# What's the trick to Persian girls?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [April 25, 2007, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-trick-to-persian-girls/401596 "2007-04-25T15:24:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![scotandrsn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a4c791/32.png) [@scotandrsn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scotandrsn)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2007, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-trick-to-persian-girls/401596/21 "2007-04-25T18:16:32Z")

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[QUOTE=Waverly]  
…Unless she is a rug or a cat, by the way, Persian is an unusual way to describe her unless you have only spoken to her in Parsi and have no idea whatsoever which modern country she hails from.  
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Obviously your experience with this population is limited if you have not once realized there is a huge segment of it that does not wish to be associated with modern connotations of Iran, for a variety of reasons.

I teach many students with roots in that country, and if I ever hear ethnicity discussed among my students (it’s a very cosmopolitan school, so it comes up fairly regularly), they invariably describe themselves as Persian.

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**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2007, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-trick-to-persian-girls/401596/22 "2007-04-25T18:18:04Z")

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[QUOTE=Waverly]  
Unless she is a rug or a cat, by the way, Persian is an unusual way to describe her unless you have only spoken to her in Parsi and have no idea whatsoever which modern country she hails from.  
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This isn’t the first time I’ve noticed the usage of Persian in lieu of say, Iranian-American. Is there something to this observation? I’m wondering if people think it’s cooler to say “I’m Persian” rather drawing attention to their country of origin.

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**Author:** ![Waverly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/57b2e6/32.png) [@Waverly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waverly)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2007, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-trick-to-persian-girls/401596/23 "2007-04-25T18:22:39Z")

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[QUOTE=scotandrsn]  
Obviously your experience with this population is limited if you have not once realized there is a huge segment of it that does not wish to be associated with modern connotations of Iran, for a variety of reasons.  
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Really, I didn’t think of that. :smack: Thanks. Thanks so much for schooling me on this cultural nuance.

Now that you have, would you like to know what I think? Hmm?

Tough. I don’t like to be associated with many of the things American, culturally or politically, as of late. But it isn’t an option to pretend I’m something else.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2007, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-trick-to-persian-girls/401596/24 "2007-04-25T18:34:34Z")

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Can’t really help you. Every Iranian girl I know dislikes Iranian guys. And if this person’s an avowed atheist, chances are she’s not a slave to family tradition. This an engaged girl problem, not a Persian girl problem.

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**Author:** ![Grey\_area](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Grey\_area](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey_area)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2007, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-trick-to-persian-girls/401596/25 "2007-04-25T18:35:24Z")

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I’m somewhat surprised how supportive everyone is of someone trying to “liberate that ass” of someone who’s engaged, regardless of cultural background or how the OP perceives that relationship.

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**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2007, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-trick-to-persian-girls/401596/26 "2007-04-25T18:43:50Z")

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[QUOTE=r4nd0mNumb3rs]  
I’m somewhat surprised how supportive everyone is of someone trying to “liberate that ass” of someone who’s engaged, regardless of cultural background or how the OP perceives that relationship.  
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The OP said she gave the ring back. It sounds like she doesn’t want to be in the engagement.

I suspect there is no chance for a relationship; according to the OP there has been plenty of oppurtunity, and if she really wanted to move out of the failed engagement and move towards the OP, she would have.

Maybe the attitude embodied in the ‘liberate that ass’ phrasing is part of the roadblock for the OP.

Or maybe as in Post #4, she’s just not that into the OP.

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**Author:** ![pinkfreud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pinkfreud/32/17603_2.png) [@pinkfreud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pinkfreud)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2007, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-trick-to-persian-girls/401596/27 "2007-04-25T18:48:37Z")

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When my husband was in college, he dated a Persian girl. It wasn’t a big romance, but he enjoyed going out with her, and they remained friends for many years. The secret to his success: he learned a little bit of Farsi.

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**Author:** ![Grey\_area](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Grey\_area](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey_area)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2007, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-trick-to-persian-girls/401596/28 "2007-04-25T18:52:33Z")

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[QUOTE=Sunspace]  
The OP said she gave the ring back. It sounds like she doesn’t want to be in the engagement.  
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He said she gave the ring back _at least once_. Maybe the OP can clear this up, but I was under the impression they are still engaged but have had some rough patches. I don’t expect that anyone trying to pursue someone already in a relationship is going to say that their relationship is doing well. How else would he be ‘liberating’ her?

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2007, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-trick-to-persian-girls/401596/29 "2007-04-25T18:55:31Z")

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I know the trick to Persian girls.

I will trade that info for the trick to any of the following girls.

French Girls  
English Girls,  
New York City Girls, (broken down by borough if necessary)  
Girls who use the name Anaamika on message boards

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**Author:** ![Grossbottom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ba8739/32.png) [@Grossbottom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grossbottom)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2007, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-trick-to-persian-girls/401596/30 "2007-04-25T18:57:03Z")

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[QUOTE=Rasa]  
Have you, I dunno… asked her out? Made your intentions plain?  
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No, we hang out randomly because she’s engaged, and she knows I’m interested. We also do business on occasion.

[QUOTE=r4nd0mNumb3rs]  
What makes you so sure that her ethnicity has anything to do with all this?  
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It’s just a vibe, I dunno. I’ve gotten it before but never from a woman I wanted quite this badly. It’s truly bumming me out.

[QUOTE=OneCentStamp]  
To the OP: in my (admittedly limited) experience with Iranian families, they’ve struck me as being incredibly insular and just a tad racist. All the older (my parents’ age) Persians I’ve known have loudly despised Arabs, for example - maybe just because they’re tired of being confused for them. Shila, my female Persian friend in high school, wasn’t overtly racist, or didn’t think of herself as such, but would never have considered marrying a non-Persian. Her family would have flipped.

Any chance that some of that is going on?  
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Totally. She says she’d never date an Arab and her fiance is, properly speaking, Syrian rather than Persian. Apparently her mother doesn’t approve of him on that basis alone.

[QUOTE=Waverly]  
Why would you think there is a secret unique to an ethnicity based on your anecdotal, and limitted, experience with a sample size of one? Unless she is a rug or a cat, by the way, Persian is an unusual way to describe her unless  
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On preview, nevermind.

[QUOTE=Quartz]  
Persians/Iranians are notorious for not marrying outside their ethnicity. Fool around, sure. But marry, no way, unless they’re prepared to cut off all ties with their families.  
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I know, everyone keeps saying this! But I know Persian guys who hunt blondes for marriage like crazy, and I’m just trying to pull some sort of gender exchange program here. Do the guys that score blondes get thrown off the island or something?

[QUOTE=Quartz]  
Is she a Zoroastran? I believe they only marry inside their religion.  
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No idea, but I hadn’t really thought about that angle. I guess there’s a chance she could be, it has never come up but I suppose I should check. I’ll drop Freddie Mercury’s name next time we grab a coffee.

[QUOTE=anu-la1979]  
She doesn’t consider you marriage material but she enjoys the attention. Don’t hang around-she’s waiting for a rich persian guy who will marry her.  
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That’s the sound of my withered heart breaking. Maybe I can ramp up the bling? Buy more stuff with logos? Is there anyway to compensate for being wonderbread? ☹

[QUOTE=Sunspace]  
Maybe the attitude embodied in the ‘liberate that ass’ phrasing is part of the roadblock for the OP.  
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Ok, yeah, I think it’s safe to say the OP doesn’t actually say things like that to actual real live girls. And in truth, I’ve known her long enough and am comfortable enough with her that if I did say it, she’d think it was funny in an inept playa kind of way. So for purposes of this discussion, let’s assume I’ve passed Talking to Girls 101.

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**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2007, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-trick-to-persian-girls/401596/31 "2007-04-25T18:57:37Z")

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[QUOTE=Zebra]  
I know the trick to Persian girls.

I will trade that info for the trick to any of the following girls.

French Girls  
English Girls,  
New York City Girls, (broken down by borough if necessary)  
Girls who use the name Anaamika on message boards  
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Sure, here: TAG body spray. Lots of it.

What can I say? I’m not a real skeptical mind.

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**Author:** ![Dante](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dante/32/9673_2.png) [@Dante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dante)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2007, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-trick-to-persian-girls/401596/32 "2007-04-25T19:13:56Z")

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Try to feign a higher level of interest in her. You know, pretend she’s a real person, that sort of thing. Remember, nothing gets on woman on her back with her legs behind her ears faster than if you can fool her into thinking you actually respect her as a person.

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**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2007, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-trick-to-persian-girls/401596/33 "2007-04-25T19:18:35Z")

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Wow, this thread just gets more and more charming every time I check it.

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**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2007, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-trick-to-persian-girls/401596/34 "2007-04-25T19:21:19Z")

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[QUOTE=Dante]  
Remember, nothing gets on woman on her back with her legs behind her ears faster than if you can fool her into thinking you actually respect her as a person.  
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Nothing, with the possible exception of yoga lessons.

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**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2007, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-trick-to-persian-girls/401596/35 "2007-04-25T19:23:10Z")

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[QUOTE=Dante]  
Try to feign a higher level of interest in her. You know, pretend she’s a real person, that sort of thing. Remember, nothing gets on woman on her back with her legs behind her ears faster than if you can fool her into thinking you actually respect her as a person.  
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And with that, I’m checking out of this thread. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Capa84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8edcca/32.png) [@Capa84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capa84)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2007, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-trick-to-persian-girls/401596/36 "2007-04-25T19:32:00Z")

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I don’t know but if you all figure it out, PM me with it. I’m pretty sure I was put on this earth to marry Shaghayegh (Iranian pop star who now lives in LA, as Claudia Lynx)

> **[Claudia Lynx (claudialynx) on Myspace](https://myspace.com/claudialynx)**
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> Claudia Lynx (claudialynx)'s profile on Myspace, the place where people come to connect, discover, and share.

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**Author:** ![Grossbottom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ba8739/32.png) [@Grossbottom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grossbottom)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2007, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-trick-to-persian-girls/401596/37 "2007-04-25T19:33:23Z")

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[QUOTE=Dante]  
Remember, nothing gets on woman on her back with her legs behind her ears faster than if you can fool her into thinking you actually respect her as a person.  
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But I only wanted people with relevant experience to respond. You’d have to have been with a woman to know any of that.

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**Author:** ![Dante](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dante/32/9673_2.png) [@Dante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dante)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2007, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-trick-to-persian-girls/401596/38 "2007-04-25T19:35:03Z")

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I was debating putting a rolleyes at the end of my post. I guess I should have.

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**Author:** ![liberty3701](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3d9bf3/32.png) [@liberty3701](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/liberty3701)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2007, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-trick-to-persian-girls/401596/39 "2007-04-25T19:35:06Z")

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[QUOTE=Grossbottom]  
Ok, yeah, I think it’s safe to say the OP doesn’t actually say things like that to actual real live girls. And in truth, I’ve known her long enough and am comfortable enough with her that if I did say it, she’d think it was funny in an inept playa kind of way. So for purposes of this discussion, let’s assume I’ve passed Talking to Girls 101.  
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It’s not about _talking to_ her. It’s about thinking of her, referring to her like she was a human being and not a piece of ass.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2007, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-trick-to-persian-girls/401596/40 "2007-04-25T19:49:11Z")

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[QUOTE=Grossbottom]  
Ok, yeah, I think it’s safe to say the OP doesn’t actually say things like that to actual real live girls.  
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Sorry, you’re SOL. Persian girls have psychic powers. That’s what sets them apart; they’re kinda unique that way. She knows you just want to work her sweet Farsi meat-garden with your man-plough, and she’s having fun playing with you. On the other hand, if you can fill your mind with thoughts of her body draped in endless chains of gold finery, you might be able to distract her, and thus have a shot at spearing that bitch. Give it a try and report back.

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