# What's the usual level of difficulty in solving a Scooby Doo mystery? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 15, 2007, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-usual-level-of-difficulty-in-solving-a-scooby-doo-mystery/392339 "2007-02-15T14:14:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-usual-level-of-difficulty-in-solving-a-scooby-doo-mystery/392339/21 "2007-02-16T12:31:05Z")
[QUOTE=muldoonthief] Then how come you wound up tied up in a bag half the time? [/QUOTE] Zoinks! :eek: ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-usual-level-of-difficulty-in-solving-a-scooby-doo-mystery/392339/22 "2007-02-16T15:13:20Z")
> [@](#): > > For some reason, they broke with that august and venerable tradition when they made the movie. Actualy, they broke with it well before the movie. Scooby-Doo animated “Movies” made for TV that have been made in the last decade have switched over to real supernatural menaces. for example – **Scooby Doo on Zombie Island** : [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0166792/](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0166792/) **Scooby Doo and the Witch’s Ghost** : [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0196931/](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0196931/) This pissed off one of the smal groups affiliated with CSICOP (now CSI), who used to use Scooby as a kinda mascot, because the supernatural things turned out to havwe mundane explanatioons, becausde now they don’t, and they thought it was sending the wrong message to kids. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-usual-level-of-difficulty-in-solving-a-scooby-doo-mystery/392339/23 "2007-02-16T15:21:54Z")
[QUOTE=CalMeacham] real supernatural [/QUOTE] Like, ironic. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-usual-level-of-difficulty-in-solving-a-scooby-doo-mystery/392339/24 "2007-02-16T15:45:29Z")
[QUOTE=CalMeacham] Actualy, they broke with it well before the movie. Scooby-Doo animated “Movies” made for TV that have been made in the last decade have switched over to real supernatural menaces. for example – **Scooby Doo on Zombie Island** : [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0166792/](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0166792/) **Scooby Doo and the Witch’s Ghost** : [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0196931/](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0196931/) [/QUOTE] I wish I’d mentioned something about that. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-usual-level-of-difficulty-in-solving-a-scooby-doo-mystery/392339/25 "2007-02-16T15:52:38Z")
This seems a good place to enlighten people as to the true origins of the Scooby Doo mythos. [![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfq2P7vkfa8) ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-usual-level-of-difficulty-in-solving-a-scooby-doo-mystery/392339/26 "2007-02-16T15:56:25Z")
[QUOTE=muldoonthief] Then how come you wound up tied up in a bag half the time? [/QUOTE] You ever think she might be into it? :eek: ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-usual-level-of-difficulty-in-solving-a-scooby-doo-mystery/392339/27 "2007-02-16T16:43:26Z")
> [@](#): > > I wish I’d mentioned something about that. …or at least put it in context. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-usual-level-of-difficulty-in-solving-a-scooby-doo-mystery/392339/28 "2007-02-16T16:52:34Z")
[QUOTE=don’t ask] You do realise these are not true crime documentaries? [/QUOTE] Cite? ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-usual-level-of-difficulty-in-solving-a-scooby-doo-mystery/392339/29 "2007-02-16T17:25:20Z")
What I found interesting was they apparently are tying in Ben-10 to the scooby folks… seems ben’s uncle is somehow related to Fred… (yeah, i’m 40, and I like cartoons… that’s ok by me) ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2007, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-usual-level-of-difficulty-in-solving-a-scooby-doo-mystery/392339/30 "2007-02-16T17:32:15Z")
[QUOTE=Mangetout] This seems a good place to enlighten people as to the true origins of the Scooby Doo mythos. ![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/sfq2P7vkfa8/maxresdefault.jpg)https://www.youtube.com/embed/sfq2P7vkfa8?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque [/QUOTE] That’s bloody brilliant! I was expecting some explanation of the Dobie Gillis connection- Fred- Milton Armitage (Warren Beatty), Daphne- Thalia Menninger (Tuesday Weld), Velma- Zelda Gilroy (Sheila James Kuehl) Shaggy- Maynard G. Krebs (Bob Denver, of course). ---
**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2009, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-usual-level-of-difficulty-in-solving-a-scooby-doo-mystery/392339/31 "2009-02-07T06:09:32Z")
> [@MonkeyMule](#): > > BTW did you see when the Scooby gang showed up on the Venture Brothers? Man watching a cracked out shaggy get pimp slaped by a midly insane Fred was just awesome. Also, his pimping of daphine and Velma’s lesbianism were nice touches as well. Is this a lame joke or ar you just consistently contrary? Sounds to me that The Venture Brothers were concoted simply to turn things around (“War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength.”) I hope their production company has a good lawyer in case Hanna-Barbera decides to sue. ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2009, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-usual-level-of-difficulty-in-solving-a-scooby-doo-mystery/392339/32 "2009-02-07T06:21:17Z")
> [@simster](#): > > What I found interesting was they apparently are tying in Ben-10 to the scooby folks… seems ben’s uncle is somehow related to Fred… > > (yeah, i’m 40, and I like cartoons… that’s ok by me) Wait what? You’re kidding, right? (haven’t had a chance to watch Alien Force since mid season 1… I need to find a way to catch up somehow) ---
**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2009, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-usual-level-of-difficulty-in-solving-a-scooby-doo-mystery/392339/33 "2009-02-07T06:34:04Z")
> [@dougie\_monty](#): > > Is this a lame joke or ar you just consistently contrary? > Sounds to me that The Venture Brothers were concoted simply to turn things around (“War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength.”) > I hope their production company has a good lawyer in case Hanna-Barbera decides to sue. I’m sure they do, since they’re owned by Time Warner. That said, trying to sue them for copyright infringement or whatever would be akin to Coca-Cola wanting to sue Coke Zero for taste infringement, since Hanna-Barbera is a Time Warner company (like pretty much everything else on TV) In the last decade or so, Cartoon Network has shown quite a few shows based on the concept of making fun of older cartoons. For an even more blatant example of this, check out the excellent show Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law. The first episode features a custody battle between Race Bannon and Dr. Benton Quest over Johnny and Hadji. Another episode has Apache Chief suing a coffee shop because, after spilling scalding coffee in his lap, he is no longer able to… be large.:eek: ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2009, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-usual-level-of-difficulty-in-solving-a-scooby-doo-mystery/392339/34 "2009-02-07T06:36:36Z")
> [@Raguleader](#): > > I’m sure they do, since they’re owned by Time Warner. > > That said, trying to sue them for copyright infringement or whatever would be akin to Coca-Cola wanting to sue Coke Zero for taste infringement, since Hanna-Barbera is a Time Warner company (like pretty much everything else on TV) > > In the last decade or so, Cartoon Network has shown quite a few shows based on the concept of making fun of older cartoons. For an even more blatant example of this, check out the excellent show Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law. The first episode features a custody battle between Race Bannon and Dr. Benton Quest over Johnny and Hadji. Another episode has Apache Chief suing a coffee shop because, after spilling scalding coffee in his lap, he is no longer able to… be large.:eek: And the… Scooby Doo(!) Episode where Shaggy and Scooby are taken to court for being stoned out of their minds? ---
**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2009, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-usual-level-of-difficulty-in-solving-a-scooby-doo-mystery/392339/35 "2009-02-07T06:53:42Z")
> [@Jragon](#): > > And the… Scooby Doo(!) Episode where Shaggy and Scooby are taken to court for being stoned out of their minds? I thought they weren’t actually stoned? “You mean they’re not…” “No, sir. They’re just stupid.”😃 Granted, I never saw that whole episode, so maybe they were stoned after all. Like the episode where Barney Rubble was the Godfather. ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2009, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-usual-level-of-difficulty-in-solving-a-scooby-doo-mystery/392339/36 "2009-02-07T06:55:59Z")
> [@Raguleader](#): > > I thought they weren’t actually stoned? > > “You mean they’re not…” > > “No, sir. They’re just stupid.”😃 > > Granted, I never saw that whole episode, so maybe they were stoned after all. Like the episode where Barney Rubble was the Godfather. They were taken to court for being so, they actually weren’t, iirc. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2009, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-usual-level-of-difficulty-in-solving-a-scooby-doo-mystery/392339/37 "2009-02-07T07:42:02Z")
> [@CalMeacham](#): > > Actualy, they broke with it well before the movie. Scooby-Doo animated “Movies” made for TV that have been made in the last decade have switched over to real supernatural menaces. And, has been pointed out, certain seasons of the cartoon in the mid to late '80’s. Coincidentally (?), all featured Scrappy Doo in some way, I believe. ETA: Speaking of supernatural elements, I didn’t even realize how much of a zombie this thread was 'til I saw Otto’s post! Zoinks! ---
**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2009, 9:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-usual-level-of-difficulty-in-solving-a-scooby-doo-mystery/392339/38 "2009-02-07T09:17:36Z")
When they brought in Scrappy, did they get rid of Fred, Daphne and Velma permanently, or just on the one or two episodes I saw? It’s a pretty devastating admission, that the real brains of the outfit was Shaggy all along… ---
**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2009, 12:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-usual-level-of-difficulty-in-solving-a-scooby-doo-mystery/392339/39 "2009-02-07T12:38:48Z")
> [@Krokodil](#): > > When they brought in Scrappy, did they get rid of Fred, Daphne and Velma permanently, or just on the one or two episodes I saw? It’s a pretty devastating admission, that the real brains of the outfit was Shaggy all along… At first, the entire gang was a part of the cast alongside Scrappy. Eventually, the cast was downsized to feature only Scooby, Scrappy, Shaggy, and Daphne. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGrenze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@KarlGrenze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGrenze)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2009, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-usual-level-of-difficulty-in-solving-a-scooby-doo-mystery/392339/40 "2009-02-07T13:35:16Z")
Wasn’t Daphne substituted in some episodes (or accompanied by) one of Scooby’s cousins? I forget his name, but it was a gray country type Great Dane? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-usual-level-of-difficulty-in-solving-a-scooby-doo-mystery/392339.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whats-the-usual-level-of-difficulty-in-solving-a-scooby-doo-mystery/392339.md?page=3)