catholic Church is a trap of the devil.” Oops. Had serious discussion. She didn’t think she could continue our relationship, what with me being an unholy puppet of the great whore of Babylon. Big debate ensued, and I picked away every one of her claims, cited Bible verses, etc. Consulting her father, an expert of their crazy faith, I learned that, as a matter of fact, just as in Jack’s latest “The Man in Black,” that the ‘True Christians’ took the ‘True Bible’ with them as they fled into the mountains/undergound/somewhere, and the ‘True Word’ was kept secret and uncorrupted through the ‘Seven Church Ages’ until some crazy prophet brought it back into the public eye not a scant 50 years ago. After a conversion attempt, I managed to escape. Now I stick to scaring up tail at Mass. Music, candles, fine wine- it’s romantic, I tells ya. ---
**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2003, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-bad-about-jack-t-chick/167218/54 "2003-04-09T03:16:48Z")
> [@](#): > > And then people buy them from the store? Man, Barnum was right. Well, yeah, but you have to remember that the people who buy them, and disseminate them, believe they’re doing God’s work, which puts them on a slightly different level than Barnum’s suckers lining up to see the “egress”. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2003, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-bad-about-jack-t-chick/167218/55 "2003-04-09T03:33:08Z")
I’ve heard, though, that some Christian vendors have kicked him out, because of his attacks on Catholicism. I mean, c’mon, he believes in the Illuminati! ---
**Author:** ![Drastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Drastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drastic)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2003, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-bad-about-jack-t-chick/167218/56 "2003-04-09T03:38:09Z")
I’m very dubious that that’s a better level, personally. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2003, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-bad-about-jack-t-chick/167218/57 "2003-04-09T05:04:26Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Gaijin \* > **I learned that, as a matter of fact, just as in Jack’s latest “The Man in Black,” that the ‘True Christians’ took the ‘True Bible’ with them as they fled into the mountains/undergound/somewhere, and the ‘True Word’ was kept secret and uncorrupted through the ‘Seven Church Ages’ until some crazy prophet brought it back into the public eye not a scant 50 years ago.** 50 years ago? Even though Jack Chick believes that [the King James Version is the only “True” English translation of said “True Bible”](http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0031/0031_01.asp)? I could’ve sworn the King James Version was written a weeeeee bit farther in the past than a scant 50 years ago. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-bad-about-jack-t-chick/167218.md?page=2)