# What's the electoral impact of the Supreme Court upholding the Affordable Care Act?

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [June 28, 2012, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-electoral-impact-of-the-supreme-court-upholding-the-affordable-care-act/626581 "2012-06-28T14:20:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![CJJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecc23a/32.png) [@CJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CJJ)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2012, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-electoral-impact-of-the-supreme-court-upholding-the-affordable-care-act/626581/41 "2012-07-30T18:10:39Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> Romney is about the worst candidate the Republicans could have chose on this issue. We have the clip of Romney talking about how a mandate is absolutely essential. One of his people, confronted by CNN about it, could just say “well it is different at the state level.”

Update: Over the weekend, Romney [praised](http://www.buzzfeed.com/zekejmiller/romney-praises-israels-socialized-health-care-sys) the Israeli healthcare system…apparently unaware that it is socialist and includes a mandate:

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> “When our health care costs are completely out of control. Do you realize what health care spending is as a percentage of the GDP in Israel? 8 percent. You spend 8 percent of GDP on health care. And you’re a pretty healthy nation,” Romney told donors at a fundraiser at the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, speaking of a health care system that is compulsory for Israelis and funded by the government. “We spend 18 percent of our GDP on health care. 10 percentage points more. That gap, that 10 percent cost, let me compare that with the size of our military. Our military budget is 4 percent. Our gap with Israel is 10 points of GDP. We have to find ways, not just to provide health care to more people, but to find ways to finally manage our health care costs.”

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2012, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-electoral-impact-of-the-supreme-court-upholding-the-affordable-care-act/626581/42 "2012-07-30T18:32:51Z")

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> [@CJJ](#):
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> Update: Over the weekend, Romney [praised](http://www.buzzfeed.com/zekejmiller/romney-praises-israels-socialized-health-care-sys) the Israeli healthcare system…apparently unaware that it is socialist and includes a mandate:

Well he is aware that it wasn’t created by a black, Muslim inteloper, though.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2012, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-electoral-impact-of-the-supreme-court-upholding-the-affordable-care-act/626581/43 "2012-07-30T18:54:30Z")

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Romney praises the Israeli government-provided health care program. Romney undercuts his own attacks on Obama’s “you didn’t build that” pretend-gaffe by making the exact same point Obama was making.

Romney’s just bad at this whole politics thing. Maybe he was pretty good at the state level, but it’s becoming increasingly more clear that Romney is the Ryan Leaf of Presidential Politics.

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**Author:** ![2ManyTacos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/3da27b/32.png) [@2ManyTacos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2ManyTacos)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2012, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-electoral-impact-of-the-supreme-court-upholding-the-affordable-care-act/626581/44 "2012-07-30T18:54:31Z")

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> [@CJJ](#):
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> Update: Over the weekend, Romney [praised](http://www.buzzfeed.com/zekejmiller/romney-praises-israels-socialized-health-care-sys) the Israeli healthcare system…apparently unaware that it is socialist and includes a mandate:

It’s crap like this that makes me think Mittens won’t actually do anything to gut or change the ACA if given the presidency, regardless of whatever bullshit he’s been spewing on the campaign trail. The most - I repeat, the _most_ - that I think Romney would do is issue an executive order that would allow states to opt out of the law if they wanted, but otherwise, he’ll just cement the rest of the bill into place. The GOP isn’t going to win enough seats in the Senate to make an all-out repeal even possible, and Romney won’t sign a reconciliation bill that guts the individual mandate and the insurance subsidies because that’ll throw the entire fucking industry into chaos.

None of that even hits on the larger picture, though: Romney would NOT want the first several months of his presidency to be consumed by a health care repeal battle.

Obama is gonna win anyway though; Mittens’s foreign adventures continue to make him look like the biggest doofus in the universe.

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