What's the big deal with "their" ?

Spammer reported. (Homan)

Does that include the distant past of when that post came from (14 years ago)? :smiley:

Unfortunately, English hasn’t developed a consensus gender-neutral set of pronouns, so we’re still stuck with “masculine as default”, “awkward conjunction format”, or “plural means singular”.

Singular they is how English does gender-neutral pronouns, and has been for centuries. Only a few yobbos try to fight against it.

To be fair, the thread was resurrected by a spammer who has since been wished away to the cornfield. Broomstick was just replying to what seemed like a current thread.

This is what I came in to say.

But now, “your son or daughter” is verboten because it excludes non-binary or undefined gender persons.

Next we’ll have someone saying that “your child” contains an implied ownership of the child, and is an oppresive reminder of the enslaved treatment of minor children!

English has used singular “they” for centuries. If it was good enough for Shakespeare, it’s good enough for me.

But it takes a genius to break the rules and get away with it.

You’ve got to ask yourself one question: “Do I feel lucky?”
Well, do ya, punk?
:slight_smile:

As it happens, there’s now a drama program on the Showtime cable channel called Billions that features a character named Taylor Mason who identifies as non-binary. Upon being introduced to the main character of the show, Taylor said something like, “My preferred pronouns are they, their, and them.” The actor who plays the role, Asia Kate Dillon, also identifies as non-binary. I read somewhere that the show’s creator and writer got the idea of adding a non-binary character after his children (one in high school and one in college) mentioned that their instructors asked students about their preferred pronouns.

I can’t be the only person who thinks referring to someone as “it” is super rude. I wouldn’t even call the cat “it.”

From Chasing Amy: The Pronoun Game
01:01:47

-* For your information, they don’t have big hair or wear acid-wash. They’re from my hometown.

  • Why are you playing the pronoun game?
  • What are you talking about? I’m not.
  • You are. I met “someone.” “We” have a great time. “They’re” from my hometown. Does this tube of wonderful have a name?*

There’s some humor I suppose in the irony that “tube of wonderful” is a gender-ambiguous term too…

Who created this rule? When did the rule get created? Where does it say in the rule book that a mule can’t kick a field goal?

English once had a commonly used second-person singular pronoun, “thou”. It’s been more or less replaced by the second-person plural pronoun, “you”. That blunts any complaints against using “they” because it’s plural. We’ve already transitioned to a grammatically plural pronoun for use with an individual once, we can do it again with a third-person pronoun.