# What's the difference between calling a poster a c\*\*t and...

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**Created:** [May 19, 2014, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-difference-between-calling-a-poster-a-c-t-and/688718 "2014-05-19T06:50:40Z")\
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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2014, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-difference-between-calling-a-poster-a-c-t-and/688718/21 "2014-05-19T15:41:00Z")

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Oh, I too think the Pit rules are a little ridiculous, but if they’re there, I’d prefer even-handed, predictable enforcement rather than “It’s OK to break or skirt the rules if nobody like your victim”

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**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2014, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-difference-between-calling-a-poster-a-c-t-and/688718/22 "2014-05-19T15:42:39Z")

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Heh, I wondered if this would be coming up. People get so het up about the c-word around here. But it’s not even a technicality. Saying someone \*has \*a cunt is not the same as saying they \*are \*a cunt.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2014, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-difference-between-calling-a-poster-a-c-t-and/688718/23 "2014-05-19T15:46:54Z")

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And telling someone to stuff a cactus up theirs, is neither. But _is_ ‘directed at’ the victim

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2014, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-difference-between-calling-a-poster-a-c-t-and/688718/24 "2014-05-19T15:53:45Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> And rappers have reclaimed nigger - i dare you to use it in a Pit thread, though…

If “nigger” was also the crude name of a body part, I’d have no trouble using it. It just has basically the one use though and Michael Richards ruined it for everybody.

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**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2014, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-difference-between-calling-a-poster-a-c-t-and/688718/25 "2014-05-19T15:54:38Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> And telling someone to stuff a cactus up theirs, is neither. But _is_ ‘directed at’ the victim

There’s precedent. I can’t locate the post in my history, but I was not warned for telling someone to fornicate him/herself with a cactus in a previous Pit thread. It was awhile ago.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2014, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-difference-between-calling-a-poster-a-c-t-and/688718/26 "2014-05-19T16:00:22Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Theatre of the Nonny, more like.

Theatre of the accurate, more like.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2014, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-difference-between-calling-a-poster-a-c-t-and/688718/27 "2014-05-19T16:01:35Z")

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> [@Rachellelogram](#):
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> There’s precedent. I can’t locate the post in my history, but I was not warned for telling someone to fornicate him/herself with a cactus in a previous Pit thread. It was awhile ago.

I’ve already pointed out that “cunt” and “fuck” are different, but perhaps I need to elaborate - one is an equal opportunity swear, the other is just misogynistic.

Unless you’re claiming you were being all womyn when you posted, which …yeah, I wouldn’t believe for a minute.

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**Author:** ![Erdosain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/erdosain/32/7284_2.png) [@Erdosain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erdosain)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2014, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-difference-between-calling-a-poster-a-c-t-and/688718/28 "2014-05-19T16:07:14Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Unless you’re claiming you were being all womyn when you posted, which …yeah, I wouldn’t believe for a minute.

What does this even mean?

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2014, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-difference-between-calling-a-poster-a-c-t-and/688718/29 "2014-05-19T16:13:23Z")

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> [@Erdosain](#):
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> What does this even mean?

[LMGTFY](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Womyn)

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**Author:** ![Erdosain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/erdosain/32/7284_2.png) [@Erdosain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erdosain)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2014, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-difference-between-calling-a-poster-a-c-t-and/688718/30 "2014-05-19T16:18:31Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> [LMGTFY](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Womyn)

Yes, I am aware of the meaning of the word womyn, it was the whole sentence that didn’t make sense.

Google that and get back to us.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2014, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-difference-between-calling-a-poster-a-c-t-and/688718/31 "2014-05-19T16:24:38Z")

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> [@Erdosain](#):
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> Yes, I am aware of the meaning of the word womyn, it was the whole sentence that didn’t make sense.

English not your first language?

I was saying the word is misogynistic “…unless you’re claiming you were using it in some sort of feminist context (“being all womyn”), which I would not believe was true given the hateful content”

Maybe if I’d used quotes around womyn? ‘…being all “Womyn!”…’

Not that I believe you actually didn’t understand my post, you understand…

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**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2014, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-difference-between-calling-a-poster-a-c-t-and/688718/32 "2014-05-19T16:28:54Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> I’ve already pointed out that “cunt” and “fuck” are different, but perhaps I need to elaborate - one is an equal opportunity swear, the other is just misogynistic.
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> Unless you’re claiming you were being all womyn when you posted, which …yeah, I wouldn’t believe for a minute.

Yeah, you’re moving goalposts now. We done?

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**Author:** ![Erdosain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/erdosain/32/7284_2.png) [@Erdosain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erdosain)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2014, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-difference-between-calling-a-poster-a-c-t-and/688718/33 "2014-05-19T16:31:08Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> English not your first language?
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> I was saying the word is misogynistic “…unless you’re claiming you were using it in some sort of feminist context (“being all womyn”), which I would not believe was true given the hateful content”
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> Maybe if I’d used quotes around womyn? ‘…being all “Womyn!”…’

Fair enough. I still find it hard to attribute misogyny to Rachel’s comment when she was essentially calling out ZPG on her antediluvian anti-woman attitudes.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2014, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-difference-between-calling-a-poster-a-c-t-and/688718/34 "2014-05-19T16:31:57Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> True enough - but if we only cared about abuse when it happens to people we _like_, well, what good would we be?

Very?

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2014, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-difference-between-calling-a-poster-a-c-t-and/688718/35 "2014-05-19T16:57:16Z")

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There’s nothing misogynistic about having a cunt. The word itself is not a misogynistic word.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2014, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-difference-between-calling-a-poster-a-c-t-and/688718/36 "2014-05-19T17:05:06Z")

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> [@jsgoddess](#):
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> There’s nothing misogynistic about having a cunt. The word itself is not a misogynistic word.

Using it in a pejorative context is, though.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2014, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-difference-between-calling-a-poster-a-c-t-and/688718/37 "2014-05-19T17:06:56Z")

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> [@Rachellelogram](#):
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> Yeah, you’re moving goalposts now.

Yeah, the goalposts I “moved” … [before you were even in this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17386688&postcount=8). Those ones.

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> We done?

:rolleyes: This thread isn’t directed at you, sweetie. You can be done whenever you want.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2014, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-difference-between-calling-a-poster-a-c-t-and/688718/38 "2014-05-19T17:08:11Z")

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> [@Erdosain](#):
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> Fair enough. I still find it hard to attribute misogyny to Rachel’s comment when she was essentially calling out ZPG on her antediluvian anti-woman attitudes.

Whereas I recognize the Fallacy of Two Wrongs when I see it…

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2014, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-difference-between-calling-a-poster-a-c-t-and/688718/39 "2014-05-19T17:09:52Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> .:rolleyes: This thread isn’t directed at you, sweetie. You can be done whenever you want.

Misogyny reported.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2014, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-difference-between-calling-a-poster-a-c-t-and/688718/40 "2014-05-19T17:13:11Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Using it in a pejorative context is, though.

If you call someone a cunt it is insulting. If you are insulting a man by comparing him to a woman, that is misogynistic. If you said a man should shove a cactus in his cunt, you are either confused about his sex or being misogynistic. If you say it to a woman, it is not misogynistic.

Cunts. We has them.

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