# What's so bad about Mitt Romney? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 22, 2011, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-bad-about-mitt-romney/603710 "2011-11-22T02:50:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-bad-about-mitt-romney/603710/81 "2011-11-25T22:19:35Z")
> [@](#): > > we have had enough liberalism in Washington . we cant keep spending money we don’t have . If we had enough liberalism, we wouldn’t be spending money we don’t have, we’d keep revenue up so that we _would_ have the money to spend. ---
**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-bad-about-mitt-romney/603710/82 "2011-11-25T22:37:33Z")
> [@abandaman](#): > > mitt he cant be trusted as a conservative. we have had enough liberalism in Washington . we cant keep spending money we don’t have . there like drunks there is never enough [money] the more we give them the more they will squander[regardless of party]. in my view the biggest reason we don’t need Mitt is his record on the second amendment Yes. Clearly you are against capital spending. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-bad-about-mitt-romney/603710/83 "2011-11-25T23:47:04Z")
> [@Finagle](#): > > Yes. Clearly you are against capital spending. I see what you did there. ---
**Author:** ![abandaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a183cd/32.png) [@abandaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/abandaman)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-bad-about-mitt-romney/603710/84 "2011-11-25T23:59:00Z")
not even the federal government can keep spending more forever. the money eventually comes out of our own pockets. a debt of 35,000 per person is excessive. or do you think the money faerie just gives em more? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2011, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-bad-about-mitt-romney/603710/85 "2011-11-26T00:08:38Z")
No, it’s Republicans who believe in the money fairy. Democrats know darned well that the money comes from taxes. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2011, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-bad-about-mitt-romney/603710/86 "2011-11-26T00:13:47Z")
> [@abandaman](#): > > not even the federal government can keep spending more forever. the money eventually comes out of our own pockets. a debt of 35,000 per person is excessive. or do you think the money faerie just gives em more? So, what is your answer, to put one of the GOP religious sociopaths vying for the presidency in office? Because that certainly worked will before. Oh wait, it was an unmitigated disaster, wasn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2011, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-bad-about-mitt-romney/603710/87 "2011-11-26T00:17:04Z")
I remain mildly surprised at the continued existence of Americans who think _the Republican Party_ is the more fiscally responsible one, especially if those same Americans like to praise Reagan. That’s not just historical ignorance, it’s historical contrariness. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2011, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-bad-about-mitt-romney/603710/88 "2011-11-26T03:36:36Z")
> [@abandaman](#): > > not even the federal government can keep spending more forever. the money eventually comes out of our own pockets. a debt of 35,000 per person is excessive. or do you think the money faerie just gives em more? In my lifetime, the only times the federal government showed any sort of fiscal discipline was when there was a Democrat in the White House. ---
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2011, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-bad-about-mitt-romney/603710/89 "2011-11-26T03:58:47Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > In my lifetime, the only times the federal government showed any sort of fiscal discipline was when there was a Democrat in the White House. With the same logic, you can say “in my lifetime, the only times the federal government showed any sort of fiscal discipline was when Republicans controlled both the Senate and the House.” ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2011, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-bad-about-mitt-romney/603710/90 "2011-11-26T06:56:19Z")
> [@Terr](#): > > With the same logic, you can say “in my lifetime, the only times the federal government showed any sort of fiscal discipline was when Republicans controlled both the Senate and the House.” I suppose you could say that but it wouldn’t be an accurate statement. ---
**Author:** ![Untoward\_Parable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/51bf81/32.png) [@Untoward\_Parable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Untoward_Parable)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2011, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-bad-about-mitt-romney/603710/91 "2011-11-26T18:35:34Z")
Unless something has changed recently nothing is “wrong” with him and he’ll be the republican nominee because he’s got a purty mouth. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2011, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-bad-about-mitt-romney/603710/92 "2011-11-26T19:29:03Z")
> [@rogerbox](#): > > They still do, just the revisionist aka mainstream mormons decry them as not true mormons…even though those mormons are the ones living exactly as their founder said they should. [shrug] Any group that tries to live and think like the early Christians is a cult and should be treated as such. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2011, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-bad-about-mitt-romney/603710/93 "2011-11-26T23:37:17Z")
> [@Terr](#): > > With the same logic, you can say “in my lifetime, the only times the federal government showed any sort of fiscal discipline was when Republicans controlled both the Senate and the House.” Even if what you said was true (which it isn’t) what relevance does that have in a discussion of presidential candidates? ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-bad-about-mitt-romney/603710/94 "2011-11-27T18:25:02Z")
From the article Pennies from Heaven in the October 2011 Harper’s: > [@](#): > > Not long before his death, Smith spoke to a small group of his followers, assuring them that Mormons would rise up to claim their special, divinely mandated stature in the New World when the American republican experiment fell to pieces. > > “You will see the constitution of the United States almost destroyed,” Smith proclaimed. “It will hang by a thread.” With the federal government in shambles, he predicted, the Mormon church would dispatch elders “to gather the honest in heart… to stand by the Constitution of the United States… In these days God will set up a Kingdom, never to be thrown down… [T]he whole of the Americas will be made the Zion of our God.” I really would not appreciate a POTUS who believes in a religion that includes such America-specific prophesies, especially from a guy who has flipped on every single issue _other than_ his Mormonism. Especially in the context of a GOP that seems to be doing everything in their power to manufacture a constitutional crisis, or economic crisis, an unjust-war crisis, or you name it. And a GOP that has long humored the theocratic fantasies of other religious sub-groups for their own political advantage. I want a guy who is interested in solving problems. Nobody on the GOP side comes across as that guy, even if Romney bears the closest resemblance (Mormonism aside, he is capable of behaving in an articulate and professional manner). I know, they talk about solving problems, but when the answer always involves things like no regulations on corporate giants, tax cuts for the wealthy, corporations=people and so on, all based on righteous ideological arguments rather than careful analysis, then hell no thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-bad-about-mitt-romney/603710/95 "2011-11-27T18:41:54Z")
I’m expecting Romney to convert to some more popular flavor of Christianity any day now. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-bad-about-mitt-romney/603710.md?page=4)