# What's the most interesting car you saw today?

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**Created:** [May 21, 2014, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-most-interesting-car-you-saw-today/688889 "2014-05-21T02:35:22Z")\
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> [@swampspruce](#):
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> well **Mama** I guess I’ll take [this](https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/gallery/ferrai-458-italia-challenge-photos-surface_1.jpg) one back then… Oh well. 😃

I’m a bit confused… is there a connection between Fiat and Ferrari that I don’t know about?

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My own contribution for today is I parked next to a 2020 Jeep Gladiator. All black and looks like a fun and even practical vehicle. I’ve been aware of them for a few years but this is the first one I’ve seen “in the wild.”

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> [@Spud](#):
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> I’m a bit confused… is there a connection between Fiat and Ferrari that I don’t know about?

Fiat bought half of Ferrari in 1969. In January, 2016 (I think), Fiat-Chrysler sold 80% of Ferrari to create a stand-alone company.

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**Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-most-interesting-car-you-saw-today/688889/2828 "2019-08-13T00:00:23Z")

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Today I saw a Toyota FJ40. The upper half was red, and the lower half was white.

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On the Santa Cruz wharf today, a really nice [red Corvette](https://photos.app.goo.gl/5FRT3u1jiYySymez7).

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Fiat bought half of Ferrari in 1969. In January, 2016 (I think), Fiat-Chrysler sold 80% of Ferrari to create a stand-alone company.

Ok, connecting corporate ownership ties can be a bit of a stretch. I think it would have made more sense to have used a Maserati.

Chrysler sells the Fiat 500, and back in the misguided late 80’s sold the Chrysler TC by Maserati.

I’m pretty sure no Fiat branded car has ever shared a part or platform with a Ferrari (I’m sure someone will be around soon to remind me of the HK46 8.3mm hex bolt) Fiat and Maserati at least have a bit less of a stretch to connect.

So Mama… I guess I’ll be taking this one back too [Rare Rides: A 1989 Chrysler TC by Maserati, The Lemon Mixup | The Truth About Cars](https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2017/11/rare-rides-a-1989-chrysler-tc-by-maserati-the-lemon-mixup/)

(you can thank me later)

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> [@blondebear](#):
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> On the Santa Cruz wharf today, a really nice [red Corvette](https://photos.app.goo.gl/5FRT3u1jiYySymez7).

Gorgeous!

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> [@Spud](#):
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> Ok, connecting corporate ownership ties can be a bit of a stretch. I think it would have made more sense to have used a Maserati.
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> Chrysler sells the Fiat 500, and back in the misguided late 80’s sold the Chrysler TC by Maserati.
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> I’m pretty sure no Fiat branded car has ever shared a part or platform with a Ferrari (I’m sure someone will be around soon to remind me of the HK46 8.3mm hex bolt) Fiat and Maserati at least have a bit less of a stretch to connect.
> 
> So Mama… I guess I’ll be taking this one back too [Rare Rides: A 1989 Chrysler TC by Maserati, The Lemon Mixup | The Truth About Cars](https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2017/11/rare-rides-a-1989-chrysler-tc-by-maserati-the-lemon-mixup/)
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> (you can thank me later)

You would be incorrect. The Dino was originally not branded as a Ferrari and Fiat got to use the Dino V-6 engine in their version of the Dino, which differed greatly in styling.

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**Post date:** [August 13, 2019, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-most-interesting-car-you-saw-today/688889/2833 "2019-08-13T17:21:40Z")

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Not a car, but a motorcycle: The [Ducati Panigale V4 R](https://www.ducati.com/us/en/bikes/panigale/panigale-v4-r). I think I’m in love. A shame I gave up my motorcycle license due to inner ear issues.

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Tonight I saw a 1957 Chevy four door station wagon. Since the Nomad was only a two door wagon I assume that makes the car I saw a 210? Was there a Bel Air wagon or was that just a sedan? Anyway, the car I saw had a period correct looking white over turquoise two tone paint job, and then the owner kind of ruined it by making it a lowrider and putting big modern wheels with low profile tires on it.

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On the way home I passed an MGB-GT. It didn’t exactly look Olde English White, but it wasn’t Primrose Yellow either. It made me wish I had been driving my roadster.

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**Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-most-interesting-car-you-saw-today/688889/2836 "2019-08-15T02:40:56Z")

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A white early 60’s Cadillac convertible, on a flat bed.

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> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#):
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> You would be incorrect. The Dino was originally not branded as a Ferrari and Fiat got to use the Dino V-6 engine in their version of the Dino, which differed greatly in styling.

I guess I’m going to have to go to my local Chrysler dealer and pick up a Fiat 500 and convince all of my friends that I have a Ferrari. :dubious:

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Tonight I saw what I’m pretty sure was a late 1960s/early 1970s Plymouth Valiant. It could possibly have been a Dart, but the grille looked more Valiant like to me. It was primer gray.

I also saw a Volvo P1800 coupe. I think it was probably the same one I saw a few months back and posted several pages ago.

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**Post date:** [August 15, 2019, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-most-interesting-car-you-saw-today/688889/2839 "2019-08-15T18:54:46Z")

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I got round to posting here eventually…

It wasn’t today but last Friday I finally saw my first Lamborghini Urus - their SUV - driving past Marylebone station. I can’t say it was very interesting-looking, really, although it does have sufficient Lamborghini styling on the top / front of the bonnet and lights that I could tell what it was before it was close enough to see the badge.

> **[Lamborghini Urus](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamborghini_Urus)**
>
> The Lamborghini Urus is a mid-size luxury crossover SUV manufactured by Italian automobile manufacturer Lamborghini. It was unveiled on 4 December 2017 and was put on the market for the 2018 model year. The name comes from the urus, the ancestor of modern domestic cattle, also known as the aurochs. After four years, Lamborghini hit a major milestone, producing 20,000 of these SUVs, making the Urus the company's best-selling model in the shortest time.
> The Lamborghini Urus concept was unveiled ...

Earlier in the week I saw an Alfa Romeo in Hammersmith that looked as though it was from the 1920s. I’m not sure exactly which model but it was fairly similar to this 1929 Super Sport:

[![](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfa_Romeo_6C#/media/File:Alfa_Romeo_Super_Sport_1929.jpg) ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfa_Romeo_6C#/media/File:Alfa_Romeo_Super_Sport_1929.jpg)

It was driving past my office building, and at the same time there was an E-type Jaguar parked in the forecourt, which was nice.

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I’m going to need some help on this one.

I was going around a roundabout and saw a car to my right waiting to enter. It had a very smooth shape that reminded me of a Porsche 928 but it wasn’t the same. It also had pop up headlights but they were oval (ish). We ended up side by side and I realized it was a Ferrari by the badge on the very small grill. When I saw the back it was clearly spelled out FERRARI but no other numbers.

Big vents between the front tires and driver doors… smooth so not your typical super car. Seems like a “daily driver Ferrari” if there is such a thing. My Google foo is weak as I looked at a ton of pictures with no luck.

Any help in figuring it out would be appreciated.

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> [@Spud](#):
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> It had a very smooth shape that reminded me of a Porsche 928 but it wasn’t the same. It also had pop up headlights but they were oval (ish).
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> Big vents between the front tires and driver doors… smooth so not your typical super car.

Your description of the shape (and pop-up headlights) makes it sound like a Daytona - as in the replica / fake from the first couple of series of Miami Vice - but those are somewhat more angular and don’t have the vents you describe:

> **[Ferrari Daytona](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari_Daytona)**
>
> The Ferrari Daytona is a two-seat grand tourer produced by Ferrari from 1968 to 1973. It was introduced at the Paris Auto Salon in 1968 to replace the 275 GTB/4, and featured the 275's Colombo V12 bored-out to 4,390 cc (4.4 L; 267.9 cu in). It was offered in berlinetta and spyder forms. The car came in two variants: the 365 GTB/4 coupe, and the 365 GTS/4 convertible.
> The Daytona was succeeded by the mid-engined 365 GT4 Berlinetta Boxer in 1973.
>  
> The unofficial Daytona name is reported to have b...

The pop-up headlights mean it can’t be much later than the 1980s or early 90s, though, as Ferrari didn’t use them much later than that.

The vents and the rounded shape also sound like a 250 GTO or something similar to that, but those are definitely not an “everyday Ferrari” as they go for $10,000,000 or more! I think I did once see one on the street in central London (on Whitehall) but it would be pretty unusual. Also these don’t have pop-up headlamps.

> **[Ferrari 250 GTO](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari_250_GTO)**
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> The Ferrari 250 GTO is a grand tourer produced by Ferrari from 1962 to 1964 for homologation into the FIA's Group 3 Grand Touring Car category. It was powered by Ferrari's Tipo 168/62 Colombo V12 engine. The "250" in its name denotes the displacement in cubic centimeters of each of its cylinders; "GTO" stands for Gran Turismo Omologato, Italian for "Grand Touring Homologated".
> Just 36 of the 250 GTOs were manufactured between 1962 and 1964. This includes 33 cars with 1962–63 bodywork (Series I) ...

Some of the 550 models from the late '90s / early 2000s also have that style of vent and are quite rounded with a similar overall shape to a Porsche 928, but again, no pop-up headlights:

> **[Ferrari 550](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari_550)**
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> The Ferrari 550 Maranello (tipo F133) is a front-engine V12 2-seat grand tourer built by Ferrari from 1996 to 2002. The 550 Maranello marked Ferrari's return to a front-engine, rear-wheel drive layout for its 2-seater 12-cylinder model, 23 years after the 365 GTB/4 Daytona had been replaced by the mid-engined Berlinetta Boxer.
> In 2000, Ferrari introduced the 550 Barchetta Pininfarina, a limited production roadster version of the 550, limited to just 448 examples. The 550 was replaced by the upgr...

I wonder if it could have been a custom job / body kit with styling to suggest the 250 GTO but on a different Ferrari chassis? Apparently that’s something that people do.

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In the last week I’ve seen a eggshell white bathtub Porsche convertible and a later model black Dodge Viper.

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I saw a gold Mustang GT with Dubai license plates, and by “gold” I mean the gold you see on a Hot Wheels, [like this.](https://hotwheels.fandom.com/wiki/Gold_Rides_Series?file=Chrysler300chemi.jpg)

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> [@Richard\_W](#):
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> I wonder if it could have been a custom job / body kit with styling to suggest the 250 GTO but on a different Ferrari chassis? Apparently that’s something that people do.

I’m starting to lean this direction. From the side it looks almost exactly like an 812 SuperFast. The back end had FERRARI spelled out in chrome letters where all of the pictures I see have just the badge, and I’m positive about the headlights because that is the first thing that first made me think it could be a 928… but they didn’t look like quite the right shape (oval instead of round).

We do have lots of people around here with lots of extra money so it could have been someone who wanted a unique SuperFast. Saw it on my drive home last night so maybe I’ll spot it again.

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