# What's the "critical mass" needed for the D's to nominate someone other than Biden in 2024?

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**Created:** [July 27, 2022, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-critical-mass-needed-for-the-ds-to-nominate-someone-other-than-biden-in-2024/968630 "2022-07-27T04:35:49Z")\
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**Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-critical-mass-needed-for-the-ds-to-nominate-someone-other-than-biden-in-2024/968630/30 "2022-07-27T21:35:04Z")

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> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> That might be a useful reference for seeing which Democrats are currently in favor. According to that, Manchin is the second-most popular Democratic senator in the country, at 57% approval.

Yes- because _Republicans are liking him_. Which means nothing in a Dem primary, and very little in the General. Few Republicans will pick any Dem, even Manchin over trump.

\*\* Over the past year, Manchin has doubled his approval rating among West Virginia Republicans, to 69%.\*

> [@Omniscient](#):
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> Biden BARELY won as the most middle of the road candidate possible

Exactly. So a big move to the left means a loss.

Buttigieg is openly gay, and a instant loss, not to mention he has little experience.

> [@Sam\_Stone](#):
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> And that’s why you don’t want to run her, not because Republicans are racists.

I do not care what _Republicans_ think of her. The 538 polls I showed with _just Dems_, shows her beating everyone but Biden, and usually beating trump, but there it is very close. Popularity today means nothing, since EVERY.SINGLE. REPUBLICAN will rank every single Dem as “utterly craptastic” with the apparent exception of Manchin in his own state.

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