# What's supposed to be fun about Mao?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 20, 2007, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-supposed-to-be-fun-about-mao/412600 "2007-07-20T23:27:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
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**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2007, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-supposed-to-be-fun-about-mao/412600/21 "2007-07-21T21:01:34Z")

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The first and last time I played or ever will play Mao, I got handed some cards. They did something. It went around. I was completely unable to figure out what they were doing, except that it seemed like a psychotic version of Hearts with unfathomable rules. The basic rules of the game rules then changed with every round.

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**Author:** ![Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc8723/32.png) [@Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fish)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2007, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-supposed-to-be-fun-about-mao/412600/22 "2007-07-21T21:07:22Z")

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[QUOTE=mr. jp]  
The fun is when you learn it, and start making challenging plays for them to figure out.  
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I keep coming back to this quote and thinking, “Then why doesn’t the game **start here?** ”

If this truly were the fun part, there seems to be no point to the whole figure-out-the-rules-yourself-you-dumbass part of gameplay except for perverse cruelty.

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**Author:** ![mr.jp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/48db29/32.png) [@mr.jp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mr.jp)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2007, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-supposed-to-be-fun-about-mao/412600/23 "2007-07-22T00:13:27Z")

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[QUOTE=Fish]  
I keep coming back to this quote and thinking, “Then why doesn’t the game **start here?** ”

If this truly were the fun part, there seems to be no point to the whole figure-out-the-rules-yourself-you-dumbass part of gameplay except for perverse cruelty.  
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That is the whole gameplay. Later you get to make rules that they are to figure out.

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**Author:** ![Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc8723/32.png) [@Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fish)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2007, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-supposed-to-be-fun-about-mao/412600/24 "2007-07-22T03:13:37Z")

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But during the period when you’re learning the rules, and the other players already know them, what’s in it for them?

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2007, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-supposed-to-be-fun-about-mao/412600/25 "2007-07-22T17:56:35Z")

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[QUOTE=mr. jp]  
That is the whole gameplay. Later you get to make rules that they are to figure out.  
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Which is exactly like hazing. Members of a fraternity make the pledges suffer not because it makes any sense but because _they_ had to suffer to get in.

I’m with **Fish.** Count me out of the “asshole” version of this game.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2007, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-supposed-to-be-fun-about-mao/412600/26 "2007-07-22T18:05:04Z")

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Am I the only one who thought this thread was about a dead Chinese dictator? I opened it thinking “who the hell says he’s supposed to be fun?”

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