# What's the "final" word on the Benghazi embassy attack?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-final-word-on-the-benghazi-embassy-attack/639384>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [October 31, 2012, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-final-word-on-the-benghazi-embassy-attack/639384 "2012-10-31T00:39:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2012, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-final-word-on-the-benghazi-embassy-attack/639384/221 "2012-12-31T01:08:11Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Surely you people can’t quibble with my estimation of the Clintons?

Hillary Clinton has reportedly been admitted to the hospital with a blood clot stemming from the concussion.

Still think you are always right on everything you’ve posted on the Dope?

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2012, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-final-word-on-the-benghazi-embassy-attack/639384/222 "2012-12-31T02:11:15Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> Hillary Clinton has reportedly been admitted to the hospital with a blood clot stemming from the concussion.
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> Still think you are always right on everything you’ve posted on the Dope?

A good conspiracy theory always has more layers to go. There is ALWAYS a _post hoc_ explanation that fits the conspiracy. “They” are hiding the truth, don’tcha see?

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2012, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-final-word-on-the-benghazi-embassy-attack/639384/223 "2012-12-31T06:21:13Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> Hillary Clinton has reportedly been admitted to the hospital with a blood clot stemming from the concussion.
> 
> Still think you are always right on everything you’ve posted on the Dope?

Don’t believe I’ve ever said any such thing.

Perhaps a cite would clear up the confusion?

Besides, she didn’t have a clot at the time; the blood clot is only ‘reported’; and its being due to the concussion is only being ‘reported’.

In other words anything can be reported.

Still, she has been out of sight for over a week and no one but her intimates know where she’s been or what her condition is. I would think however that had her illness and concussion been severe enough to keep her at home all this time, I would have thought hospitalization would have been called for long before now.

Maybe she’s genuinely ill, maybe not. But only a fool would take anything either of the Clintons say or do at face value. As much as I detest those two, I wish her no ill. And should it turn out that she has truly been ill and in the way described, I’ll feel badly for her. But I won’t for a second feel foolish for questioning it.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2012, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-final-word-on-the-benghazi-embassy-attack/639384/224 "2012-12-31T06:33:22Z")

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I’ve little doubt that the crushing burden of your disdain is a contributing factor.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2012, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-final-word-on-the-benghazi-embassy-attack/639384/225 "2012-12-31T07:00:51Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Don’t believe I’ve ever said any such thing.
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> Perhaps a cite would clear up the confusion?
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> Besides, she didn’t have a clot at the time; the blood clot is only ‘reported’; and its being due to the concussion is only being ‘reported’.
> 
> In other words anything can be reported.
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> Still, she has been out of sight for over a week and no one but her intimates know where she’s been or what her condition is. I would think however that had her illness and concussion been severe enough to keep her at home all this time, I would have thought hospitalization would have been called for long before now.
> 
> Maybe she’s genuinely ill, maybe not. But only a fool would take anything either of the Clintons say or do at face value. As much as I detest those two, I wish her no ill. And should it turn out that she has truly been ill and in the way described, I’ll feel badly for her. But I won’t for a second feel foolish for questioning it.

:rolleyes: Go [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=677257) and stay there forever and ever.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2013, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-final-word-on-the-benghazi-embassy-attack/639384/226 "2013-01-01T18:10:29Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Besides, she didn’t have a clot at the time; the blood clot is only ‘reported’; and its being due to the concussion is only being ‘reported’.
> 
> In other words anything can be reported.
> 
> Still, she has been out of sight for over a week and no one but her intimates know where she’s been or what her condition is. I would think however that had her illness and concussion been severe enough to keep her at home all this time, I would have thought hospitalization would have been called for long before now.
> 
> Maybe she’s genuinely ill, maybe not.

In other news, Hillary reportedly did the moonwalk in the hospital corridor, but skeptics say the event was staged in the Arizona desert.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2013, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-final-word-on-the-benghazi-embassy-attack/639384/227 "2013-01-24T00:12:00Z")

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Well, Hillary acquitted herself pretty well at the inquisition today, despite McCain’s self-serving anti-Obama braying. I wish he’d realize that he has nothing to say that anybody wants to hear.

> [@](#):
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> Mr. McCain asserted that the Obama administration’s aversion to nation-building precluded it from adequately helping Libya organize and train its own forces. Specifically, Mr. McCain said that the administration failed to provide the kind of training, equipment and other assistance that would help the fledgling civilian government in Tripoli confront the growing menace from militias in Benghazi and other parts of Libya.
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> He said there were a number of obvious warning signs before the September attack in Benghazi, including an attack on the British ambassador’s convoy in that city in June.
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> “Well, Senator, I understand your very strong feelings,” Mrs. Clinton responded, adding, “And we just have a disagreement.”

So an “aversion to nation building” is a negative thing for this old fuck, and we should continue to pump millions of dollars worth of weapons and troops into this cesspool.

She also shoved things up Ron Johnson’s ass, which I hope he finds titillating.

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> In a rare moment of confrontation, Mrs. Clinton responded to persistent questions from Senator Ron Johnson, a Wisconsin Republican, by saying that there was too much focus on how the Benghazi attack was characterized in its early hours and not enough on how to prevent a recurrence.
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> “What difference at this point does it make?” she said, raising her voice and noting that there were “four dead Americans.”
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> “It is our job to figure out what happened and to make sure it doesn’t happen again,” she snapped.

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**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2013, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-final-word-on-the-benghazi-embassy-attack/639384/228 "2013-01-24T15:22:48Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Not getting it, here. What level of security would be adequate to neutralize determined enemies with automatic weapons and grenade launchers? Diplomats risk their lives for their country, just as soldiers do. They just don’t have the option of shooting back.

If you mean “for their country” you mean “to advance the goals of the state and the monied interest it represents” you might be right.

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2013, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-final-word-on-the-benghazi-embassy-attack/639384/229 "2013-01-24T15:34:06Z")

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It was funny to hear Eddie Haskell, I mean Rand Paul, tell Hillary that if he was president, he’d have relieved her of her post. Perhaps in theory there is an alternate universe where Rand Paul would be the superior of Hillary, but it is never going to happen in this world. If that wasn’t enough, he called the attack the worst thing to happen since 9/11. Really, Rand? Ever hear of a place called Newtown?

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2013, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-final-word-on-the-benghazi-embassy-attack/639384/230 "2013-01-24T16:31:32Z")

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Well, to be honest, Sandy Hook had not happened yet when Benghazi occurred. Now don’t make me have to defend Paul again. I feel like I need a shower now.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2013, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-final-word-on-the-benghazi-embassy-attack/639384/231 "2013-01-24T16:49:30Z")

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I thought Clinton carried herself well under the ridiculous questioning by the camera-loving GOP senators. They didn’t get what they wanted and made themselves look like idiots in the process. Way to go, GOP!

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2013, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-final-word-on-the-benghazi-embassy-attack/639384/232 "2013-01-24T16:58:26Z")

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I’m looking forward to Last night’s Daily Show.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2013, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-final-word-on-the-benghazi-embassy-attack/639384/233 "2013-01-24T17:12:06Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> It was funny to hear Eddie Haskell, I mean Rand Paul, tell Hillary that if he was president, he’d have relieved her of her post. Perhaps in theory there is an alternate universe where Rand Paul would be the superior of Hillary, but it is never going to happen in this world. If that wasn’t enough, he called the attack the worst thing to happen since 9/11. Really, Rand? Ever hear of a place called Newtown?

She did exactly right by ignoring the little twat. The whole purpose of this little star chamber was to try to set the stage to discredit Clinton if she runs in 2016. Instead, she shoved the whole non-funding issue up their asses without making it sound like whining. McCain intoning that her answers were “unsatisfactory” surprised nobody ever.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2013, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-final-word-on-the-benghazi-embassy-attack/639384/234 "2013-01-24T17:16:10Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> It was funny to hear Eddie Haskell, I mean Rand Paul, tell Hillary that if he was president, he’d have relieved her of her post.

I couldn’t help but think of a story about Winston Churchill, which I’ll probably get wrong, but apparently a very unpleasant woman said to him, “If I were your wife, I would feed you poison,” and Churchill replied, “Madam, if I were your husband, I would take it.”

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-final-word-on-the-benghazi-embassy-attack/639384/235 "2013-01-25T02:13:21Z")

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Benghazi is the Manti Te’o’s girlfriend of Republican politics.

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