# What's the Official Mod ruling on "Drumpf"?

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**Created:** [March 9, 2016, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392 "2016-03-09T10:57:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/21 "2016-03-09T16:51:12Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> If you add formatting for emphasis, please indicate you’ve done so, either in square brackets within the quote or immediately after the quote. Quote tags are for actual quotes only - don’t use them to paraphrase another’s argument or make a joke.  
> \*

Wait.

Selective quoting to “Make a joke” is off limits?

So, if some guy goes on some long discourse about how bad prisons are and how bad his own personal prison experience I’m supposed to quote the whole thing before delivering the punch line?

Seems to me

“…And let me tell you my prison experience sucked…”

after which I post

“serves you right for not using YELP”

makes a bit more sense.

I see that a lot around here. And given that hopefully funny jokes and a bit of well aimed snark is a major feature around here, that seems to be almost contraindicated.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/22 "2016-03-09T16:52:14Z")

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As always, context is important. I didn’t warn the first two times I saw the ‘drumpf’ thing pop up because it seemed more inadvertent than anything else.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/23 "2016-03-09T17:19:42Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Referring to Trump as Drumpf is childish. It’s like saying “The Democrat Party”. It’s childish disrespect, and only a hypocrite would tolerate one but not the other.

Okay, what’s wrong with saying The Democrat Party? I know that their correct name is the Democratic Party. It is certainly incorrect to drop the -ic. But what makes it childish and disrespectful?

Note - I’m not American, I don’t follow American politics. But I’m pretty Liberal, and I’d probably vote Democrat if I lived there.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/24 "2016-03-09T17:21:30Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> Okay, what’s wrong with saying The Democrat Party? I know that their correct name is the Democratic Party. It is certainly incorrect to drop the -ic. But what makes it childish and disrespectful?
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> Note - I’m not American, I don’t follow American politics. But I’m pretty Liberal, and I’d probably vote Democrat if I lived there.

We have had entire threads on just this topic.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/25 "2016-03-09T17:23:05Z")

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> [@Peter\_Morris](#):
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> Okay, what’s wrong with saying The Democrat Party? I know that their correct name is the Democratic Party. It is certainly incorrect to drop the -ic. But what makes it childish and disrespectful?
> 
> Note - I’m not American, I don’t follow American politics. But I’m pretty Liberal, and I’d probably vote Democrat if I lived there.

It really comes down to some political commentators using it that way as a means of trivializing the Demcratic Party by mispronouncing the name. Then some members got irritated by it so it got used more and a vicious circle was thereby formed.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/26 "2016-03-09T17:34:40Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> It really comes down to some political commentators using it that way as a means of trivializing the **Demcratic** Party by mispronouncing the name.

Hmmm…😃

I always thought that since “democratic” describes a form of government strongly approved of by most people, lopping off the “ic” in referring to the “Democrat” party is a childish way of attempting to diminish the opposition. It has gotten to be a semi-disease among hard-right Republicans, who would probably be miffed if Democrats and media commentators habitually referred to them as “Repubs”.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/27 "2016-03-09T17:57:25Z")

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Just to prove it’s [not just us…](http://www.buzzfeed.com/craigsilverman/best-correction-of-2016-so-far#.trnexQ727)

> [@](#):
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> Correction: at 9:58a.m. on 03/09/2016: Due to an oversight involving a haphazardly-installed Chrome extension during the editing process, the name Donald Trump was erroneously replaced with the phrase “Someone With Tiny Hands” when this story was originally published.

I swear to God by the time November rolls around we’re all going to be ready for Arkham.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/28 "2016-03-09T18:01:48Z")

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A gem from the same article;

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> This error evokes of one of the world’s greatest find-and-replace flubs. In 2006, a Reuters story replaced “queen bee” with “Queen Elizabeth,” resulting in this sentence: “Queen Elizabeth has 10 times the lifespan of workers and lays up to 2,000 eggs a day.”

One wonders if sending that factoid Trump’s way would lead him to start boasting that he can lay twice as many eggs as that.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/29 "2016-03-09T18:03:15Z")

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/30 "2016-03-09T18:04:19Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> I swear to God by the time November rolls around we’re all going to be ready for Arkham.

Not me. I plan to break out.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/31 "2016-03-09T18:05:49Z")

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> [@bobot](#):
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> Referring to Trump as Drumpf is childish. It’s like saying “The Democrat Party”. .

Which I do, and I am a lifelong Democrat. Not a Democratic.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/32 "2016-03-09T18:07:35Z")

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People intentionally leaving out the “h” in Whig are the worst.

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/33 "2016-03-09T18:11:36Z")

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And here I was thinking people were getting bent because it was the “Demoncrat” party.

Glad I didn’t accidentally write democrat party at some point and get dinged for it.

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**Author:** ![Shalmanese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shalmanese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shalmanese)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/34 "2016-03-09T18:14:14Z")

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I had no idea the extension would change the words submitted and not just the text I see and, crucially, with the extension on, I have no way of even finding out that was the case.

I haven’t been hit by this because I haven’t commented in any of those threads but if I did, it would be out of ignorance, not malice. I don’t know what the best way to solve this problem is but it’s not by punishing anyone.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/35 "2016-03-09T18:23:48Z")

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The simplest solution is not to install childish extensions.

Just a thought.

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**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/36 "2016-03-09T18:23:52Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> Other than small changes for brevity (‘snip’ and such) text inside quote boxes may not be altered. That’s a hard rule.

Over the years, I’ve started a couple of threads asking about changes to text in quote boxes. One was about changes made by [SpellCheck](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=597112), and the other about changes made by [board software](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=776759).

For some reason, no moderators saw fit to respond to either question. Any thoughts?

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/37 "2016-03-09T18:39:18Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> Just to prove it’s [not just us…](http://www.buzzfeed.com/craigsilverman/best-correction-of-2016-so-far#.trnexQ727)
> 
> I swear to God by the time November rolls around we’re all going to be ready for Arkham.

I’m particularly fond of the “Tyson Homosexual” find-and-replace from some right-wing site a few years back.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/38 "2016-03-09T18:56:05Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> The simplest solution is not to install childish extensions.
> 
> Just a thought.

Corinthians 13:11?

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/39 "2016-03-09T19:15:05Z")

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> [@Acsenray](#):
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> It’s from John Oliver’s show —
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> In short, Oliver says that part of Trump's appeal lies in his name, "Trump," so a tool to combat that appeal is to use his family's original name, which really was "Drumpf," and which won't confer that same advantage.

John Oliver? The wanna-be comedian? Are his comedy routines considered political discourse now? It’s not like a professional comedian can be held libel for anything they write, even if it’s a bald-faced lie.

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**Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/40 "2016-03-09T21:10:45Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> John Oliver? The wanna-be comedian? Are his comedy routines considered political discourse now? It’s not like a professional comedian can be held libel for anything they write, even if it’s a bald-faced lie.

So many things wrong with this.

Let’s see:

1. John Oliver is a wanna-be comedian in the same way that Peyton Manning is a wanna-be football player. Both of them ARE the things they wanna be.
2. Comedy routines have been political discourse for thousands of years; Lysistrata wasn’t the first.
3. “Held libel”? Gah.
4. Of course he can be sued for libel, of course he can be held liable, for his words, just like anyone else.  
4b) There are no bald-faced lies he’s uttered; he does great research.
5. WTF does any of this have to do with this thread? If you want to sneer and John Oliver, start a thread for it!

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