# What's the difference between apple juice and apple cider?

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [February 13, 2011, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-difference-between-apple-juice-and-apple-cider/571195 "2011-02-13T07:09:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![casdave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c6cbf5/32.png) [@casdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/casdave)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2011, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-difference-between-apple-juice-and-apple-cider/571195/21 "2011-02-13T21:02:52Z")

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I’m just trying to emphasise the differance, we would never call apple juice - cider, and we would always mean an alcoholic drink when we use the word cider.

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**Author:** ![ChrisBooth12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@ChrisBooth12](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChrisBooth12)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-difference-between-apple-juice-and-apple-cider/571195/22 "2011-02-14T01:48:13Z")

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a true cider can ferment i think and apple juice doesnt?

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-difference-between-apple-juice-and-apple-cider/571195/23 "2011-02-14T02:11:55Z")

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> [@ChrisBooth12](#):
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> a true cider can ferment i think and apple juice doesnt?

Apple juice ferments fine, as long as it’s not sorbated. But, yeah, if you have a regular farmhouse, unpasteurized cider, you can just leave that and let nature take its course.

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**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-difference-between-apple-juice-and-apple-cider/571195/24 "2011-02-14T23:00:39Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> If it’s clear and yella, you got juice there, fella.  
> If it’s tangy and brown, you’re in Cidertown!
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> …of course, in Canada, the whole thing’s flip-flop.

…I dunno about you, but I ain’t ever seen any brown, tangy apple juice. If I bought juice like that I’d think it went bad somehow.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-difference-between-apple-juice-and-apple-cider/571195/25 "2011-02-14T23:42:12Z")

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> [@kushiel](#):
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> …I dunno about you, but I ain’t ever seen any brown, tangy apple juice.

Where I shop, it is always in the cooler near the produce section, in half gallon plastic bottles like milk comes in.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2011, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-difference-between-apple-juice-and-apple-cider/571195/26 "2011-02-14T23:46:50Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Where I shop, it is always in the cooler near the produce section, in half gallon plastic bottles like milk comes in.

Or even gallon jugs. Looks like [this](http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_zp8Fn_8Lico/SRiGlPlX6VI/AAAAAAAAELk/QZf94_8UkR4/s1600-h/apple_cider.jpg).

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**Author:** ![Celyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9dc877/32.png) [@Celyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Celyn)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2011, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-difference-between-apple-juice-and-apple-cider/571195/27 "2011-02-15T01:32:36Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> Apple juice ferments fine, as long as it’s not sorbated. But, yeah, if you have a regular farmhouse, unpasteurized cider, you can just leave that and let nature take its course.

And add a dead dog! 😃

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**Author:** ![Boulter\_s\_Canary](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e79b87/32.png) [@Boulter\_s\_Canary](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boulter_s_Canary)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-difference-between-apple-juice-and-apple-cider/571195/28 "2011-02-18T02:25:58Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> Ah, it’s been years since I’ve read Pratchett, but I agree that “scumble” is most likely a linguistic riff on “scrumpy.”

Not just the name:

_It’s not true about the rats, or the snakes’ heads, or the lead shot. The one about the dead sheep is a complete fabrication_

All of the stories referenced there are stories about scrumpy (The dead sheep is a dead dog in the scrumpy story, but the gory details are probably the same).

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**Author:** ![Celyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9dc877/32.png) [@Celyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Celyn)\
**Post date:** [February 18, 2011, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-difference-between-apple-juice-and-apple-cider/571195/29 "2011-02-18T03:47:09Z")

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> [@](#):
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> In the year of sixteen forty-two, in a little cider mill  
> A poor old dog lay down to rest 'cause he was feeling ill  
> He chose a most precarious perch above the apple press  
> An in his sleep he tumbled in and perished in distress  
> …

😃  
[http://www.mysongbook.de/msb/songs/s/scrumpy.html](http://www.mysongbook.de/msb/songs/s/scrumpy.html)

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/NhzhwawbMrQ/hqdefault.jpg "Dead Dog Scrumpy.(written by Trevor Crozier)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhzhwawbMrQ)

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