# What's the deal with pizza sauce? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 30, 2011, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-deal-with-pizza-sauce/576560 "2011-03-30T20:52:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dmatsch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3be4f8/32.png) [@dmatsch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dmatsch)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-deal-with-pizza-sauce/576560/1 "2011-03-30T20:52:59Z")
I like to cook. I also like to make spaghetti sauce from scratch, and it generally comes out tasting exactly like spaghetti sauce. Pizza sauce, though. What’s the deal with this? It has a slightly different flavor that I can’t put my finger on, and ingredients on the jar aren’t helping. Putting spag sauce on a pizza or cheesesteak just isn’t the same. Got any ideas? ---
**Author:** ![Chum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ab097/32.png) [@Chum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chum)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-deal-with-pizza-sauce/576560/2 "2011-03-30T21:01:14Z")
It seems to generally contain a bit more oregano and salt. The best recipe I’ve found so far is from Cook’s Illustrated: [Thin-Crust Pizza](http://www.cooksillustrated.com/recipes/detail.asp?docid=26804). You just whir some ingredients together in the food processor and spoon the sauce onto the pizza crust. Couldn’t be much easier, and it’s super delicious. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-deal-with-pizza-sauce/576560/3 "2011-03-30T21:51:23Z")
Having lately gotten into making my own pizza sauce (no, I haven’t yet found the perfect recipe) I’ve observed that it has to be a lot thinner than spaghetti sauce, possibly to let the cheese overpower it (in a good way.) ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-deal-with-pizza-sauce/576560/4 "2011-03-30T22:13:36Z")
Oregano, I’m also guessing. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-deal-with-pizza-sauce/576560/5 "2011-03-30T22:19:05Z")
There are as many different types of pizza sauces as pasta sauces, because there is no real difference. I know of several restaurants that use the same sauce for pizza, pasta, ciopinno, and any variety of dishes, and I’ve never made any distinction when buying or making sauces. Most of what I’ve seen at the grocery labelled as pizza sauce seem to be marketed as something easier to use than other sauces. One was in a squeeze bottle, the others were in jars that looked no easier to open and pour than the other sauces. ---
**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-deal-with-pizza-sauce/576560/6 "2011-03-30T22:23:59Z")
> [@kunilou](#): > > Having lately gotten into making my own pizza sauce (no, I haven’t yet found the perfect recipe) I’ve observed that it has to be a lot thinner than spaghetti sauce, possibly to let the cheese overpower it (in a good way.) I disagree, generally a good pizza sauce is much tighter and concentrated than a spaghetti sauce. But if you subscribe to the simple, classical, “nothing but crushed tomatoes” recipe, I can see where you are coming from… which is not really pizza sauce to me. American Pizza sauce is usually a concentrated sauce, probably best characterized by processed, industrial, Tomato Paste, and Tomato Sauce balanced by sugar and salt, and heavily seasoned with spices (Garlic and Onion Powder, Oregano, and others.). Usually with a very specific viscosity bordering on the thick side of tomato. Lends itself to spreading and uniformity. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-deal-with-pizza-sauce/576560/7 "2011-03-30T22:29:18Z")
For an American-style pizza sauce, my guess is what you’re tasting is probably the oregano. Dried basil and garlic powder also feature prominently in American-style sauces, and sugar or even honey is quite common (at least in the Chicago area–lots of thin crust places here tend to have fairly sweet sauces.) If it’s a licorice-y taste you can’t quite peg, that’s fennel seed. Some places like thyme, as well. Other common ingredients would be olive oil and red pepper flakes. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-deal-with-pizza-sauce/576560/8 "2011-03-30T22:50:37Z")
It’s got to be the sugar. I also agree with **devilsknew**. ---
**Author:** ![Renee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/renee/32/287_2.png) [@Renee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Renee)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2011, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-deal-with-pizza-sauce/576560/9 "2011-03-30T23:49:32Z")
I’m a fan of this recipe: [http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Exquisite-Pizza-Sauce/Detail.aspx](http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Exquisite-Pizza-Sauce/Detail.aspx) ---
**Author:** ![typoink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@typoink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/typoink)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-deal-with-pizza-sauce/576560/10 "2011-03-31T00:37:13Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > For an American-style pizza sauce, my guess is what you’re tasting is probably the oregano. Dried basil and garlic powder also feature prominently in American-style sauces, and sugar or even honey is quite common (at least in the Chicago area–lots of thin crust places here tend to have fairly sweet sauces.) If it’s a licorice-y taste you can’t quite peg, that’s fennel seed. Some places like thyme, as well. Other common ingredients would be olive oil and red pepper flakes. This post nails it. When I was about ten years old, my mom taught me how to “make” pizza sauce at home: grab the spaghetti sauce from the fridge, spread it on the dough, and add a few shakes of McCormick “Italian Seasoning.” Voila! Something pretty much indistinguishable from canned pizza sauce. A pew pinches of sugar woulda sealed the deal. Nowadays, when I make pizza, I start with tomato paste and season up from there with spices, salt, peppers, and onions. ---
**Author:** ![Athena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/35a633/32.png) [@Athena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Athena)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-deal-with-pizza-sauce/576560/11 "2011-03-31T01:41:28Z")
> [@Chum](#): > > It seems to generally contain a bit more oregano and salt. > > The best recipe I’ve found so far is from Cook’s Illustrated: [Thin-Crust Pizza](http://www.cooksillustrated.com/recipes/detail.asp?docid=26804). You just whir some ingredients together in the food processor and spoon the sauce onto the pizza crust. Couldn’t be much easier, and it’s super delicious. I’ll second this recipe. I was a bit dubious the first time I made it, but I’m a convert now. It’s a bright, fruity sauce, incredibly easy, and delicious. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-deal-with-pizza-sauce/576560/12 "2011-03-31T12:57:00Z")
I’ve only recently begun making my own sauce, and the recipe is still a work in progress. So far I’m using it for both pasta and pizza, but I can see making it a little thicker for pizza, more like tomato paste. I think a thicker sauce sort of cements the other ingredients to the crust, rather than having them slide around. ---
**Author:** ![Paintcharge](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paintcharge/32/7946_2.png) [@Paintcharge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paintcharge)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-deal-with-pizza-sauce/576560/13 "2011-03-31T14:15:10Z")
I’ve been working on perfecting my pizza recipe for years, and still am not there. The best sauce I’ve come up with is based on Jeff Varsano’s [recipe](http://www.varasanos.com/PizzaRecipe.htm). 1 Can San Marzano tomatoes. Salt Pepper Fresh basil Pour the tomatoes into a bowl. Rip the tops off the tomatoes and get rid of most of the seeds. Put the seeded tomatoes into a different bowl. Squish them with your hands. Salt and pepper to taste. Fresh basil. No need to cook the sauce, as it cooks with the pizza. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-deal-with-pizza-sauce/576560/14 "2011-03-31T15:22:15Z")
That’s exactly my approach, except I don’t use basil in the sauce (if I do use fresh basil, it goes on after the pie is done cooking), and I’ll sometimes add a little bit of crushed oregano and/or garlic, depending on what I’m going for. A good pizza “sauce” really only needs good tomatoes and doesn’t need to be cooked. That’s a more Old World approach, though, to pizza. ---
**Author:** ![Turble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Turble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turble)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-deal-with-pizza-sauce/576560/15 "2011-03-31T16:20:21Z")
I do a very simple sauce: 28 ounce can of tomatoes (I like Redpack), a clove of minced garlic, and a teaspoon of dried oregano. Hit it with the stick blender and let it sit in the refrigerator overnight, take it out to warm to room temperature before using. Pretty much the comments I get are along the line of “nom nom nom any more nom nom nom.” Pizza is about the crust, not the sauce. Oregano is the key flavor to pizza sauce. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2011, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-deal-with-pizza-sauce/576560/16 "2011-03-31T16:25:16Z")
> [@Turble](#): > > Pizza is about the crust, not the sauce. I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.