# What's the deal with Trump's Inaguration Committee's inability to secure "A" list talent? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 3, 2017, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-deal-with-trumps-inaguration-committees-inability-to-secure-a-list-talent/776192 "2017-01-03T02:03:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2017, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-deal-with-trumps-inaguration-committees-inability-to-secure-a-list-talent/776192/201 "2017-01-20T15:51:04Z")
> [@Pantastic](#): > > I think this shows a lot about people’s voting motivation - Obama had a lot of people who really believed strongly in him personally. Meanwhile a lot of Trump’s support is more of the ‘lets send a crazy outsider to Washington and shake them up’ or ‘anyone but Hillary’ or ‘things are bad, lets try SOMETHING that’s not establishment’. And maybe a little bit of “If I can’t get what I want, I’ll fuck things up for _everybody_”. ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2017, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-deal-with-trumps-inaguration-committees-inability-to-secure-a-list-talent/776192/202 "2017-01-20T16:51:53Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > That said, Kanye interrupting the Oath of Office to announce “Imma let you finish but Teddy Roosevelt was the best President ever” would certainly liven things up. Well, he is not wrong on this one. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2017, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-deal-with-trumps-inaguration-committees-inability-to-secure-a-list-talent/776192/203 "2017-01-20T23:09:55Z")
[Can You Tell the Difference Between These Two Inauguration Photos?](http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/01/20/can_you_tell_the_difference_between_these_two_inauguration_photos.html) (Well, besides the fact that one of them is zoomed in to about twice the magnification of the other so that it’s possible to make out any crowd at all…) ---
**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-deal-with-trumps-inaguration-committees-inability-to-secure-a-list-talent/776192/204 "2017-01-21T15:07:43Z")
I didn’t expect this to happen: I’m actually feeling sorry for Trump. Clearly he is a man who cares about his image. He wants approval, admiration. Here he has achieved something that is really remarkable. How many people get voted President, after all? And in return, he receives heaping servings of contempt and disapproval. Day after day of mockery and scorn. Humans are social animals. It _matters_ to us how our fellows react to us. Yes, yes, I’m sure he does his best to discount it, ignore it, deny it. But it has to hurt. And on-going psychological trauma can have bad effects, all the way up to madness and suicide. Understand: I didn’t, and don’t, want Trump as our President. I sincerely hope we can somehow prevent him from carrying out virtually all of the goals promised during his campaign. But the idea of watching anyone be emotionally tortured day after day for years? Are you really up for that? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-deal-with-trumps-inaguration-committees-inability-to-secure-a-list-talent/776192/205 "2017-01-21T15:22:33Z")
> [@StarvingButStrong](#): > > I didn’t expect this to happen: I’m actually feeling sorry for Trump. > > Clearly he is a man who cares about his image. He wants approval, admiration. Here he has achieved something that is really remarkable. How many people get voted President, after all? > > \*\*And in return, he receives heaping servings of contempt and disapproval. Day after day of mockery and scorn. \*\* > > Humans are social animals. It _matters_ to us how our fellows react to us. Yes, yes, I’m sure he does his best to discount it, ignore it, deny it. But it has to hurt. And on-going psychological trauma can have bad effects, all the way up to madness and suicide. > > Understand: I didn’t, and don’t, want Trump as our President. I sincerely hope we can somehow prevent him from carrying out virtually all of the goals promised during his campaign. > > But the idea of watching anyone be emotionally tortured day after day for years? Are you really up for that? If you had listened to a single thing he said during the campaign, you wouldn’t ask this. If you had read about even a single example of his business dealings, you wouldn’t ask this. If you knew of a single instance of how he treats those with less power, you wouldn’t ask this. ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-deal-with-trumps-inaguration-committees-inability-to-secure-a-list-talent/776192/206 "2017-01-21T15:26:02Z")
> [@StarvingButStrong](#): > > I didn’t expect this to happen: I’m actually feeling sorry for Trump. > > Clearly he is a man who cares about his image. He wants approval, admiration. Here he has achieved something that is really remarkable. How many people get voted President, after all? > > And in return, he receives heaping servings of contempt and disapproval. Day after day of mockery and scorn. > > Humans are social animals. It _matters_ to us how our fellows react to us. Yes, yes, I’m sure he does his best to discount it, ignore it, deny it. But it has to hurt. And on-going psychological trauma can have bad effects, all the way up to madness and suicide. > > Understand: I didn’t, and don’t, want Trump as our President. I sincerely hope we can somehow prevent him from carrying out virtually all of the goals promised during his campaign. > > But the idea of watching anyone be emotionally tortured day after day for years? Are you really up for that? He thrives on attention, and now he’ll get his fill. Any mockery and scorn he gets he brought upon himself. He’s had every opportunity to present his positive side. I don’t think he has one. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-deal-with-trumps-inaguration-committees-inability-to-secure-a-list-talent/776192/207 "2017-01-21T15:27:13Z")
> [@StarvingButStrong](#): > > I didn’t expect this to happen: I’m actually feeling sorry for Trump. > > Clearly he is a man who cares about his image. He wants approval, admiration. Here he has achieved something that is really remarkable. How many people get voted President, after all? > > And in return, he receives heaping servings of contempt and disapproval. Day after day of mockery and scorn. > > Humans are social animals. It _matters_ to us how our fellows react to us. Yes, yes, I’m sure he does his best to discount it, ignore it, deny it. But it has to hurt. And on-going psychological trauma can have bad effects, all the way up to madness and suicide. > > Understand: I didn’t, and don’t, want Trump as our President. I sincerely hope we can somehow prevent him from carrying out virtually all of the goals promised during his campaign. > > But the idea of watching anyone be emotionally tortured day after day for years? Are you really up for that? If I’d ever seen him show an ounce of genuine compassion or empathy to anyone who he wasn’t try to manipulate or exploit, maybe. But he never ever has. If, with all that money and privilege he has, the entire bedrock of your personality is still a compulsive need for validation and approval at the expense of everyone else, then that’s your own psychological house of cards. Outside of the death of one of his children (which I obviously hope doesn’t happen, no matter how detestable he is), I can’t imagine ever having an iota of sympathy for him after everything he’s said and done. Sent from my SCH-I435 using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-deal-with-trumps-inaguration-committees-inability-to-secure-a-list-talent/776192/208 "2017-01-21T16:14:34Z")
> [@StarvingButStrong](#): > > Clearly he is a man who cares about his image. He wants approval, admiration. Here he has achieved something that is really remarkable. How many people get voted President, after all? > > And in return, he receives heaping servings of contempt and disapproval. Day after day of mockery and scorn. It’s almost as though respect and admiration are earned. ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-deal-with-trumps-inaguration-committees-inability-to-secure-a-list-talent/776192/209 "2017-01-21T16:28:46Z")
> [@StarvingButStrong](#): > > I didn’t expect this to happen: I’m actually feeling sorry for Trump. > > Clearly he is a man who cares about his image. He wants approval, admiration. Here he has achieved something that is really remarkable. How many people get voted President, after all? > > And in return, he receives heaping servings of contempt and disapproval. Day after day of mockery and scorn. Suppose for a moment that he wasn’t a sexist pig, a pathological liar, an immature brat who would take to Twitter to say Einstein was overrated if he thought Einstein had insulted him, a chiseler and cheat in business deals, a shameless panderer to the lowest instincts of the mob, and not only a complete ignoramus on almost any subject he’s supposed to make policy on, but too lazy to even attend briefings to help alleviate that ignorance. Suppose he started his term with a completely clean slate. He would still merit heaping servings of contempt and disapproval, and day after day of mockery and scorn, just for what he is doing right now — appointing people to cabinet-level positions whose main qualification seems to be their antipathy, if not hostility, to their department’s or agency’s mission; and refusing to divest his business interests, even those directly dependent on the good will of foreign governments. I could list more, but he’s not worth the effort. ---
**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-deal-with-trumps-inaguration-committees-inability-to-secure-a-list-talent/776192/210 "2017-01-21T16:33:07Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > If you had listened to a single thing he said during the campaign, you wouldn’t ask this. > > If you had read about even a single example of his business dealings, you wouldn’t ask this. > > If you knew of a single instance of how he treats those with less power, you wouldn’t ask this. But: I _have_ spend the last half year or so reading reports about what he said. (Haven’t actually sat through an entire speech of his.) I _have_ read many stories about his less than honest business dealings. I _have_ read about ways he has treated those he regards as less worthy. I’m not at all arguing he is an admirable man. But I still don’t find it in me to relish the idea of watching him being the target of unending blows for the next years. > [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > He thrives on attention, and now he’ll get his fill. Any mockery and scorn he gets he brought upon himself. He’s had every opportunity to present his positive side. I don’t think he has one. Yes. You can argue he _deserves_ what he is getting. That is not the same as to say it is good for us to dish it out or relish it happening. Suppose it was physical instead of psychological punishment? Would you be okay if each blow landed on his body instead of his psyche? If each impact caused physical, measurable damage, no matter how small? The only way I could justify this is if I thought that the punishment would have a beneficial effect. If his hunger for admiration is great enough that he will change his course to pursuing goals we agree with or at least abandoning the ones we abhor – then maybe it’s necessary and ultimately for a greater good. But I don’t see that as happening. He’s long set in his ways and beliefs. ☹ What I imagine happening is him hunkering down, withdrawing, becoming more extreme. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-deal-with-trumps-inaguration-committees-inability-to-secure-a-list-talent/776192/211 "2017-01-21T17:00:57Z")
> [@StarvingButStrong](#): > > But the idea of watching anyone be emotionally tortured day after day for years? Are you really up for that? Well, gee whiz, what do you think Obama has had to sit through for the last eight years? Never ending praise, lauded far and wide by every man, woman and child in this great nation? I don’t friggin’ think so. He seems to have come out on top of it. What is Trump? Some special snowflake or something? ---
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-deal-with-trumps-inaguration-committees-inability-to-secure-a-list-talent/776192/212 "2017-01-21T17:13:33Z")
> [@StarvingButStrong](#): > > But: I _have_ spend the last half year or so reading reports about what he said. (Haven’t actually sat through an entire speech of his.) > > I _have_ read many stories about his less than honest business dealings. > > I _have_ read about ways he has treated those he regards as less worthy. > > I’m not at all arguing he is an admirable man. But I still don’t find it in me to relish the idea of watching him being the target of unending blows for the next years. > > Yes. You can argue he _deserves_ what he is getting. That is not the same as to say it is good for us to dish it out or relish it happening. > > Suppose it was physical instead of psychological punishment? Would you be okay if each blow landed on his body instead of his psyche? If each impact caused physical, measurable damage, no matter how small? > > The only way I could justify this is if I thought that the punishment would have a beneficial effect. If his hunger for admiration is great enough that he will change his course to pursuing goals we agree with or at least abandoning the ones we abhor – then maybe it’s necessary and ultimately for a greater good. > > But I don’t see that as happening. He’s long set in his ways and beliefs. ☹ > > What I imagine happening is him hunkering down, withdrawing, becoming more extreme. The Bible is trump’s favorite book, so he’s probably familiar with that whole “reaping what you sow” business. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-deal-with-trumps-inaguration-committees-inability-to-secure-a-list-talent/776192/213 "2017-01-21T17:50:43Z")
> [@StarvingButStrong](#): > > I didn’t expect this to happen: I’m actually feeling sorry for Trump. > > Clearly he is a man who cares about his image. He wants approval, admiration. Here he has achieved something that is really remarkable. How many people get voted President, after all? > > And in return, he receives heaping servings of contempt and disapproval. Day after day of mockery and scorn. > > Humans are social animals. It _matters_ to us how our fellows react to us. Yes, yes, I’m sure he does his best to discount it, ignore it, deny it. But it has to hurt. And on-going psychological trauma can have bad effects, all the way up to madness and suicide. > > Understand: I didn’t, and don’t, want Trump as our President. I sincerely hope we can somehow prevent him from carrying out virtually all of the goals promised during his campaign. > > But the idea of watching anyone be emotionally tortured day after day for years? Are you really up for that? You got to get real. donnie might have a breakdown, but it is all that he asked for. He begged for it. You can’t save someone from themselves. God should help _ **us** _ from him. Feeling sorry for him? OMG. I would go so far as to say that his fans actually want him to fail deep down inside: In the terminology of pro wrestling he is the “heel.” He created so much bad karma that there will be a real deficit until he is brought down. And his voters know this unconsciously. ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-deal-with-trumps-inaguration-committees-inability-to-secure-a-list-talent/776192/214 "2017-01-21T17:56:45Z")
> [@StarvingButStrong](#): > > But: I _have_ spend the last half year or so reading reports about what he said. (Haven’t actually sat through an entire speech of his.) > > I _have_ read many stories about his less than honest business dealings. > > I _have_ read about ways he has treated those he regards as less worthy. > > I’m not at all arguing he is an admirable man. But I still don’t find it in me to relish the idea of watching him being the target of unending blows for the next years. > > Yes. You can argue he _deserves_ what he is getting. That is not the same as to say it is good for us to dish it out or relish it happening. > > Suppose it was physical instead of psychological punishment? Would you be okay if each blow landed on his body instead of his psyche? If each impact caused physical, measurable damage, no matter how small? > > The only way I could justify this is if I thought that the punishment would have a beneficial effect. If his hunger for admiration is great enough that he will change his course to pursuing goals we agree with or at least abandoning the ones we abhor – then maybe it’s necessary and ultimately for a greater good. > > But I don’t see that as happening. He’s long set in his ways and beliefs. ☹ > > What I imagine happening is him hunkering down, withdrawing, becoming more extreme. The blows that you are referring to are the democracy trying to save itself. Unless you don’t want that. Would you prefer that he not be questioned on anything so that he is not upset? Is that beneficial to the country? That’s why we have a free fucking press, and we got to hope they learn to deal with this situation better than during the campaign, because I’m much more worried about the mental stability of the electorate if they just go along with this clown show anymore. Jeeezuz. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-deal-with-trumps-inaguration-committees-inability-to-secure-a-list-talent/776192/215 "2017-01-21T18:02:20Z")
Every president gets flack. If Trump can’t psychologically handle someone pointing out – factually – that his inauguration got a fraction of Obama’s inauguration, then he better resign now. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-deal-with-trumps-inaguration-committees-inability-to-secure-a-list-talent/776192/216 "2017-01-21T18:02:51Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > [Can You Tell the Difference Between These Two Inauguration Photos?](http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/01/20/can_you_tell_the_difference_between_these_two_inauguration_photos.html) > > (Well, besides the fact that one of them is zoomed in to about twice the magnification of the other so that it’s possible to make out any crowd at all…) I’d need to see time stamps. Pretty sure I saw a similar set and the Trump one was taken an hour before the Inauguration started, and the Obama one as it was happening. It wouldn’t surprise me that Obama had a larger crowd, but the picture proves nothing. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-deal-with-trumps-inaguration-committees-inability-to-secure-a-list-talent/776192/217 "2017-01-21T18:07:03Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > I’d need to see time stamps. Pretty sure I saw a similar set and the Trump one was taken an hour before the Inauguration started, and the Obama one as it was happening. It wouldn’t surprise me that Obama had a larger crowd, but the picture proves nothing. There’s a pair(Obama, Trump) taken at the same time. There’s another one taken about 45 min earlier (Trump) but the crowd is almost the same size (98%-illustrative, not a measured amount) You can see the difference but you have to know where to look. [Vox-25 minutes apart.](http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/1/20/14332462/photos-crowd-trump-inauguration-vs-obama) ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-deal-with-trumps-inaguration-committees-inability-to-secure-a-list-talent/776192/218 "2017-01-21T18:10:28Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > I’d need to see time stamps. Pretty sure I saw a similar set and the Trump one was taken an hour before the Inauguration started, and the Obama one as it was happening. It wouldn’t surprise me that Obama had a larger crowd, but the picture proves nothing. I think the pair I’ve seen the most often were maybe 30min apart. Unless Trump’s crowd grew 8x in a half hour, it’s grasping at straws to pretend it made a difference. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-deal-with-trumps-inaguration-committees-inability-to-secure-a-list-talent/776192/219 "2017-01-21T18:17:53Z")
It’s not that we want the plane to crash. It’s more that we’re sitting in our seats and realizing that our new pilot has a souvenir Junior Air Captain’s certificate from Joe-Bob’s Flyin’ Machine Museum ‘n’ Bait Shop. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2017, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-deal-with-trumps-inaguration-committees-inability-to-secure-a-list-talent/776192/220 "2017-01-21T18:28:42Z")
> [@StarvingButStrong](#): > > Yes. You can argue he _deserves_ what he is getting. That is not the same as to say it is good for us to dish it out or relish it happening. We used to have a competent President who explained the option available to him if he can’t stand the heat. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-deal-with-trumps-inaguration-committees-inability-to-secure-a-list-talent/776192.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-deal-with-trumps-inaguration-committees-inability-to-secure-a-list-talent/776192.md?page=12)