# What's that clown music?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 4, 2004, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-that-clown-music/243542 "2004-05-04T22:43:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2004, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-that-clown-music/243542/81 "2004-05-11T17:20:47Z")

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> [@Lamia](#):
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> Okay, no worries then. 🙂
> 
> To continue throwing out titles, Carl Orff’s “O Fortuna” from _Carmina Burana_ is a good one I learned about back in music class. It’s the dramatic Latin choral piece often used for medieval battle scenes…or for introducing a new line of powerful automobiles or athletic shoes. Although it sounds trumphant, it’s about cursing the cruelty of fate. Oh, and while the lyrics do come from a medieval poem, Orff was a 20th century composer.

I love this piece. I associate it specifically with _Excalibur_ and in general with cataclysmic clashes between the forces of good and evil. Unfortunately, every time this music comes on, my wife perks up and says “Old Spice!” Apparently in the 1980s in India, where she grew up, the music was used in an Old Spice (aftershave lotion) commercial. (groan)

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**Author:** ![rowrrbazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rowrrbazzle/32/414_2.png) [@rowrrbazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rowrrbazzle)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2004, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-that-clown-music/243542/82 "2004-05-11T19:20:20Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> I swear, there’s a web site out there somewhere (and I’ll find it if I get a chance) that lets you transcribe a melody into a simple start-higher-lower-lower-higher notation, and finds a match.

[http://name-this-tune.com/](http://name-this-tune.com/)

[http://www.themefinder.org/](http://www.themefinder.org/)

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2004, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-that-clown-music/243542/83 "2004-05-11T19:48:59Z")

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Thanks, **rowrbazzle** – it was [http://name-this-tune.com](http://name-this-tune.com) that I had seen before.

So, cool homework assignment: somebody whistle the doot-doot-doodle-doodle-doot-doot-dah-dum into the applet, and see if it comes back with “Entry of the Gladiators”.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2004, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-that-clown-music/243542/84 "2004-05-11T19:55:55Z")

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> [@Slithy Tove](#):
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> To clear out a few more:
> 
> The “factory music” in Warner Bro’s cartoons is “Powerhouse” by Raymond Scott.
> 
> Alfred Hitchcocks theme music was “Funeral March for Marionettes” by Charles Gounod.
> 
> In old U.S. TV shows every establishing shot of London had “Rule Britannia.”
> 
> If in the UK but other than London, it was “In an English Country Garden.”
> 
> If in Paris, the can-can from Offenbach’s “Orpheus in the Underworld.”
> 
> If in Russia, “Meadowlands” (the Red Cavalry anthem that Michale Palin sang with the Russian sailors), or “Song of the Volga Boatmen” (“yo-oh heave ho”)
> 
> The sun always rises to either the opening of Grieg’s “Pier Gynt,” or Rossini’s "William Tell Overture (the part before the Lone Ranger music.)

Good list! One more…in old movies and TV shows, every establishing shot of a college or university features “Gaudeamus Igitur”.

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2004, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-that-clown-music/243542/85 "2004-05-11T20:22:35Z")

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I wonder if “Shopping Spree” on [this collection](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000000IAW/104-1336370-2365528?v=glance) is the one I’m thinking of? Gotta Google it at home, where I have audio.

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**Post date:** [May 12, 2004, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-that-clown-music/243542/86 "2004-05-12T13:52:04Z")

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No doubt this has already been covered elsewhere on the SDMB or by Cecil himself but I’m too lazy and fed-up with dial-up to search for it myself (no doubt someone will post a link momentarily).

However, what the hell is that “Neener-neener-neener” song that EVERY kid around the world knows and uses to taunt others with?

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**Post date:** [May 12, 2004, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-that-clown-music/243542/87 "2004-05-12T14:43:14Z")

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I don’t know about “neener, neener, neener” but “nah, nah-nah, nah-nah, nah” is probably from “A-Tisket, A-Tasket”, a good example of which can be found [here](http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=1007847).

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**Author:** ![Pashnish\_Ewing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8797f3/32.png) [@Pashnish\_Ewing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pashnish_Ewing)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2004, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-that-clown-music/243542/88 "2004-05-12T15:22:51Z")

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> [@Eve](#):
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> I wonder if “Shopping Spree” on [this collection](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000000IAW/104-1336370-2365528?v=glance) is the one I’m thinking of? Gotta Google it at home, where I have audio.

Eve, I’ve listened to each one of the samples from that album (a complete list can be found [here](http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=1195756)), but I haven’t found a match. Some of them are sooooo close, with all the plinking and the plunking. I also checked the short list of samples from this [other](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000000IAX/qid%3D1084373710/sr%3D11-1/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F1/104-9578871-8757560) TV Dinner CD, but still no luck.

I found some other suggestions from this thread and they were also close, but no match ( **Plink, Plank, Plunk!** and **Jazz Pizzicato** are both on this [Leroy Anderson](http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=1206661) CD).

The only bit of good news from my search is I found the “generic quiz show bonus question theme”, which I believe was used on \*\* The Joker’s Wild\*\* and a few others. It’s **Syncopated Clock** from the Leroy Anderson link.

Pash

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**Post date:** [May 12, 2004, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-that-clown-music/243542/89 "2004-05-12T17:42:11Z")

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“Neener neener neener” is to the tune of “Ring Around The Rosie” I do believe.

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**Post date:** [May 12, 2004, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-that-clown-music/243542/90 "2004-05-12T17:58:39Z")

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Still no clue on the Chinese tune?

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**Post date:** [May 12, 2004, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-that-clown-music/243542/91 "2004-05-12T20:29:15Z")

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It would help if you could give a better example. Is what you’re referring to part of the bridge in “China Grove”?

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**Post date:** [May 12, 2004, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-that-clown-music/243542/92 "2004-05-12T20:38:55Z")

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> [@](#):
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> How about that surfing/beach music? I was actually wondering about this a few days ago.
> 
> Does anyone know what I’m referring to?

Though Dick Dale pioneered the surf rock movement, the quintessential surfing song is **Wipeout by The Sufaris**.

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**Author:** ![Pashnish\_Ewing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8797f3/32.png) [@Pashnish\_Ewing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pashnish_Ewing)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2004, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-that-clown-music/243542/93 "2004-05-12T21:50:15Z")

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> [@Jeff Olsen](#):
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> It would help if you could give a better example. Is what you’re referring to part of the bridge in “China Grove”?

I think you can hear it in (oddly enough) **Turning Japanese** by The Vapors. there is a sample clip on [this page](http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=1931754) (song 9 - you can hear it between the :08 - :11 mark). **Max** , can you verify?

I’ll bet **Vision of Love** ’s surf/beach music can be found on [this](http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=1054721) CD (my money is on Dick Dale’s **Miserlou** ).

Pash

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**Post date:** [May 12, 2004, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-that-clown-music/243542/94 "2004-05-12T22:05:00Z")

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> [@Lamia](#):
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> Wow, I’m better at this than I thought, because I can do this one too! It’s “Mah-Na Mah-Na”, by Piero Umiliani. It originally appeared in, of all things, a 1968 documentary about drugs, suicide, and the sexual underworld called _Sweden: Heaven or Hell_.

Actually it’s **Mah Nà Mah Nà** (note the accents, which you can see on the album cover on the Umiliani link above).

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**Post date:** [May 12, 2004, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-that-clown-music/243542/95 "2004-05-12T22:08:31Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> Good list! One more…in old movies and TV shows, every establishing shot of a college or university features “Gaudeamus Igitur”.

Unless it’s a sports match, in which case it’s (IIRC) the Notre Dame fight song (or, more rarely, _On Wisconsin_).

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**Post date:** [May 13, 2004, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-that-clown-music/243542/96 "2004-05-13T13:21:14Z")

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> [@Pashnish Ewing](#):
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> I think you can hear it in (oddly enough) **Turning Japanese** by The Vapors. there is a sample clip on [this page](http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=1931754) (song 9 - you can hear it between the :08 - :11 mark). **Max** , can you verify?

That’s the one. I couldn’t think of a piece of music that incorporated it, but, yes, the beginning of Turning Japanese also has those 9 notes I think. Now then, where did it originate?

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**Post date:** [May 13, 2004, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-that-clown-music/243542/97 "2004-05-13T13:30:12Z")

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> [@Max Carnage](#):
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> Still no clue on the Chinese tune?

It’s something that can be played on all white keys on a piano, like Chopsticks. Keep the fingers a fifth apart, and you can play those few notes that everybody recognizes.

It probably came from some ancient movie that had the stereotypical inscrutable oriental parting the bead curtains, smoking a water pipe, and offering a serving girl to the visiting detective.

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**Post date:** [May 13, 2004, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-that-clown-music/243542/98 "2004-05-13T13:32:04Z")

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> [@Pashnish Ewing](#):
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> I think you can hear it in (oddly enough) **Turning Japanese** by The Vapors. there is a sample clip on [this page](http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=1931754) (song 9 - you can hear it between the :08 - :11 mark). **Max** , can you verify?

Yeah, that must be it. I think the problem was **Max** was a bit off in his numerical scale. the segment in “Turning Japanese” is more like 3232 33 11 3

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**Post date:** [May 13, 2004, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-that-clown-music/243542/99 "2004-05-13T14:24:14Z")

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The thing is that is more of a riff or a motiff then an actual tune. It just kind of has that ‘Oriental’ harmony sound. Just play on the black keys of a piano and you can have your own Oriental or Native American sound.

That particular one may have been written for something like a Charlie Chan serial or something like that and then just re-used over and over.

Though I’m wonder now if you listend to Mikado if you wouldn’t hear it there.

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**Post date:** [May 13, 2004, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-that-clown-music/243542/100 "2004-05-13T14:48:16Z")

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> [@Zebra](#):
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> The thing is that is more of a riff or a motiff then an actual tune. It just kind of has that ‘Oriental’ harmony sound. Just play on the black keys of a piano and you can have your own Oriental or Native American sound.
> 
> That particular one may have been written for something like a Charlie Chan serial or something like that and then just re-used over and over.
> 
> Though I’m wonder now if you listend to Mikado if you wouldn’t hear it there.

It’s not part of the **Mikado** score.

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