# What's the Official Mod ruling on "Drumpf"? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [March 9, 2016, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392 "2016-03-09T10:57:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/41 "2016-03-09T21:25:21Z")
Tweet. Out of order. No more Oliver hijack. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/42 "2016-03-09T21:49:26Z")
Wait a minute? Isn’t “not following mod directions” warnable? Shouldn’t the posters in the OP be warned for that rather than reminded to not Drumpf the thread? ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/43 "2016-03-09T22:55:20Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > I’ve tried to be easy going so far but enough is enough. We certainly hope to have an elevated level of discussion and debate in Great Debates and Elections. Such childishness - not unlike ‘Democrat Party’, ‘Repugnican’ and various similar derogatory names for people of other political points of view - don’t help us achieve that goal. You’ve said you would not moderate the childishness of those other examples you gave, however. It doesn’t seem to me that the childishness has any bearing on the problem. It is just that the extension alters quote boxes. Could we get a confirmation that this is correct? That people are free to still say “Drumpf” all they want? It seems to me that whether the addon is childish is a different topic–and one that has been discussed in other threads. And it opens up a whole other can of worms, encouraging childish responses. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/44 "2016-03-09T23:44:53Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > The simplest solution is not to install childish extensions. > > Just a thought. I didn’t think it was childish; I still don’t. I didn’t realize it changed quotes and posts however. I disabled it when that became apparent. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2016, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/45 "2016-03-09T23:45:11Z")
What’s to clarify? It’s been clearly stated that the rule being enforced is the one about not altering quotes in quote boxes. ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2016, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/46 "2016-03-10T00:13:43Z")
NM. ---
**Author:** ![Shalmanese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shalmanese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shalmanese)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2016, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/47 "2016-03-10T01:02:52Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > The simplest solution is not to install childish extensions. > > Just a thought. The Drumpf plugin has given me the most amusement to effort ratio of anything I’ve done this week. I’m not going to uninstall it just on the off chance it might interact with some edge case on a message board. As far as I’m aware, the Cloud -\> Butt plugin doesn’t change the quoted text in submissions, right? Or at least, no posts that I’ve seen on this board have ever been hit by that. I naively assumed the Trump -\> Drumpf plugin worked the same way. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2016, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/48 "2016-03-10T01:30:21Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > What’s to clarify? It’s been clearly stated that the rule being enforced is the one about not altering quotes in quote boxes. Whether or not all the posts about how childish the extension is are relevant to the calculation. **JC** has mentioned it more often than he’s mentioned the quote thing. I actually have an addon that I developed that would allow people to have their Drumpf fun but would not alter quote boxes. I’m hoping to ask **JC** to mention using an alternative extension in his sticky. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2016, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/49 "2016-03-10T01:50:38Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > It doesn’t seem to me that the childishness has any bearing on the problem. It is just that the extension alters quote boxes. Could we get a confirmation that this is correct? That people are free to still say “Drumpf” all they want? Is there anything particularly offensive or denigrating about the name “Drumpf”? Does anyone here happen to know if this word actually means anything in the original German, and if so, what? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2016, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/50 "2016-03-10T02:21:13Z")
That add-on must make posts about Bridge games sound very silly. Or Biblical talk about Revelations. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2016, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/51 "2016-03-10T02:32:20Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > The simplest solution is not to install childish extensions. > > Just a thought. You’re the guy who’s trying to raise the level of discourse, right? ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2016, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/52 "2016-03-10T03:14:43Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > Is there anything particularly offensive or denigrating about the name “Drumpf”? > > Does anyone here happen to know if this word actually means anything in the original German, and if so, what? It just sounds like the kind of name a presidential candidate would much less rather have than Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2016, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/53 "2016-03-10T03:45:04Z")
> [@Shalmanese](#): > > I don’t know what the best way to solve this problem is but it’s not by punishing anyone. Now that you know that you have an extension which breaks one of the rules of the SDMB, and you don’t disable it, why shouldn’t you be punished for a breach of the rules? ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2016, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/54 "2016-03-10T04:40:28Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Now that you know that you have an extension which breaks one of the rules of the SDMB, and you don’t disable it, why shouldn’t you be punished for a breach of the rules? Just because a rule exists doesn’t mean it’s a good rule. And the solution of “you can’t use an extension because it violates a silly rule on this one website that no other website\* has” is not a very good one. \*Well, none that I’ve seen in my 20 years online. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2016, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/55 "2016-03-10T04:43:41Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > It just sounds like the kind of name a presidential candidate would much less rather have than Trump. Yeah. It’s not that Drumpf is particularly offensive, it’s that a ‘trump’ (or trumping sombody) is a good thing, and it’s arguably giving the Donald a PR boost. ---
**Author:** ![rowrrbazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rowrrbazzle/32/414_2.png) [@rowrrbazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rowrrbazzle)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2016, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/56 "2016-03-10T05:17:54Z")
I’m still trying to figure out how someone would accidentally do a global replace of “the queen bee” with “Queen Elizabeth”. Screwing up a global replace, I understand. I’ve done that a few times. But those specific phrases? ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2016, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/57 "2016-03-10T08:57:07Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Just because a rule exists doesn’t mean it’s a good rule. And the solution of “you can’t use an extension because it violates a silly rule on this one website that no other website\* has” is not a very good one. Are you kidding me? You seriously don’t think the rule against changing another poster’s words, while using a Quote box thus making it look like your false quote is actually what the other poster originally wrote, is a good rule??? I don’t use other messageboards much, but if this is the only messageboard on the internet where you’re not allowed to falsify a quote in attribution to another poster, then this is the only messageboard on the internet with even a shred of integrity. (Of course, there are plenty of online communities with rules against altering or falsifying cites and quotes- your exaggeration is ridiculous.) ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2016, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/58 "2016-03-10T14:10:38Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > Does anyone here happen to know if this word actually means anything in the original German, and if so, what? There’s no such word in my German dictionary. My WAG: perhaps it’s just a variant spelling of _Trumpf_ which–rather disappointingly–means “trump.” ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2016, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/59 "2016-03-10T16:42:21Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Just because a rule exists doesn’t mean it’s a good rule. And the solution of “you can’t use an extension because it violates a silly rule on this one website that no other website\* has” is not a very good one. > > \*Well, none that I’ve seen in my 20 years online. You’re free to use the extension, but if the extension changes text within a quote box, you’ll have to manually change it back. Do you disagree with the rule against changing text within a quote box? That way mischief lies. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2016, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/60 "2016-03-10T17:22:37Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > Is there anything particularly offensive or denigrating about the name “Drumpf”? > > Does anyone here happen to know if this word actually means anything in the original German, and if so, what? Google translate says “Drumpf” means “Trump card”. Google capitalized the “T”. Which according to Google “Drumpf” is a variation of “Trumpf”. When you try to translate “Drumpf” itself it says “Drumpf”. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392.md?page=4)