# What's the Official Mod ruling on "Drumpf"? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [March 9, 2016, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392 "2016-03-09T10:57:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/161 "2016-03-14T15:17:05Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > No but if you make one that replaces “regards shodan” with a blank, I’d appreciate it!😃 I’m terrible at writing apps. On the other hand I have lots of free time. Give me your password and uhhh lets say 5 dollars a day and I can edit you SDMB experience for the better 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2016, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/162 "2016-03-14T21:40:59Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > No but if you make one that replaces “regards shodan” with a blank, I’d appreciate it!😃 **BigT** ’s could probably be modified very quickly. Just find the line that says “replace _Trump_ with\* Drumpf\*” and swap in “regards Shodan” and " ". ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/163 "2016-03-16T00:49:32Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > It really comes down to some political commentators using it that way as a means of trivializing the Demcratic Party by mispronouncing the name. Then some members got irritated by it so it got used more and a vicious circle was thereby formed. Yeah, I really don’t get what the big deal is. It’s not as if it’s being changed to something insulting. I’m sure I’ve used it before, but in each any every case in was inadvertent or just plain lazy. I’m not a Dem, but I can’t imagine gaining anything, even a scintilla of a chuckle, from “The Democrat Party”. ::shrug:: ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/164 "2016-03-16T01:44:59Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Yeah, I really don’t get what the big deal is. It’s not as if it’s being changed to something insulting. I’m sure I’ve used it before, but in each any every case in was inadvertent or just plain lazy. I’m not a Dem, but I can’t imagine gaining anything, even a scintilla of a chuckle, from “The Democrat Party”. ::shrug:: It’s just because it’s meant as a (very minor) slur, at least some of the time – many folks who don’t like the Democrats use it specifically because they know it annoys Democratic supporters. Not a huge deal, but I think it’s childish and obnoxious. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/165 "2016-03-16T03:58:13Z")
> [@magellan01](#): > > Yeah, I really don’t get what the big deal is. It’s not as if it’s being changed to something insulting. I’m sure I’ve used it before, but in each any every case in was inadvertent or just plain lazy. I’m not a Dem, but I can’t imagine gaining anything, even a scintilla of a chuckle, from “The Democrat Party”. ::shrug:: There’s very few times I can say I agree with you 100%, but I agree with you 100%. The outrage over “Democrat Party” is just bizarre to me. How is it even possible to give a fuck about this? ---
**Author:** ![erysichthon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d07c76/32.png) [@erysichthon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erysichthon)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 7:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/166 "2016-03-16T07:29:19Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > It’s just because it’s meant as a (very minor) slur, at least some of the time – many folks who don’t like the Democrats use it specifically because they know it annoys Democratic supporters. Not a huge deal, but I think it’s childish and obnoxious. It’s the equivalent of intentionally (and repeatedly) mispronouncing or misspelling the name of someone you don’t like, and pretending that you _didn’t_ do it intentionally. “Hi, Hay-lee.” “My name’s Hallie. Rhymes with Allie, remember? We talked about this last week.” “Oh yeah, sorry.” [several days later] “Hi there, Hay-lee.” “It’s _Hallie_, goddammit!” [suppressing a giggle] “Oh, sorry! Silly me! I don’t know why I keep forgetting that!” It’s a petty, childish insult designed to get under a person’s skin. Anytime I hear someone say, “I don’t understand what the big deal is about this ‘Democrat Party’ thing,” I’m reasonably certain I’m talking to a Republican who secretly thinks it’s high-_larious_. ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/167 "2016-03-16T08:00:13Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > It’s just because it’s meant as a (very minor) slur, at least some of the time – many folks who don’t like the Democrats use it specifically because they know it annoys Democratic supporters. Not a huge deal, but I think it’s childish and obnoxious. A bit like Shodans sign off really. ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 8:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/168 "2016-03-16T08:48:28Z")
> [@erysichthon](#): > > It’s the equivalent of intentionally (and repeatedly) mispronouncing or misspelling the name of someone you don’t like, and pretending that you _didn’t_ do it intentionally. > > “Hi, Hay-lee.” > “My name’s Hallie. Rhymes with Allie, remember? We talked about this last week.” > “Oh yeah, sorry.” > [several days later] > “Hi there, Hay-lee.” > “It’s _Hallie_, goddammit!” > [suppressing a giggle] “Oh, sorry! Silly me! I don’t know why I keep forgetting that!” > > It’s a petty, childish insult designed to get under a person’s skin. > > Anytime I hear someone say, “I don’t understand what the big deal is about this ‘Democrat Party’ thing,” I’m reasonably certain I’m talking to a Republican who secretly thinks it’s high-_larious_. Nah…it doesn’t bother me and I am for sure a Democrat. In your “Hallie” example above, I wouldn’t waste my time getting irritated. I would just find the mispronouncer to be a bit dim. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/169 "2016-03-16T10:50:12Z")
“Democrat Party” does not bother me, because there really is a Democrat Party in Thailand. The country’s oldest political party, “Democrat” is it’s official rendering in English. I’m so used to “Democrat” that “Democratic Party” sounds a bit off to me now. ---
**Author:** ![erysichthon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d07c76/32.png) [@erysichthon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erysichthon)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/170 "2016-03-16T11:40:07Z")
> [@CairoCarol](#): > > Nah…it doesn’t bother me and I am for sure a Democrat. > > In your “Hallie” example above, I wouldn’t waste my time getting irritated. I would just find the mispronouncer to be a bit dim. I wasn’t referring to people who don’t feel personally insulted by the phrase themselves. I’m a Democrat myself, and my reaction to it is just an eye-roll. I’m talking about people who claim that they _simply can’t understand_ how anyone could _possibly_ feel insulted by the phrase “Democrat Party.” If it’s clearly intended as an insult, why begrudge people feeling genuinely irritated by it? That always struck me as disingenuous. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/171 "2016-03-16T12:38:03Z")
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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/172 "2016-03-16T14:06:40Z")
> [@erysichthon](#): > > I’m talking about people who claim that they _simply can’t understand_ how anyone could _possibly_ feel insulted by the phrase “Democrat Party.” If it’s clearly intended as an insult, why begrudge people feeling genuinely irritated by it? That always struck me as disingenuous. Because of all the times they get irritated when it is not clearly meant to insult. > [@bucketybuck](#): > > A bit like Shodans sign off really. That’s true. There is no way to stop someone who insists on being offended. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/173 "2016-03-16T14:30:57Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Because of all the times they get irritated when it is not clearly meant to insult. Very possibly, but sometimes it probably is. Why not just call it the Democratic party, as party members, officials, and supporters refer to it? ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/174 "2016-03-16T14:51:56Z")
> [@bucketybuck](#): > > A bit like Shodans sign off really. I don’t understand your concern over a simple, and common, closing to a letter or post. Does it violate some top secret internet protocol? - \*regards plural noun us /rɪˈɡɑrdz/ › ​greetings and ​expressions of ​affection: Please give my regards to ​your ​sister.\* > **[regards](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/regards)** > > greetings and expressions of affection: Or are people just trying to control what others are permitted to say on the internet? regards **doorhinge** ---
**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/175 "2016-03-16T15:08:11Z")
> [@erysichthon](#): > > I’m talking about people who claim that they _simply can’t understand_ how anyone could _possibly_ feel insulted by the phrase “Democrat Party.” If it’s clearly intended as an insult, why begrudge people feeling genuinely irritated by it? That always struck me as disingenuous. I don’t “begrudge” anyone their feelings of being insulted. Still, rising above the fray rarely has negative consequences, and I might reserve my highest levels approval for those who can’t be bothered to get their panties in a twist because someone thinks that leaving off “ic” is supposed to be annoying. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/176 "2016-03-16T15:08:19Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Very possibly, but sometimes it probably is. Why not just call it the Democratic party, as party members, officials, and supporters refer to it? Because sometimes people make typos or mistakes. Or it is not that big a deal to refer to a party made up of Democrats as the Democrat party. Is anyone who refers to the ‘Republican party’ insulting the GOP? The GOP is composed of Republicans, so they must be. IYSWIM. As I said, it is mostly people who want to take offense, who have seized on something silly and want to establish it as offensive by sheer repetition. It _is_ like my signoff. ‘What you **really** mean is Fuck You! You’re insulting me! It’s trolling if you do something that I don’t like once I have told you not to!’ Etc. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/177 "2016-03-16T15:08:32Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Or are people just trying to control what others are permitted to say on the internet? Yes, that’s precisely it. Well done. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/178 "2016-03-16T15:12:14Z")
> [@CairoCarol](#): > > I don’t “begrudge” anyone their feelings of being insulted. Still, rising above the fray rarely has negative consequences, and I might reserve my highest levels approval for those who can’t be bothered to get their panties in a twist because someone thinks that leaving off “ic” is supposed to be annoying. For me, I’m not annoyed when people deliberately leave off the “ic.” But I note it. It goes down in their impermanent (because I’m forgetful) record. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/179 "2016-03-16T15:22:49Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Because sometimes people make typos or mistakes. Or it is not that big a deal to refer to a party made up of Democrats as the Democrat party. > > Is anyone who refers to the ‘Republican party’ insulting the GOP? The GOP is composed of Republicans, so they must be. IYSWIM. > > As I said, it is mostly people who want to take offense, who have seized on something silly and want to establish it as offensive by sheer repetition. > > It _is_ like my signoff. ‘What you **really** mean is Fuck You! You’re insulting me! It’s trolling if you do something that I don’t like once I have told you not to!’ Etc. > > Regards, > Shodan Sure. And some people throw around childish insults, even when asked to stop – and sometimes (not always), that’s why folks use “Democrat party”. Do you think this never happens? Would you reject a kind request to call it the Democratic party? A tiny deal. Not really important at all. But also a tiny request – just call that organization what members call it. No big deal. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392/180 "2016-03-16T16:08:06Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > {…} Is anyone who refers to the ‘Republican party’ insulting the GOP? {…} 😕 No, because “ **G** rand **O** ld **P** arty” isn’t the name of the party, they are the “Republican Party”. Blame Thomas Jefferson for naming his party the _Democratic-Republican Party_ and not the _Republican-Democrat(s) Party_. If one wants their opinions about American politics to be given any weight, knowing the actual names of the players would be a good place to start. CMC fnord! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-official-mod-ruling-on-drumpf/748392.md?page=10)