# what's the "anti-misogyny policy"? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [December 14, 2018, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-anti-misogyny-policy/826085 "2018-12-14T00:31:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-anti-misogyny-policy/826085/101 "2018-12-14T19:12:01Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > I suspect you’re about to get henpecked for using the descriptor “hot”, but I’ll wait and see. Henpecked is a misogynist word. Okay? Here’s the rule about not being a jerk to women: would you say that about a man? If not, don’t say it. This rule has been stated ad nauseum but men are deaf to it. We can’t scream it any louder. ---
**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-anti-misogyny-policy/826085/102 "2018-12-14T19:14:06Z")
> [@madsircool](#): > > Its like the sexual revolution of the 1960s never happened. 😛 For some men, it really didn’t. Ha ha ha. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-anti-misogyny-policy/826085/103 "2018-12-14T19:28:32Z")
> [@Ulfreida](#): > > For some men, it really didn’t. Ha ha ha. And yet the 1970s and its fixation on “honesty,” no matter how hurtful, did happen. “I’m just telling it like it is,” has been used to cover all manner of hateful statements. Not successfully because it just shows how big a dick–er, asshole (all God’s children got assholes)–the person is. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-anti-misogyny-policy/826085/104 "2018-12-14T19:32:55Z")
> [@Ulfreida](#): > > Henpecked is a misogynist word. Okay? > > Here’s the rule about not being a jerk to women: would you say that about a man? If not, don’t say it. > > This rule has been stated ad nauseum but men are deaf to it. We can’t scream it any louder. I don’t remember where I heard it, but a good rule of thumb is _never say anything to a woman you wouldn’t want to hear a man say to you in prison._ ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-anti-misogyny-policy/826085/105 "2018-12-14T19:52:18Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > The guidelines you listed are for posts dropped into other threads. IvoryTowerDenizen said she felt the ED ad model thread ventured into Penthouse forum territory which is another rule. That’s a fair point. Of course, it isn’t clear how mentioning how a model in an ED ad can cure ED is venturing into Penthouse territory. Nor why mentioning attractiveness of a model is misogynistic, in a situation where being attractive is her primary or sole qualification. She’s a model, for heaven’s sake. But mentioning attractiveness in an equivalent way, towards someone like Kelly Conway, for whom attractiveness is not her primary or sole qualification, is OK. That seems odd. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-anti-misogyny-policy/826085/106 "2018-12-14T20:15:33Z")
I don’t think mentioning a model is attractive is going to get modded as long as you keep erectile \ out of it. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-anti-misogyny-policy/826085/107 "2018-12-14T20:31:58Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > That’s a fair point. Of course, it isn’t clear how mentioning how a model in an ED ad can cure ED is venturing into Penthouse territory. How does the poster know that the model has cured his ED? I see no way to read **Ace** ’s statement without understanding that something that was not erect is now erect. Can we (and have we) had discussions about ED as a topic? Yes. Do we need to discuss exactly who gets someone hard? No. ---
**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-anti-misogyny-policy/826085/108 "2018-12-14T21:06:28Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > …is staying abreast of the contours of new rules. I’m laughing that nobody seems to have spotted this from the OP. **HurricaneDitka** : 1 Thread posters: 0 ---
**Author:** ![crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@crucible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crucible)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-anti-misogyny-policy/826085/109 "2018-12-14T21:09:55Z")
> [@kayT](#): > > This is a joke, right? Or have you really no idea how patronizing “fairer sex” sounds? i’ve not had any woman of my acquaintance object to the term. Nor, “better half”. “The wife”, however, draws stern rebukes. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-anti-misogyny-policy/826085/110 "2018-12-14T21:12:11Z")
> [@RaftPeople](#): > > I’m laughing that nobody seems to have spotted this from the OP. > > **HurricaneDitka** : 1 > > Thread posters: 0 Except in the [very first reply](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21376908&postcount=2)… Raft People: -1 ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-anti-misogyny-policy/826085/111 "2018-12-14T21:25:12Z")
Someone asking where the line is is fine. Someone repeatedly engaging in suspect behaviors, and then going “Am I in trouble now? How about now? How about now?”, is going to get the answer “yes, you’re in trouble”. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-anti-misogyny-policy/826085/112 "2018-12-14T21:44:17Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > That’s a fair point. Of course, it isn’t clear how mentioning how a model in an ED ad can cure ED is venturing into Penthouse territory. > > Nor why mentioning attractiveness of a model is misogynistic, in a situation where being attractive is her primary or sole qualification. She’s a model, for heaven’s sake. But mentioning attractiveness in an equivalent way, towards someone like Kelly Conway, for whom attractiveness is not her primary or sole qualification, is OK. > > That seems odd. > > Regards, > Shodan Post #46 directly addresses this point. ---
**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-anti-misogyny-policy/826085/113 "2018-12-14T21:47:13Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > A better analogy is that of a baker who wants to know the maximum amount of objectionable materials permitted by the FDA so he can pack his blintzes and bear claws with as many rat turds as possible without getting shut down. “Ah, but the rules say no rat _turds_, however my rat has diarrhoea, so technically they aren’t turds singular, more of a noisome lumpy stream. So I can still hold it over the batter and squeeze, right? It’s not against the rules”. ---
**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-anti-misogyny-policy/826085/114 "2018-12-14T22:15:42Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > So why is “Certainly puts a smile on my face when I log in. If she can’t cure ED no one can.” a misogynist thing but “Has it been that long since I got laid, or is it okay to find her moderately attractive with the cliche’ chauvinistic term of “I wouldn’t kick her out of bed”?” not? Or, to pull some other examples from the Conway thread: > > Is “got my motor running every time I saw her” really better / less-offensive in some significant way than “If she can’t cure ED no one can”? I’m 99% sure that if those comments had been reported, they would’ve been moderated. Did you report them? I didn’t see them because I stopped reading the thread, but I would’ve if I had. It’s been my observation that the only time those kinds of posts aren’t moderated is because the mods haven’t seen them. ---
**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-anti-misogyny-policy/826085/115 "2018-12-14T22:20:42Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > A number of posters seem fine with the Conway thread, even though it was full of shit that I have no difficulty imaging would “make women members not want to be here”: Sorry to double-post. **ITD** said she saw no problem with the OP. I said I read only a couple of posts. I never went back to it or I would’ve found the comments you’ve referenced revolting. As I said, the mods can’t mod if they don’t see the problem. If you see crap like that again, please do report it! Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-anti-misogyny-policy/826085/116 "2018-12-14T22:32:19Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > Except in the [very first reply](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21376908&postcount=2)… > > Raft People: -1 DOH! I actually read that first reply two times and still didn’t spot it. RaftPeople: -2 and kicked off the island ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-anti-misogyny-policy/826085/117 "2018-12-14T22:45:51Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Not going to defend Ace’s post, but there is something schizophrenic about a site serving up busty blonde ads for ED medicines but declaring discussion of them offensive. > [@pulykamell](#): > > That thought absolutely crossed my mind, as well. I pay not to see ads, but the irony or whatever was not lost on me. > [@pulykamell](#): > > OK, so can we say that maybe serving up ads about erectile dysfunction featuring a woman with pert breasts with erect nipples poking out a tank top could be construed a bit, perhaps, counterproductive to the board culture we’re trying to cultivate here? > [@engineer\_comp\_geek](#): > > **Moderator Note** > > As far as I am aware, this ad was not reported as inappropriate by anyone. Now that our admin is aware of it, the ad folks have been contacted to make sure that the ad gets removed. > > At the moderation level, we have no control over the ads. But we can report inappropriate or problematic ads. If you see an ad that has inappropriate content, hijacks your browser or takes you away from the page, can’t be closed, or otherwise causes issues, please report it. > > Screen captures are helpful, along with any other info that can help us track down where the ad is coming from. I contacted the Sun-Times advertising people about the ad. It’s not on their list of allowed material. > [@](#): > > _We definitely try to keep ads like this off our site. I will try to identify the source of this ad and block it. I would block it for the image though, more than whatever product it is that they are advertising. It may not be malware or some sort of nefarious phishing scam. It might be for a legitimate product, but the image is something we try to keep off our site. I have a category block in place for “Sexual Aids” products but as you can see they slip through._ It’s understood – or should be – that bad ads do sometimes sneak in. It’s happened before and it will happen again. Sun-Times management works hard to try to keep it from happening; among other things, if they figure out where that bad ad comes from, they drop that content provider completely. So there’s a financial hit on the ad company that lets this kind of thing slip through and this helps keep them in compliance with standards. That being said, bad actors are sneaky and they will continue to look to find ways to exploit situations. As mentioned above, many of the problems we experience in this regard are not actually legitimate ads at all, but carriers of malware and other bad actors that hijack real ads; that’s how they get by the ad providers. Everyone exercises due diligence but occasionally the bad guys are successful. I’m not surprised that an entity peddling an ED cure would look for ways to circumvent the ban imposed by filters on topics like “Sexual Aids;” like all the other advertisers out there, they want to broadcast as widely as possible. We’ve always said “if you see something inappropriate report it.” This includes ads. You should never assume that STM supports or endorses every ad on its site. I’ve been told this ad has run for the better part of two weeks; no one reported it until now. If you think an ad is inappropriate say so. Tell a mod, send me an email, say something. We don’t see every post, we don’t see every ad, we can’t work on what we don’t know about. We will make every effort to investigate a situation and block an ad as necessary. That being said, one person’s offensive is someone else’s business opportunity and the judgement of Sun-Times management prevails in these instances. I think for the most part they come down on the good side. They want you to stick around and play here and click on ads and stuff, they want your goodwill. So do we. Jenny your humble TubaDiva Administrator ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-anti-misogyny-policy/826085/118 "2018-12-14T22:46:55Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > This recent thread (“[as much of a reprehensible liar as she is, I still find Kellyanne Conway physically attractive](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=866881)”) didn’t attract a rebuke from the mods (in fact, it had some mild participation by the very one I quoted in the OP), so apparently some amount of “drool-slobber” is still acceptable. > > Does it matter if the woman in question is on the right or left politically? Does the gender of the person whose physical beauty is being judged matter? A celebrity is different. They get work on the basis of their appearance, they bank on it, they change it, and they choose to get into that game. I dont see anything wrong with saying _“Wow, on that episode of the Muppets, Raquel Welch was sure hot during her dance number!”._ That said, you still have to maintain some class and refrain from being a drool monster. ---
**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2018, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-anti-misogyny-policy/826085/119 "2018-12-14T23:52:41Z")
> [@crucible](#): > > i’ve not had any woman of my acquaintance object to the term. Nor, “better half”. “The wife”, however, draws stern rebukes. To the extent that you know me, you know one. Without taking a poll, I would say that the only women I know who would not object are so tough that they wouldn’t bother, they would just pick up your truck and throw it in the river. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2018, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-anti-misogyny-policy/826085/120 "2018-12-15T04:30:50Z")
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