# What's so great about Katie Holmes?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [November 7, 2006, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-great-about-katie-holmes/379408 "2006-11-07T10:46:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![Loopydude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@Loopydude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loopydude)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-great-about-katie-holmes/379408/21 "2006-11-07T18:23:48Z")

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[QUOTE=Kythereia]  
[Pictorial](http://www.tiscali.nl/images/9/8/Katie_Holmes0121.jpg) [proof](http://www.republika.pl/katie_holmes_nude_celebs_2314/katie-holmes-010.jpg).

I think Natalie’s got that ‘oomph’ that Katie lacks–Katie’s very very cute, but she just seems _too_ girl-next-door to pull off celebrity status.  
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Natalie’s kinda twiggy, though. Give poor Katie some props for the cleavage, huh? 😃

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-great-about-katie-holmes/379408/22 "2006-11-07T18:27:10Z")

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I can’t get past her crooked mouth.

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**Author:** ![The\_Octagon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f9b8f/32.png) [@The\_Octagon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Octagon)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-great-about-katie-holmes/379408/23 "2006-11-07T18:32:01Z")

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I agree, those sharp knees are off-putting.

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**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-great-about-katie-holmes/379408/24 "2006-11-07T18:41:13Z")

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[QUOTE=Kalhoun]  
I think she’s more talented than Tom. I don’t for one minute believe she’s in love with him.  
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Well, if she was really a talented actress, you’d believe it! 😃

I was very impressed with her in\* Pieces of April\*, but the rest of her resume is rather yawn worthy.

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**Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-great-about-katie-holmes/379408/25 "2006-11-07T18:49:42Z")

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Minor hijack:

A buddy of mine sat next to her on an airplane - they were both flying from North Carolina, where he had project work and she was just starting work on _Dawson’s Creek_ - back to New York. The talked and he got her number. He thought she was pretty cute and told us all that he met this girl who was an actress on this new TV series. This all happened before the show was even on, so we didn’t know “Katie Holmes” from Eve - she was just this girl Tom got digits from on an airplane…for about another 6 months or so, then things blew up and she got all “It” girl…

He never called her because he was too busy. Seriously. :smack:

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-great-about-katie-holmes/379408/26 "2006-11-07T18:59:29Z")

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I liked her in [_Teaching Mrs. Tingle,_](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teaching_Mrs._Tingle) but it wasn’t exactly the most challenging role ever. And Marisa Coughlin kept stealing my attention.

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**Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-great-about-katie-holmes/379408/27 "2006-11-07T19:05:09Z")

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I think she’s exceptionally pretty.

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**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-great-about-katie-holmes/379408/28 "2006-11-07T19:16:04Z")

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[QUOTE=WhyNot]  
Well, if she was really a talented actress, you’d believe it! 😃

I was very impressed with her in\* Pieces of April\*, but the rest of her resume is rather yawn worthy.  
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Yes, I liked that movie a lot! I couldn’t believe it was her!!

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**Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-great-about-katie-holmes/379408/29 "2006-11-07T21:23:44Z")

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[QUOTE=garygnu]  
Katie Holes was riding popular culture to fame long before Tom.  
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And THAT would be good acting from somebody! 😃

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**Author:** ![Ensign\_Edison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ab992/32.png) [@Ensign\_Edison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ensign_Edison)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-great-about-katie-holmes/379408/30 "2006-11-07T21:27:19Z")

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I’m still trying to figure out how come the other chick from Go isn’t more famous. Now _she_ was cute. Katie Holmes has a face like a sack of sad kittens.

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**Author:** ![Cerowyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/82dd89/32.png) [@Cerowyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cerowyn)\
**Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-great-about-katie-holmes/379408/31 "2006-11-07T22:08:40Z")

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[QUOTE=Gangster Octopus]  
I can’t get past her crooked mouth.  
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Maybe if she opened wider?

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**Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-great-about-katie-holmes/379408/32 "2006-11-07T23:37:13Z")

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[QUOTE=Ensign Edison]  
I’m still trying to figure out how come the other chick from Go isn’t more famous. Now _she_ was cute. Katie Holmes has a face like a sack of sad kittens.  
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You mean Sarah Polley, who’s mainly stuck with smaller indie films and Canadian TV. She’s not well-known in the US, with a few exceptions. She was the annoying child in **The Adventures of Baron Munchausen** and was the star in the recent (really good, I thought) **Dawn of the Dead** remake. I know her from smaller films like **Last Night** , **eXistenZ** (back when no one had heard of Jude Law either), **Go** , **The Claim** , and **The Sweet Hereafter**. I take it that she’s been doing another television series in Canada, where she’s from. I’m sure she’s much more famous there.

I liked Katie Holmes in **Go**. Her character started out being very ordinary/goodie two-shoes and then you found out that she was actually interesting and could hold her own against the creepy drug dealer. I’d never watched Dawson’s Creek so **Go** was my first exposure to her, and I was impressed back then.

Now, Tom can have her. I have no emotional connection with her the way I did Nicole Kidman and Penelope Cruz (cheers were heard round these parts when I heard of both breakups).

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**Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-great-about-katie-holmes/379408/33 "2006-11-07T23:44:03Z")

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[QUOTE=Equipoise]  
You mean Sarah Polley, who’s mainly stuck with smaller indie films and Canadian TV.  
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I didn’t mean “stuck with” in that that’s all she could get, but rather that’s been her choice.

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**Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-great-about-katie-holmes/379408/34 "2006-11-07T23:48:52Z")

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She’s rich. Works for me.

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**Post date:** [November 7, 2006, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-great-about-katie-holmes/379408/35 "2006-11-07T23:56:28Z")

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[QUOTE=Equipoise]  
You mean Sarah Polley, who’s mainly stuck with smaller indie films and Canadian TV.  
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Big Sarah Polley fan here.  
Katie Holmes? Kinda bland.

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**Post date:** [November 8, 2006, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-great-about-katie-holmes/379408/36 "2006-11-08T00:50:19Z")

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[QUOTE=McNew]  
Check out _The Gift_. Rrrrrrowwwrrrrr.

To elaborate on my original answer to the OP, I don’t think there was ever anything necessarily great about her, other than being a nice looking wholesome girl-next-door cutie. But when big bad Tom Cruise ensnared her in his wicked web, the world rebelled in a “how can nut job TC spoil our little sweetheart” sort of way.  
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You, sir, took my answer. The answer is, always has been, and will be “The Gift”. See that movie…and you will know.

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**Post date:** [November 8, 2006, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-great-about-katie-holmes/379408/37 "2006-11-08T01:41:30Z")

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Without makeup (or… feminizing makeup) she has a 13 year old pretty-boy face. She always has a weird smirk too. I don’t think her tits are all that great either. Over all, she’s nothing spectacular.

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**Post date:** [November 8, 2006, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-great-about-katie-holmes/379408/38 "2006-11-08T01:46:07Z")

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I’m a big Sarah Polley fan. I don’t even think she’s exceptionally attractive, but she’s got acting chops.

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**Post date:** [November 8, 2006, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-great-about-katie-holmes/379408/39 "2006-11-08T04:46:43Z")

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I’m a big Sarah Polley fan as well. I’ll watch chick flicks on WE if she’s in them, which is hig praise indeed. I liked her in all the movies mentioned so far, plus Guinevere, The I Inside, and The Weight of Water. I recently heard that she was second in line for the Kate Hudson role in Almost Famous, which is a shame. I liked Hudson in the role, but I think Polley would have done much better with it. Speaking of Almost Famous, Kate Holmes is similar to Anna Paquin. Very, very cute.

As for Holmes, I thought she was out of place in Batman Begins. She’s not really blockbuster material. But I thought she was good in Wonder Boys and Pieces of April. (Every time I make pancakes – which is pretty much every weekend – I think of her: “I’m the first pancake.”)

“13 year old pretty-boy face”? Uh, no.

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**Post date:** [November 8, 2006, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-so-great-about-katie-holmes/379408/40 "2006-11-08T06:22:49Z")

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[QUOTE=Gangster Octopus]  
I can’t get past her crooked mouth.  
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Gads, I thought I was the only one who noticed that! Did she have a stroke or a palsy, or somethin’?

(Not to mention that I’ve only ever seen her in Batman Begins…tell me, does she always make you feel like wiping the lipstick off her face with a morning star, or was that just the character? If the latter, maybe she’s a better actress than I thought.)

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