# What's the straight dope on J.D. Vance and couches/eyeliner? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 9, 2024, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-straight-dope-on-j-d-vance-and-couches-eyeliner/1005479 "2024-08-09T15:54:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-straight-dope-on-j-d-vance-and-couches-eyeliner/1005479/61 "2024-08-10T21:43:24Z")
> [@echoreply](#): > > As said, this is not a lie like “Obama was not born in the US” which was put out with the intent that people believe it. This is a joke that no one is expected to believe. It is not a smear campaign, it is mocking […] Nothing new about it, either. Remember [the 1989 quip about then-VP Dan Quayle remarking after a trip to Latin America that he wished he’d studied Latin harder so that he could converse with the locals?](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/quayle-quotes/) That story has passed into (urban) legend, but it was always acknowledged as a joke. What made it funny was that Quayle’s habitual verbal blunders made it seem quite plausible that he could actually have said such a thing. ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2024, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-straight-dope-on-j-d-vance-and-couches-eyeliner/1005479/62 "2024-08-11T06:49:06Z")
**Moderating** Since we have definitely moved out of FQ territory, let’s move this. While it is a political topic, I think it’s a little too humor-focused for P&E. Let’s give MPSIMS a try instead. Moving from FQ to MPSIMS. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-straight-dope-on-j-d-vance-and-couches-eyeliner/1005479/63 "2024-08-12T16:46:53Z")
A guy I know used to work in a plant with graphite. At the end of his shift he showered and put on clean clothes. Even after showering, graphite remained behind, especially around his eyes. It was creepy, he looked like he was wearing eyeliner all the time. ---
**Author:** ![mjmartin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3d9bf3/32.png) [@mjmartin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mjmartin)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-straight-dope-on-j-d-vance-and-couches-eyeliner/1005479/64 "2024-08-12T17:18:30Z")
The Republicans of course have their counter to the Vance couch story, about Walz. In typical Republican fashion, it’s really, really weird. > **[Completely false horse rumour about Tim Walz spread online by Donald Trump Jr](https://www.indy100.com/viral/donald-trump-jr-tim-walz-rumour)** > > Donald Trump Jr attempted to start a completely false, not to mention weird, rumour about Tim Walz and was quickly rebuked online. > Trump Jr was seemingly trying to spark something similar to the false made up rumour about JD Vance and couches, which... ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2024, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-straight-dope-on-j-d-vance-and-couches-eyeliner/1005479/65 "2024-08-12T23:52:03Z")
> [@mjmartin](#): > > In typical Republican fashion, it’s really, really weird. This is the funniest shit I’ve ever read. It’s completely ridiculous. It’s like a schoolyard bullying story. Trump Jr is upset that all the kids on the playground are making up stories about his pal JD, so he makes up a nasty rumor about Timmy, but no one is buying it and instead they just bully him and JD more. Only instead of happening to some poor kids, it’s happening to some of the most despicable politicians in the United States. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-straight-dope-on-j-d-vance-and-couches-eyeliner/1005479/66 "2024-08-13T00:16:28Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > If Vance did not have sex with a couch he could say so. Naw, he’s a La-Z-Boy. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-straight-dope-on-j-d-vance-and-couches-eyeliner/1005479/67 "2024-08-13T22:14:44Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > But i don’t want the Dems to fall into the hole of inventing stories and being untrustworthy that the Pubs have fallen into. I think it’d be great if Tim Walz (in his role as America’s Dad) would come out and say “Okay, everyone stop lying about your political enemies. Sure, Vance looks like he’d assault a couch. But stick to his abhorrent views on women and families.” And go on with a litany of horrendous attitudes, as well as lies trump’s been telling. The Dems get points for being decent, while contrasting with The Party Of No Decency. Oh, and keep hitting them with _WEIRD,_ Tim! . > [@mozchron](#): > > I am glad that FINALLY the Dems are fighting fire with fire. I am sick and tired of going high when they go low, and then losing. Time to get into the mud and rumble. I strongly agree, but there’s SO much fire available that’s TRUE. Just keep pointing out things that Trump and Vance have actually said and America would never stop laughing at them (and hopefully voting against them). ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-straight-dope-on-j-d-vance-and-couches-eyeliner/1005479/68 "2024-08-15T07:14:47Z")
Dump her for one who is the correct height, and properly submissive. Natch. ---
**Author:** ![Sylvanz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/fbc32d/32.png) [@Sylvanz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylvanz)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-straight-dope-on-j-d-vance-and-couches-eyeliner/1005479/69 "2024-08-15T07:30:35Z")
Weird doesn’t even touch this. Creepy as hell is more like it. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [August 15, 2024, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-straight-dope-on-j-d-vance-and-couches-eyeliner/1005479/70 "2024-08-15T12:13:20Z")
Lack of a sense of humour appears to be a Trump family characteristic. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-straight-dope-on-j-d-vance-and-couches-eyeliner/1005479/71 "2024-08-20T00:59:32Z")
[![](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53935055515_f5a341abbc_o.jpg) ](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53935055515_f5a341abbc_o.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-straight-dope-on-j-d-vance-and-couches-eyeliner/1005479/72 "2024-08-20T01:05:47Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > ## [https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53935055515\_f5a341abbc\_o.jpg](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53935055515_f5a341abbc_o.jpg) I don’t get it… ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-straight-dope-on-j-d-vance-and-couches-eyeliner/1005479/73 "2024-08-20T01:15:18Z")
The text is the opening line of Welcome to the Black Parade by mid-2000s emo band My Chemical Romance. It’s playing on how he appears to be wearing emo eyeliner. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-straight-dope-on-j-d-vance-and-couches-eyeliner/1005479/74 "2024-08-20T01:20:20Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > It’s playing on how he appears to be wearing emo eyeliner. Interestingly enough, here is a picture of the lead singer of My Chemical Romance a few years ago: [![](https://www.rollingstone.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/10103380cj.jpg) ](https://www.rollingstone.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/10103380cj.jpg) If he cut his hair and put on eyeliner, he’d look quite a bit like Vance. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-straight-dope-on-j-d-vance-and-couches-eyeliner/1005479/75 "2024-08-20T07:41:50Z")
That’s one damn good reason to refuse to cut his hair. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 20, 2024, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-straight-dope-on-j-d-vance-and-couches-eyeliner/1005479/76 "2024-08-20T07:48:17Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Interestingly enough, here is a picture of the lead singer of My Chemical Romance a few years ago Nonsense. That’s clearly Jack Black’s long-lost brother. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2024, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-straight-dope-on-j-d-vance-and-couches-eyeliner/1005479/77 "2024-08-21T20:17:38Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Nonsense. That’s clearly Jack Black’s long-lost brother. Who, Jack White? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-straight-dope-on-j-d-vance-and-couches-eyeliner/1005479.md?page=3)