# What's the fastest you've gone from really liking a new series to hating it/abandoning it?

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**Created:** [October 26, 2020, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-fastest-youve-gone-from-really-liking-a-new-series-to-hating-it-abandoning-it/923966 "2020-10-26T18:45:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2021, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-fastest-youve-gone-from-really-liking-a-new-series-to-hating-it-abandoning-it/923966/261 "2021-01-27T19:39:54Z")

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Granted, this is not the be all end all, but IMDB ratings show that American Gods has been on a significant downturn since Season 1:

> **[American Gods (2017-2021) ratings - Rating Graph](https://www.ratingraph.com/tv-shows/american-gods-ratings-40577/)**
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> Graphs about ratings and trends of the American Gods TV show based on 47812 user ratings.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2021, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-fastest-youve-gone-from-really-liking-a-new-series-to-hating-it-abandoning-it/923966/262 "2021-01-27T20:33:58Z")

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> [@Ashtura](#):
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> I really _wanted_ to like WandaVision, and I very quickly realized I did not like it. I begrudgingly watched the first two episodes, and still haven’t watched the 3rd, days later. Never thought that would happen with an MCU show.

The episodes have gotten progressively better. I hated the first one, grudgingly accepted the second one, and rather liked the third one. They give you a little more understanding of what’s going on with each episode. Which isn’t to say that it all makes sense now. It doesn’t. But we are hanging on so far.

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**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-fastest-youve-gone-from-really-liking-a-new-series-to-hating-it-abandoning-it/923966/263 "2021-01-28T05:36:14Z")

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> [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> The episodes have gotten progressively better. I hated the first one, grudgingly accepted the second one, and rather liked the third one

Exactly my feelings on the show so far as well.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-fastest-youve-gone-from-really-liking-a-new-series-to-hating-it-abandoning-it/923966/264 "2021-01-28T06:00:41Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> She was in only one epi, which is all she was supposed to be.

[No, she was supposed to be back](https://www.playbill.com/article/kristin-chenoweth-will-not-return-to-starzs-american-gods). My understanding is that it was the same story with Gillian Anderson.

Fuller seems to usually get along great with his actors, not so great with studios and certain producers. I’ve liked many of the things he has developed, but as noted he’s got a truly horrible track record for getting fired/cancelled.

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**Author:** ![wjChia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d6d6ee/32.png) [@wjChia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wjChia)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-fastest-youve-gone-from-really-liking-a-new-series-to-hating-it-abandoning-it/923966/265 "2021-01-28T06:19:56Z")

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Bring back Pushing Daisies/Wonderfalls! _sobs_

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-fastest-youve-gone-from-really-liking-a-new-series-to-hating-it-abandoning-it/923966/266 "2021-01-28T12:58:42Z")

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At first I liked Doctor Foster, sympathizing with her character being wronged by her cheating husband. But then she became as bad as he was and turned into an insufferable bitch. With no character with any redeeming qualities, I abandoned the show in season 2.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2021, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-fastest-youve-gone-from-really-liking-a-new-series-to-hating-it-abandoning-it/923966/267 "2021-01-30T01:02:06Z")

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Great shows, but bring back? Remakes maybe.

Caroline Dhavernas is now in her middle forties, playing a angsty 20 something wouldnt work.

Fox has canceled some great shows. damn them.

The Writers Strike killed Pushing Daisies. Bringing it back is possible.

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
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> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#):
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> > [@Spice\_Weasel](#):
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> > The episodes have gotten progressively better. I hated the first one, grudgingly accepted the second one, and rather liked the third one
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> Exactly my feelings on the show so far as well.

The fourth episode came out today and it was really good, I thought.

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**Post date:** [January 31, 2021, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-fastest-youve-gone-from-really-liking-a-new-series-to-hating-it-abandoning-it/923966/269 "2021-01-31T06:30:43Z")

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I gave up on _Doom Patrol_ about halfway through season one. I enjoyed the premise, and enjoyed the obscure nature of the characters. And I enjoy Danielle Guerrero as an actress. But once we started the trip in her mind to all 64 personalities, and the drag shows and the transvestite street, it just lost my interest.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
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> [@ekedolphin](#):
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> The fourth episode came out today and it was really good, I thought.

Agreed. The initial slog is finally paying off.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [November 2, 2021, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-fastest-youve-gone-from-really-liking-a-new-series-to-hating-it-abandoning-it/923966/271 "2021-11-02T22:09:23Z")

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Props to “The Rookie” for what they did NOT do in the latest epi, Halloween.

“Haunted apartments” turned out to be a creepy guy hiding in the wall spaces.

They resisted the too common having some little supernatural thing happen, after the mundane source was found.

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I really loved the first season of “Heroes”…but I missed the season 1 finale…and never bothered to go back and watch it…and then ultimately stopped caring that I didn’t and barely watched any of season 2…and then just stopped thinking about it.

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I always thought Heroes would have worked better with a completely different story and characters every season. The first season was great. And then…

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**Author:** ![Kimera757](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kimera757/32/3765_2.png) [@Kimera757](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimera757)\
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I dropped a series of novels by W.E.B. Griffin.

In the last book I read, he just teased plot. The protagonist was about to marry a very beautiful ex-Russian spy. By coincidence, we were introduced to another woman who looked exactly like her and just so happened to be in the area where the wedding was going to be held. She wasn’t impressive like an ex-spy though, she was just (literary) eye candy. Anyway, the protagonist’s enemies (Russian spy types, so interested in taking his bride out too) had a good plan to assassinate the two at the wedding. But the assassin saw the look-alike while scouting, fell head over heels in love with her, and ran off with her. The protagonists didn’t even know they were in danger. Who sends a horny assassin to kill a beautiful woman, indeed, one who didn’t fall head over heels in love with his target?

There was also an interesting coup (way less funny to read after January 6th, however) in which several cabinet secretaries moved against a crazy president (formerly veep, got the job for purely political reasons and got promoted to president when the former good president, a supporter of the protagonist, died unexpectedly). The coup failed halfway through the book, but in such a way that the president didn’t know they were planning a coup. He knew something was up though; generally you don’t hold cabinet meetings on a golf course without the president’s knowledge. And then… nothing happened. Obviously book series need sequel hooks, but the entire novel seemed like one long sequel hook.

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You talking about one of the newer ones that is written by his son? Not nearly as good.

Griffin was a formula writer. Read one book no matter what the series and you get the formula. But he knew how to write within the formula well. I enjoyed his books because they are the definition of a quick read. I could knock one out in an afternoon

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If I could remember the name of the book I could check who the actual author was. It was “newer” but probably 2016 or so?

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_Curtain of Death?_ I don’t know I didn’t read that series. He died in 2019. For the last decade of his life the books were written “with” his son but apparently the son was doing most of the writing. His real name was William E. Butterworth. His son is William E. Butterworth IV. The father was extremely prolific and wrote under many names. He wrote most of the MASH sequels.

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I looked it up, but it wasn’t that one. It was a Presidential Agent (Castillo) novel.

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**Post date:** [November 4, 2021, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-fastest-youve-gone-from-really-liking-a-new-series-to-hating-it-abandoning-it/923966/279 "2021-11-04T19:23:22Z")

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Star Trek TNG lost me after two or three episodes when it first ran, and I was a huge Star Trek fan at the time.

The idea of an empath on the bridge questioning the Captain was ridiculous.

The conceit that children were aboard because the Federation was at peace and Enterprise wasn’t a warship, when half the episodes involved battles or dire threats to the Enterprise,

The silly notion that money no longer existed, but Picard could have extremely rare “priceless” artifacts in his possession.

The cheat of the Holodeck allowing them to have no Star Trek plots in a Star Trek show,

Wesley Crusher, the obligatory cute kid because the producers thought they needed a young kid to attract young people to freaking _Star Trek_.

All of it rubbed me the wrong way, and the constant lecturing about how much more enlightened they were compared to us Philistines in the 20th century, while they did all the same stuff 20th century peoole do was very annoying. Later on, the Ferengi appear as a gross caricature of Capitalism. The whole show was partly a Mary Sue for 80’s liberals to feel good about themselves. I understand why they would like it a lot more than me.

We bailed on **Counterpart** in the second aeason. I’m not sure what the problem was, as we loved the first season. It just didn’t hold our interest any more.

We watched the first season of **Locke and Key** , and stuck with it until the end. But it was so unmemorable that we forgot about it, and now the second aeason is out and we have no desire to watch it.

While not a ‘fast’ transition, we have pretty much bailed on **Archer**. The last couple of seasons were awful. It took forever for us to finish the past season - it was our show of last resort. And it was once my favorite show.

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I kept hoping that Wesley would be pushed out an airlock by the 13th episode, and Troi would do something other than sit on the Bridge and look bored.

Oh, and that the Borg would cut the Nursery out of the saucer section and assimilate every last brat on board the _Enterprise_.

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