# What's the smallest, cheapest house building codes will allow? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [July 5, 2010, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-smallest-cheapest-house-building-codes-will-allow/545581 "2010-07-05T03:31:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2010, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-smallest-cheapest-house-building-codes-will-allow/545581/1 "2010-07-05T03:31:04Z")
Say I’ve bought an empty lot where a house was torn down. And let’s say I decide I don’t need a full-size house; a one-room cabin the size of a large garage with a toilet stall in one corner will do me fine. YMMV, but generally what’s the smallest dwelling most city codes would allow you to build and occupy? (Provided you have electricity, water, sewer, etc. hooked up) ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2010, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-smallest-cheapest-house-building-codes-will-allow/545581/2 "2010-07-05T03:42:04Z")
300 sq feet small enough? [http://lpchoirboy.com/080131/say%20what.htm](http://lpchoirboy.com/080131/say%20what.htm) > [@](#): > > This house, located near the intersection of Dufferin Street and Rogers Road is believed to be Toronto ’s smallest house. Occupying what used to be a driveway, it’s a one bedroom, one bathroom home that sits on a parcel of land 7.25 feet (2.2 metres) wide and 113.67 feet (34.6 metres) long and has an interior area of just under 300 square feet (under 28 square metres). ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2010, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-smallest-cheapest-house-building-codes-will-allow/545581/3 "2010-07-05T03:45:05Z")
There’s no standard answer to this. Building codes vary widely from location to location. ---
**Author:** ![Scarlett67](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scarlett67/32/7387_2.png) [@Scarlett67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scarlett67)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2010, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-smallest-cheapest-house-building-codes-will-allow/545581/4 "2010-07-05T03:46:24Z")
A [Tumbleweed Tiny House](http://www.tumbleweedhouses.com/) would seem to fit your bill. The smallest one is 65 square feet. ---
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> **[Tiny-house movement](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_house_movement)** > > The tiny-house movement is an architectural and social movement that advocates for downsizing living spaces, simplifying, and essentially "living with less." According to the 2018 International Residential Code, Appendix Q Tiny Houses, a tiny house is a "dwelling unit with a maximum of 37 square metres (400 sq ft) of floor area, excluding lofts." The term "tiny house" is sometimes used interchangeably with "micro-house". While tiny housing primarily represents cheap, simple living, the m This d... [Small House Society](http://www.resourcesforlife.com/small-house-society) ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2010, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-smallest-cheapest-house-building-codes-will-allow/545581/6 "2010-07-05T03:49:05Z")
Many jurisdictions allow dwellings under 200 sq. ft. to be built without a permit, though in California it is 10’x12’ with no plumbing or electricity. If you are interested in buildiing a small house, an excellent resource is [www.countryplans.com](http://www.countryplans.com), which specialiazes in plans for small, owner built houses. They have an active forum of owner builders who share ideas and experiences. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2010, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-smallest-cheapest-house-building-codes-will-allow/545581/7 "2010-07-05T03:51:33Z")
I don’t think there is a code size restriction. The city simply wants it built well. Now, some home owner associations have a minimum size. My neighborhood requires at least 1400 sq feet with a carport or garage. The requirements are explained in the bill of assurance. So, be sure to buy in a neighborhood that doesn’t have an active home owner association. Have the Realtor check the bill of assurance for any restrictions. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2010, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-smallest-cheapest-house-building-codes-will-allow/545581/8 "2010-07-05T03:56:23Z")
cite [http://www.propertybypam.com/bill\_of\_assurance.htm](http://www.propertybypam.com/bill_of_assurance.htm) > [@](#): > > If you are purchasing a home - especially a new home - you may notice something called a “bill of assurance”. In the very simplest terms this is a list of rules and regulations that were put together when the subdivision or group of lots was developed to protect owners. > > For example, a developer gives a bill of assurance to purchasers of lots to let them know that the the development has standards for high quality housing, **such as minimum home sizes** , architectural consistency, and the quality of exterior materials including garages, fences, and auxiliary buildings. ---
**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2010, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-smallest-cheapest-house-building-codes-will-allow/545581/9 "2010-07-05T04:16:43Z")
In Ontario, you don’t need a permit if you’re building under 10 square metres, and the building has no plumbing or sewerage. However… some municipaities may forbid larger structures. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2010, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-smallest-cheapest-house-building-codes-will-allow/545581/10 "2010-07-05T04:48:06Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > Say I’ve bought an empty lot where a house was torn down. And let’s say I decide I don’t need a full-size house; a one-room cabin the size of a large garage with a toilet stall in one corner will do me fine. YMMV, but generally what’s the smallest dwelling most city codes would allow you to build and occupy? (Provided you have electricity, water, sewer, etc. hooked up) For Minneapolis see here [Minneapolis, Minnesota Building Codes](http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/mdr/permits/) and here [Zoning](http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/zoning/) In looking at your residential zoning code your main issue is going to be the minimum 5,000 sq ft lot requirement for a single family residence. It does not speak to minimum house size, only minimum lot sizes. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2010, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-smallest-cheapest-house-building-codes-will-allow/545581/11 "2010-07-05T04:48:11Z")
This [video](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lomy7xAVDKE) shows some of the problems of living in too small a house. ---
**Author:** ![crypto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b3f665/32.png) [@crypto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crypto)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2010, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-smallest-cheapest-house-building-codes-will-allow/545581/12 "2010-07-05T04:58:45Z")
How big was the Unibomber’s shed? Basically a shed from Home Depot (Home Depot makes much nicer sheds). ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2010, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-smallest-cheapest-house-building-codes-will-allow/545581/13 "2010-07-05T05:37:43Z")
:eek: no plumbing?? For a residential house? I can’t see that being allowed. They don’t want people using the back yard as a toilet. That’s a health hazard for the entire neighborhood. > [@Sunspace](#): > > In Ontario, you don’t need a permit if you’re building under 10 square metres, and the building has no plumbing or sewerage. However… some municipaities may forbid larger structures. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2010, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-smallest-cheapest-house-building-codes-will-allow/545581/14 "2010-07-05T05:51:22Z")
Allow me to also point out that, _at the discretion of the Zoning Board_, someone owning a pre-existing lot too small to fit a house meeting minimum lot size requirements is entitled to a variance to make use of his/her lot. This is probably a place where consulting a lawyer specializing in land use would be advisable. I’m fairly sure that the right to seek (and be granted given reasonable grounds) a variance is part and parcel of the case law that established zoning laws as constitutional in the first place, so this would be relevant anywhere in the U.S. ---
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> [@aceplace57](#): > > :eek: no plumbing?? For a residential house? > > I can’t see that being allowed. They don’t want people using the back yard as a toilet. That’s a health hazard for the entire neighborhood. I think most tiny houses us RV style plumbing connecting to a sewer hose or a tank. Composting toilets are also an option, as are connecting to a septic system. In some cases- such as when a tiny house is built into a backyard, I imagine they simply use the house toilet for defecating. Running water is not that big of a deal if you have access to a tap somewhere and don’t mind doing a bit of hauling. In more remote areas you can have water tanks or rainwater tanks. ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2010, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-smallest-cheapest-house-building-codes-will-allow/545581/16 "2010-07-05T13:53:37Z")
> [@astro](#): > > In looking at your residential zoning code your main issue is going to be the minimum 5,000 sq ft lot requirement for a single family residence. It does not speak to minimum house size, only minimum lot sizes. Gaagh! Legally required urban sprawl. My house, in a fairly posh neighborhood whose houses and lots are generous, is on a 5000 square foot lot. But the house I grew up in, a pretty standard Philadelphia row house, was on a lot that couldn’t have been larger than 2500 square foot. At McGill a member of the architechture dept built on campus something he called a “grow home” that was 14’ wide and maybe 20’ long. It had a living room, bedroom, and kitchen on the first floor, a bathroom on the second. The rest of the second floor was unfinished, but the idea was that it could be. So the total floor area was under 600 square foot. It turned out the Montreal building code did not allow a house 14’ wide. ---
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Saw a NYC apartment that was very small, they had no room for any kitchen stuff other than a microwave and a small sink. I think it was around 200 square feet. They had a tiny bathroom and shower. ---
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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > Saw a NYC apartment that was very small, they had no room for any kitchen stuff other than a microwave and a small sink. I think it was around 200 square feet. They had a tiny bathroom and shower. I’ve been in a NYC apartment that instead of having a bathroom had a small water closet (ie a toilet in a closetsized room) and a bathtub _in the kitchen_! :eek: The tub came with a cover you could set stuff on like a shelf, but the tenant prefered to put a curtains in front of it to hide the whole thing from view (though this made the kitchen seem even smaller and blocked it’s window). It wasn’t a studio either. Three rooms counting the kitchen, all in a row. The 1st room (which had the entrance) was set up as a living room, the 2nd as a bedroom (this was also where the WC was), and the 3rd was the kitchen. ---
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I’d suggest looking into modern tree houses. Some of them are incredible. They are tiny houses with small sq footage. They aren’t much harder to build. They are built from a free standing deck that isn’t attached to the tree. On top of the deck goes the walls, windows and roof. They usually are just a few feet off the ground. Some are way high. Depends on what you like and the size of the tree. 😉 these are real, year around homes. > **[DIY Tree House Plans & Ideas](https://dornob.com/custom-tree-house-plans-diy-ideas-building-designs/)** > > No, really: would you want to design, build and live in an real fantasy tree house all year round? More and more people have decided to do just that and where treehouses were once novelty architecture for kids they are now (almost) mainstream... ---
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> [@aceplace57](#): > > :eek: no plumbing?? For a residential house? > > I can’t see that being allowed. They don’t want people using the back yard as a toilet. That’s a health hazard for the entire neighborhood. Actually, I think the under-10-m[sup]2[/sup]-without-plumbing exception is intended to allow the construction of things like garden sheds without too much bother… and even if you just put an outhouse nearby, that needs a septic permit and many municipalities forbid them. If it’s a farm building, not intended for human occupation, the looser Farm Building Code applies. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-smallest-cheapest-house-building-codes-will-allow/545581.md?page=2)